Re: [PEDA] laptops (again), Nvidia graphics, OS recommendations

2001-12-13 Thread Tony Karavidas
I have a Sony G500 (might be the same as yours) and it looks great at all resolutions. It might be your card setup. I can adjust a whole slew of parameter for each resolution. Tony -Original Message- From: Robison Michael R CNIN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December

Re: [PEDA] Test #2, Is this message getting through?

2001-12-13 Thread Rene Tschaggelar
You should consider another newsreader. Strange ones such as OE may hide your own posts. Rene Brian Guralnick wrote: Test #2, Is this message getting through? My last 3 posts are missing. Brian Guralnick * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

[PEDA] Tasking offer

2001-12-13 Thread Rene Tschaggelar
I got this Tasking offer, but wasn't able to log in. My protel representative promised to solve the problem, but I didn't hear anything since. Is it just me ? Rene -- Ing. Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a

[PEDA] Antwort: Altera and other

2001-12-13 Thread ga
You are invited to have a look at them under www.nateurope.com. By the way, do you have a name, intellasys? Gisbert intellasys

[PEDA] Antwort: Test #2, Is this message getting through?

2001-12-13 Thread ga
It sure does, Brian. :-) Gisbert Brian Guralnick

Re: [PEDA] was Licence's now gone public

2001-12-13 Thread Simon Peacock
[large snip] I must admit that protels action seems to follow a trend I watched on money line (CNN)... what you do is look for shares in a software company which are undervauled in some way.. either because their product is under priced or they have a money winner but don't realise it yet (under

Re: [PEDA] Tasking offer

2001-12-13 Thread Emanuel Zimmermann
I logged in successfully the first day it was announced on the net. Maybe that they cancelled the service after that because I ordered three licences ;-)! Emanuel Rene Tschaggelar wrote: I got this Tasking offer, but wasn't able to log in. My protel representative promised to solve the

[PEDA] Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for download

2001-12-13 Thread HxEngr
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[PEDA] Find and delete Tracks without net

2001-12-13 Thread Waldemar Kulajew
Hello out there, I am currently working on a design based on an older one. There are a lot of parts in the Schematic that should disappear. After deleting them in the Schematic I updatet the PCB and found, naturely, a lot of tracks with no Net. Now here is my Problem: trying to

Re: [PEDA] Keepouts DRC

2001-12-13 Thread Sean James
To add to Brad's note- I use keepouts to prevent polygon planes from pouring in certain areas of my board. I don't want poylgons under smt resistors, etc. I want to be able to control where the polys go. the only way is with keepouts on specific layers, and in certain areas. It's a nuisance to

Re: [PEDA] Add Colour to Nets

2001-12-13 Thread Sean James
This feature has helped me in seperating important nets from the Gordian Knot of the remaining nets. Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc. 102 Grove Street Worcester, MA 01605 (TEL) 508.754.4858 x33 (FAX) 413.541.6170 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel

Re: [PEDA] Find and delete Tracks without net

2001-12-13 Thread Matthias . Trebeck
Hi Waldemar, I tried this Edit Select Net clicking on a No-Net-Track Clear ...and oops, all tracks and vias with No Net diappeared in my PCB. I manually changed them from different nets to No Net before, just as a test. I hope this will fit for you Mit freundlichen Grüßen Matthias

Re: [PEDA] Find and delete Tracks without net

2001-12-13 Thread Andy Lintz
This is what I did to delete old tracks from components that had been deleted: 1. Design, Netlist Manager, Menu, Update Free Primitives from Connected copper (this sets the tracks to No Net, but it doesn't completely forget about the old net so a global edit won't work) 2. Save the pcb file and

Re: [PEDA] Tasking offer

2001-12-13 Thread Richard Sumner
I successfully logged in. I needed the serial number, a 9 digit number that I had never needed before. It was on the shipping announcement that was faxed to me when I upgraded to 99se. It took me a while to find that piece of paper! Richard At 09:45 AM 12/13/2001 Thursday +0100, you wrote: I

