[PEDA] Bugs of BOM

2002-04-03 Thread yczhangxx
Version:Protel 99 SE with SP6 1.If the part value of a capacitor is 10p ,it will be reported as 0.916667 in the BOM .(But 10pF or 10Pis correctly reported in BOM) 2.If the the part value of a component is blank,the component will not appears (be reported)in the BOM.

Re: [PEDA] Bugs of BOM

2002-04-03 Thread Edi Im Hof
At 17:37 03.04.02 +0800, you wrote: Version:Protel 99 SE with SP6 1.If the part value of a capacitor is 10p ,it will be reported as 0.916667 in the BOM .(But 10pF or 10Pis correctly reported in BOM) Known Bug. the 'p' is interpretes as something. Cant remember what (Time?). Workarround:

Re: [PEDA] spice models

2002-04-03 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:12 AM 3/04/2002 +0200, Rolf Molitor said: The 'simulator-engine' protel uses is XSpice, an extended Spice3. It is very powerful and you can substitute almost any 'non-standard-Spice-structure' of e.g. PSpice. IsSpice uses the XSpice-engine too, so it might be just a very small problem to

Re: [PEDA] Parts and Vendors

2002-04-03 Thread Rob Bargo
We used Parts and Vendors for 3-4 years and the engineering staff loved it. The problem was with accounting. When we tried to use this tool to accurately track inventory costs we discovered it was not intended for this and we had to change. For organizing engineering parts and all of the linking

Re: [PEDA] Tasking software

2002-04-03 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] Bugs of BOM

2002-04-03 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] Tasking software

2002-04-03 Thread Ted Tontis
I have not received my copy yet. Ted, Milwaukee WI -Original Message- From: Burt Bicksler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 6:40 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Tasking software Just wondering.. Is anyone else here in the states still waiting for the

[PEDA] SV: Tasking software

2002-04-03 Thread Peder K. Hellegaard
Neither have I. Peter (Denmark) -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Ted Tontis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sendt: 3. april 2002 15:36 Til: 'Protel EDA Forum' Emne: Re: [PEDA] Tasking software I have not received my copy yet. Ted, Milwaukee WI -Original Message- From: Burt Bicksler

[PEDA] WANTED: PCB Expert (Off Topic)

2002-04-03 Thread Jason Morgan
Hi, We have a board warping problem and are looking for a PCB expert to help resolve it. (Preferably located in the UK, but not important) When I say expert, I mean *EXPERT*. The problem is quite complex and already has baffled two manufacturers. We will pay the going rate for any

Re: [PEDA] SV: Tasking software

2002-04-03 Thread Rolf Molitor
Got mine a week ago. And it is great ! Rolf Molitor Ingenieurbuero i2e Remscheid/Germany -Urspr√ľngliche Nachricht- Von: Peder K. Hellegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. April 2002 15:43 Betreff: [PEDA] SV: Tasking software Neither

Re: [PEDA] SV: Tasking software

2002-04-03 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] WANTED: PCB Expert (Off Topic)

2002-04-03 Thread Mike Reagan
Jason Some of our advice is free What process is warping the boards? Reflow or manufacturing? or upset employee? Mike Reagan EDSI - Original Message - From: Jason Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:03 AM Subject: [PEDA]

Re: [PEDA] WANTED: PCB Expert (Off Topic)

2002-04-03 Thread Jason Morgan
Many thanks, Details are as follows: 6 Layer 1.6 FR4 8 x 10 Board PCB support is a wasted rectangle 10mm wide along all edges, supporting PCB at 2 or 3 points along each edge. (First observation is that this should have copper layers) Layer stack up is two cores + two foils (sizes rounded to

[PEDA] PCB file translation

2002-04-03 Thread lloyd . good
Hello all, I just received a pcb file from a subsiduary in Spain. They want us to manufacture the product for them. Only one little problem, their files are made with VISULA from ZUKEN-REDAC. Anyone know anything about this S/W and whether there is a possibility of translating it to Protel? Or

Re: [PEDA] Parts and Vendors

2002-04-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Rob: From what I can tell, doesn't PV store parts data in Microsoft Access format? If so, did you guys ever try to run a query to produce inventory costs that were usable by the accounting dept? We have considered PV before, but were always hesitant, because we didn't know if it would improve

Re: [PEDA] PCB file translation

2002-04-03 Thread John M. Cardone
Lloyd, Router Solutions' CADCAM product claims to be able to do what you need. http://www.camcad.com/Features/supportedsys.html John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I just received a pcb file from a subsiduary in Spain. They want us to manufacture the product for them. Only one

Re: [PEDA] Parts and Vendors

2002-04-03 Thread Brad Velander
Ivan, I believe the problem with PV is that accounting wants historical pricing for multiple purchases to give a real value for the inventory. This is one area that PV doesn't appear to have all the features that a accounting department wants. For the engineering environment PV works just

Re: [PEDA] WANTED: PCB Expert (Off Topic)

2002-04-03 Thread Richard Sumner
Have you tried running a blank board (no solder, no components) through the solder/reflow heating cycle? And possibly a board with solder, but no components? Hi, We have a board warping problem and are looking for a PCB expert to help resolve it. (Preferably located in the UK, but

Re: [PEDA] WANTED: PCB Expert (Off Topic)

2002-04-03 Thread H. Selfridge
Some things to consider: 1. FR4 resin transition temperature is between 115C and 135C. Reflow soldering temperatures are typically 215C to 255C. Any internal stress in the board will be relieved by warp and twist when the board becomes plastic at the reflow temperature. The board fab must

Re: [PEDA] WANTED: PCB Expert (Off Topic)

2002-04-03 Thread Mike Reagan
I agree with Brad Mike Reagan - Original Message - From: Brad Velander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] WANTED: PCB Expert (Off Topic) Darryl, Henry, Mark, just as a point of discussion, I don't see

Re: [PEDA] WANTED: PCB Expert (Off Topic)

2002-04-03 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] WANTED: PCB Expert (Off Topic)

2002-04-03 Thread Jon Elson
Jason Morgan wrote: Many thanks, Details are as follows: 6 Layer 1.6 FR4 8 x 10 Board PCB support is a wasted rectangle 10mm wide along all edges, supporting PCB at 2 or 3 points along each edge. (First observation is that this should have copper layers) A number of different ways to

Re: [PEDA] WANTED: PCB Expert (Off Topic)

2002-04-03 Thread Lomax
At 03:03 PM 4/3/2002 +0100, Jason Morgan wrote: We have a board warping problem and are looking for a PCB expert to help resolve it. (Preferably located in the UK, but not important) Unless it involves looking at the fabbed board itself -- we haven't gone far enough to know if that would be

Re: [PEDA] WANTED: PCB Expert (Off Topic)

2002-04-03 Thread Darryl Newberry
I have to backpedal on the CTE differences, I jumped on it because the pure CTEs are that much different, all other things being equal. I have no idea what Ni-Au alloy CTE is vs Cu. I think Mr. Selfridge enumerates the more likely culprits. I have experienced some of those, albeit on MUCH larger

Re: [PEDA] Text

2002-04-03 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:58 AM 4/4/2002 +1000, Don Ingram wrote: If you have been following the thread, it is far easier to browse the reply if it is at the top. Yes. Sometimes. If. This is particularly true if you are sliding down the messages list watching in the Outlook preview window. Yes again. I don't

Re: [PEDA] SV: Tasking software

2002-04-03 Thread Lomax
The yahoogroups lists have polling tools; in particular [EMAIL PROTECTED], to which many of us are subscribed. This