Re: [PEDA] Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for download

2001-12-13 Thread Emanuel Zimmermann
Thanks Steve, you pointed me to a place of hope for resolving the current problems I have in getting working the SI tool - I thought! I downloaded and installed the manual and had a quick look to it. Up to now I have the impression that they try to do something like to teach walking to Carl

[PEDA] Antwort: Find and delete Tracks without net

2001-12-13 Thread ga
Hallo Waldemar, if it still is possible to go back one step to the PCB with the components to be deleted, I would suggest that you do so. Then, in PCB editor, select Tools/Unroute/Components and unroute the components you want to be deleted. Then do the update PCB from Schematic. There should

[PEDA] AW: Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for do wnload

2001-12-13 Thread Schmitt Michael
Getting the SI tools running is still the same mess as getting the PLD Stuff running. The documentation from Protel is more than bad. we gave up getting PLD running and now use external Software. Both PLD and SI look to me as they were nothing more than quick-hacks for only one reason, we must

Re: [PEDA] AW: Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for do wnload

2001-12-13 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I have not yet tried the SIM in 99SE, but I do think it is an important feature of Protel. So it better darn well work, and better documentation is needed. I quickly browsed the manual, but it didn't look too helpful where SIM is concerned. Perhaps a new term is needed: nullware. Software so

Re: [PEDA] Find and delete Tracks without net

2001-12-13 Thread Waldemar Kulajew
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi Waldemar, I tried this Edit Select Net clicking on a No-Net-Track Clear and oops, all tracks and vias with No Net diappeared in my PCB. I manually changed them from different nets to No Net before, just as a test. I hope this will fit for you

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Ted Tontis
I recently sent an e-mail to Altium regarding the Phoenix release, asking if it would support HDI designs. If you really want to laugh take a look at the response they gave me in regards to why ATS was started. Protel has made this decision based on request from our current customers. Our

Re: [PEDA] AW: Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available fo r do wnload

2001-12-13 Thread Upton Charles R CNIN
Michael, I agree 100% with your views on this. It is good for SCH PCB, but the other tools, SIM PLD are poorly documented and basically of zero value. Just good marketing/brochure fluff. If they want to price this software like a true engineering CAD package, with COMPLETE PLD and SIM

Re: [PEDA] Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for do wnload

2001-12-13 Thread Ted Tontis

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Back, Norb

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Frank Gilley
Jon, Your experience with Protel support matches mine almost exactly, minus the 2 month late report. I do wonder how many others have had the same experience? Now, I would like to point out that all of us who post regularly to this list are public figures now, and might receive preferential

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Matt Pobursky
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:02:23 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:     Any comments on the level of support others have gotten? I've called once and emailed a few times. The call was to inquire whether Protel could do something I could do in Orcad or a   similar workaround in

Re: [PEDA] Tasking offer

2001-12-13 Thread Matt Pobursky
I was able to log in and sign up with no trouble. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:45:27 +0100, Rene Tschaggelar wrote: I got this Tasking offer, but wasn't able to log in. My protel representative promised to solve the problem, but I didn't hear anything since.

Re: [PEDA] How to change Netlist lines back to solid lines?

2001-12-13 Thread lloyd . good
While I have set this parameter, it seems that new netlist loading will still see the new connections use a default grey color which is not the color I have set. Has anyone else seen this? Possibly a bug? -Original Message- From: Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,

Re: [PEDA] Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for do wnload

2001-12-13 Thread Max Henzi

Re: [PEDA] Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for do wnload

2001-12-13 Thread Stephen Casey
Hello All, Are all people that have downloaded the training manual ATS members? I cannot access it, which is a shame (maybe)! Thanks for your time. Steve. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit:

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Kathy Quinlan
Your experience with Protel support matches mine almost exactly, minus the 2 month late report. I do wonder how many others have had the same experience? Now, I would like to point out that all of us who post regularly to this list are public figures now, and might receive preferential

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread lloyd . good
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:02:23 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:     Any comments on the level of support others have gotten? I've not called for any tech support since Protel moved from California to Utah. The last time I spoke to someone at Protel, Sam Cox and Vinh Ho were

[PEDA] ATS and non-US users

2001-12-13 Thread Stephen Casey
Hello again, I cannot login as an ATS member. P99SE was purchased at the beginning of October (but that is in dispute at the moment), although the information states that every license holder has limited ATS membership. My question is: Are there any members of this list from outside the US that

Re: [PEDA] Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for do wnload

2001-12-13 Thread HxEngr

[PEDA] .TXT File generation

2001-12-13 Thread Tim Fifield
My production facility (not pcb house) is asking for the following: X/Y coordinates of components .TXT file X/Y coordinates of test points/pads in .TXT file Is it possible to generate those files in P99SE? If so, how? Tim * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a

Re: [PEDA] Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for do wnload

2001-12-13 Thread Brad Velander
Hi all. This is all very cute. The email says ATS and 99SE customers, the website says ATS only. I didn't get the original email at all (this is becoming too usual even though I have confirmed that Protel has all my contact info for the product licenses owned by our company).

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Mark E Witherite

Re: [PEDA] How to change Netlist lines back to solid lines?

2001-12-13 Thread Shuping Lew
My problem is when I turn on the netlist connection, all the net lines come up as broken lines instead of solid lines regardless what color I am using. I can not find any place to change netlist to different line style. It seems only netlist color can be changed but not the line style in

Re: [PEDA] Keepouts DRC

2001-12-13 Thread Brad Velander
Dwight, the holes must overlap the outline otherwise the holes do not result in any additional opening to allow the square corners into the inner radiused corners of the board outline. This is a square peg trying to fit into a round (radiused) hole issue. As for Dennis' comment,

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Yeah, I've talked to Vinh Ho in times past, too. He was helpful. See what happens when you get too good at tech support? You become a former employee. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA

[PEDA] Trace resistance

2001-12-13 Thread Gaetan Fournier
Does anybody knows a good link or freeware for DC resistive calculation in function with the thickness, width and length of a PCB track. I already know about trace with calculator http://www.aracnet.com/cgi-usr/gpatrick/trace.pl but this is not exactly what I'm looking for, current and

Re: [PEDA] Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for do wnload

2001-12-13 Thread Max Henzi
Hi Steve, Here is the address: http://www.protel.com/etech/learningguides.htm Best regards, Max -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 8:40 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual

Re: [PEDA] .TXT File generation

2001-12-13 Thread lloyd . good
Tim, Under the CAM outputs, you have choices to generate gerbers, NC Drill, Pik and Place etc. This the the section that you wish to use. Just choose to generate Pick and Place which gives you two files a *.txt and a *.csv file of the X/Y co-ordinates for the components. Also choose to generate a

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Frank Gilley
At 12:08 PM 12/13/2001 -0600, Mark wrote: Hi Group, I just got off the phone with Altium's USA sales rep. And she was able to help me down load the training manual. It seems that the company name has to be (in my case) spelt exactly the way it was entered into the system. Marcella

Re: [PEDA] Signal Analysis ?

2001-12-13 Thread Gordon Price
Bill, I do high speed DSP designs and we have used 99SE recently for 5 different 12 layer dual TMS320C6711 designs with PC100 memory. I was forced to use POST MORTEM analysis to see if the route could possibly work in the first place. I wrote a C program that directly imported the Protel

Re: [PEDA] Trace resistance

2001-12-13 Thread Fabian Hartery
www.ultracad.com Cheers. Fabian Hartery Research Engineer Guigne International Limited Paradise, Newfoundland A1L1C1 tel: 709-895-3819 fax: 709-895-3822 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.guigne.com -Original Message- From: Gaetan Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,

Re: [PEDA] Trace resistance

2001-12-13 Thread Steve Smith
Download pcbtemp.exe from www.ultracad.com. It has what resistance calculations built in. Steve Smith Product Engineer Staco Energy Products Co. Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com -Original Message- From: Gaetan Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:19

Re: [PEDA] .TXT File generation

2001-12-13 Thread Tim Fifield
Lloyd, That works great! What's the difference between Mid XY, Ref XY, and Pad XY? Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:51 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] .TXT File generation Tim, Under the CAM

Re: [PEDA] Trace resistance

2001-12-13 Thread Konrad Iten, C.I.D.+
Try http://www.hytekservices.com/downloads.htm There is a current calculator. It'll calculate the resitance in Ohms. Konrad - Original Message - From: Gaetan Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:19 AM Subject: [PEDA]

Re: [PEDA] Trace resistance

2001-12-13 Thread Brad Velander
Gaetan, try this calculator. It does the trace temp rise but also has a section at the bottom for trace resistance and voltage drop at specific currents. www.ultracad.com/pcbtemp.zip Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. #300 - 4401 Still Creek Drive,

Re: [PEDA] Find and delete Tracks without net

2001-12-13 Thread Steve Baldwin
thanks for the answer, but Edit Select Net clicking on a No-Net-Track got no effekts on my Design, huh!?! It works well when I choose an other net. Andys way helped me to select the tracks, I had to check same layer to prevent that Keepouts and Mech where chousen. Gisbert, thanks

Re: [PEDA] .TXT File generation

2001-12-13 Thread Tony Karavidas
Mid is the geometric center of the object. Who knows exactly how they compute it and what they take into account IIRC, this is what I've used in the past. I believe the Ref if the Reference point assigned when the component was built in the library editor. Pad? Dunno. Maybe this uses Pad1

Re: [PEDA] How to change Netlist lines back to solid lines?

2001-12-13 Thread Casey Vanderweide
Do you have any pre routed nets on your board when loading in your netlist? It might be that you're looking at partially routed nets which causes the ratsnest line to turn into a dashed line. Regards, Casey Vanderweide. - Original Message - From: Shuping Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [PEDA] .TXT File generation

2001-12-13 Thread Samuel Cox \Sam\
Hello,,, Mid is the geometric center of the spans of all of the pins in a component.. (not the body outline.) Ref is the origin of the component when the component was created in the library.. Pad is Pad1 of the component... Most of the time the component is and I believe should be built

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:37 AM 12/13/01 -0600, Frank Gilley wrote: Now, I would like to point out that all of us who post regularly to this list are public figures now, and might receive preferential treatment simply to keep stuff like this off this board. I don't know if this is happening, but it sure isn't

Re: [PEDA] .TXT File generation

2001-12-13 Thread Tim Fifield
Thanks Tony, but I'm too busy to test the Pad XY theory right now. (To Group) However, my next problem is that I have a 170 test points on the bottom of my pcb that don't have the testpoint box checked and I can't seem to globally edit to change them all so I can generate a testpoint report. Any

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I haven't called Protel for support, ever, so I don't have experience with that. I was introduced to this list from the beginning. I've called many times with issues around license resales, etc. My impression has been that most of the people I talked with did not know who I was. (When Protel

Re: [PEDA] .TXT File generation

2001-12-13 Thread lloyd . good
Tim, Unfortunately the testpoint feature is one that does not fall under global edit control. Much to my dismay! You might try to define what a test point is, provided they all share the same characteristics. This can be done in the Design-Rules-Manufacturing tab menu. Then you might have some

Re: [PEDA] Keepouts DRC

2001-12-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:38 AM 12/13/01 -0800, Brad Velander wrote: Dwight, the holes must overlap the outline otherwise the holes do not result in any additional opening to allow the square corners into the inner radiused corners of the board outline. This is a square peg trying to fit into a round

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:19 AM 12/14/01 +0800, Kathy Quinlan wrote: Since then I have had 3 phone calls to find out when I wanted to shift my 98 license to 99SE (I am refusing till they bring a *nix version out) I wouldn't wait. Right now upgrade from 98 to 99SE is $1595 *and it includes ATS, i.e., the next

Re: [PEDA] .TXT File generation

2001-12-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:50 PM 12/13/01 -0400, Tim Fifield wrote: Lloyd, That works great! What's the difference between Mid XY, Ref XY, and Pad XY? Mid is the component centroid. It may only be the centroid of the extent of the pads or it may include outline, I think it is the former. Ref is the location of

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Frank Gilley
If subscribers to this list were to receive preferential treatment, it would most certainly be invisible. The purpose of which would be to insure that posters here would have no reason to complain about tech support on a public forum. In a highly organized department this would typically

Re: [PEDA] How to change Netlist lines back to solid lines?

2001-12-13 Thread Shuping Lew
No, The board is placed but not rounted yet. But I did load the netlist into the PCB few times. At first the netlist lines were solid. But now they are hidden lines. Not sure when did that happen because I turned them off for placement till now. -Original Message- From: Casey

Re: [PEDA] .TXT File generation

2001-12-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:21 PM 12/13/01 -0800, Samuel Cox \Sam\ wrote: Most of the time the component is and I believe should be built with the origin (Ref) at the center of PIN 1 so that when placement is performed you have the best chance to align all or the most number of pins to a testable /routing grid..

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Brian Guralnick
Oddly enough, the first time I called for Protel support back with P98, the first thing they told me to do was join this list. Q, Does Protel send my support dollars to maintain this group then? Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Frank Gilley
At 03:34 PM 12/13/2001 -0500, Abdulrahman Lomax wrote: Right now upgrade from 98 to 99SE is $1595 *and it includes ATS, i.e., the next release should be free. The price goes back up Jan 1 to $1995, and there are indications that it will go up again when Phoenix is released. Do you know for a

Re: [PEDA] Keepouts DRC

2001-12-13 Thread Brad Velander
But abd ul-Rahman, do you want to edit approx. 200+ lines and curves making up the board outline to adjust them to some other offset for use as the keepout? I didn't think so. I also have to do this for 4 variations in board outlines where approx. 20 - 25% of the board outline is

[PEDA] Clipboard to copy from PCB to other Windows apps

2001-12-13 Thread HxEngr
I'm trying to grab a clip from a PCB file to copy to another app (PowerPoint, although I can get there via any of a hundred other apps). I can't get the copy operation to work such that I can then paste. I recall there being a trick to it; seems like I've done it before, but I can't remember

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Ted Tontis
I just talked to a sales rep. regarding the 20% discount. It is for 98 users only, they get 20% off the 99SE price and one year of ATS. They have to pay the full price for Phoenix when it is released. regards, Ted -Original Message- From: Frank Gilley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: [PEDA] Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for do wnload

2001-12-13 Thread Clive . Broome
I suspect the P99SE clients that are eligdable for free support will be offered an upgrade to Pheonix. These clients are now no longer P99 clients but Pheonix clients with 1 years free support. Now this new Pheonix will be version 1 with all the bugs associated with new release. I bet the

Re: [PEDA] .TXT File generation (testpoints)

2001-12-13 Thread Casey Vanderweide
You have to set a couple of DRC items to do this, under manufacturing, 'testpoint style' fill out the size and what side of the board the testpoints are on, I would set the testpoint grid size to 1mil or else it won't find many of them (possible bug?) Then under the same manufacturing tab go to

Re: [PEDA] Clipboard to copy from PCB to other Windows apps

2001-12-13 Thread Clive . Broome
Hit 'Print Screen' to copy the whole screen into window's clipboard [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/14/2001 08:19:57 AM Please respond to Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Clive Broome/sdc) Subject: [PEDA] Clipboard to copy from PCB to

Re: [PEDA] Clipboard to copy from PCB to other Windows apps

2001-12-13 Thread lloyd . good
Steve, You can export the print preview parts out to a windows metafile, but for small snips of pcb this is a real lengthy process. You're better to use a utility (shareware) called Snag-it . This is a great little utility and very easy to use, you can select portions of the screen or the whole

Re: [PEDA] Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for download

2001-12-13 Thread Peter McConaghy

Re: [PEDA] Antwort: Altera and other

2001-12-13 Thread intellasys
Gisbert, You make some nice products where your work. I couldn't zoom in enough to see what parts your using. I own the Lattice, Xilinx and Altera tools. None were free. Used Actel at one point. It also was not free. So, who's free tools are you using and what devices can they target?

Re: [PEDA] Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for do wnload

2001-12-13 Thread Ted Tontis
I was told that the year starts when you upgrade, so not everyone will have to make there ATS payment at the same time. Regards, Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:21 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA]

Re: [PEDA] Antwort: Altera and other

2001-12-13 Thread Brian Guralnick
Though the compiling tools for Xilinx Altera cost money, I must admit that there is a ton of work involved within the development of these tools. As an example, Altera's Quartus takes my mess of gates, logic VHDL numbering in the million range, mushes them together, simplifies it down to

Re: [PEDA] Antwort: Altera and other

2001-12-13 Thread intellasys
Brian, So, you agree that it's alright for these companies to recover their investments by charging for the software tools and not just for the IC's. When I bought into the Magnum, it was about $7K/seat with a $1.5K annual fee. I have found Altera's support to be lacking, and I have long given

Re: [PEDA] Signal Analysis ?

2001-12-13 Thread Mark Gavett
If you would, please email the C program to me directly? Thanks in advance. Mark Gavett [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gordon Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Signal Analysis ?

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:16 PM 12/13/01 -0500, Brian Guralnick wrote: Oddly enough, the first time I called for Protel support back with P98, the first thing they told me to do was join this list. Q, Does Protel send my support dollars to maintain this group then? Fortune smiled on you that day. Most

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:30 PM 12/13/01 -0600, Frank Gilley wrote: Do you know for a fact that upgrading from 98 to 99SE will get you the next release free due to ATS membership? Or is this speculation? It has been represented to me as a certainty. The fact is that 99SE is enough of an improvement over P98 to

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I could have said this more strongly: At 03:30 PM 12/13/01 -0600, Frank Gilley wrote: Do you know for a fact that upgrading from 98 to 99SE will get you the next release free due to ATS membership? Or is this speculation? ATS explicitly includes upgrades released during the ATS period, that's

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:22 PM 12/13/01 -0600, Ted Tontis wrote: I just talked to a sales rep. regarding the 20% discount. It is for 98 users only, they get 20% off the 99SE price and one year of ATS. They have to pay the full price for Phoenix when it is released. That is *not* how it has been announced. ATS

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure

2001-12-13 Thread Dwight Harm
From Protel website: - 20% discount on your Protel full-suite new license or upgrade* - 12-months free ATS membership (retail value US $1,995) which guarantees you the next Protel version FREE!** -Original Message- From: Ted Tontis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December

Re: [PEDA] Current support (was: Altium Total Support Brochure)

2001-12-13 Thread Dwight Harm
I've had over a dozen emails from Altium support in the last couple months, regarding 3 or 4 different issues/questions. The problems weren't all resolved completely, but the personnel are definitely making an effort to respond constructively. I have to say there was a dry spell about a year

Re: [PEDA] .TXT File generation

2001-12-13 Thread Anthony Whitesell
I know that the pick and Place file when you generate the Gerber files will give the X/Y coordinates of the components and their rotation. I am not familiar with a way to get the testpoint coordinates Anthony Whitesell Sunrise Labs -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for do wnload

2001-12-13 Thread Wolfgang . Geier
Hi I have downloaded it without problems. Our company has bought additional licenses in July 2001. I think there is one year ATS included. Regards Wolfgang Geier JUMPtec AG PPC Embedded Components Stephen Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13.12.2001 17:06 Please respond to Protel EDA Forum

Re: [PEDA] Connection (ratsnest) color (was: How to change Netlist lines back to solid lines?)

2001-12-13 Thread Dwight Harm
Setting this color (Options | Colors | Connections) has no effect on my system (99SEsp6). I seem to recall a discussion about this some time ago, and no one got it to work. So, Tom -- does this actually work for you? Dwight. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] ATS and non-US users

2001-12-13 Thread Ben Uijtenhaak
Steve, I'm a P99SE user since december 1999 and do not experience any problems logging in to download the training manual. The hardest thing was looking up the current license. Regards, Ben Uijtenhaak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gatsometer BV P.O. Box 4959 2003EZ Haarlem The Netherlands phone : +31

Re: [PEDA] Clipboard to copy from PCB to other Windows apps

2001-12-13 Thread Wolfgang . Geier
Hi Go to Print/Preview -Edit-Copy . You can insert the layout in other programs. regards Wolfgang Geier JUMPtec AG PPC Embedded Components * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: *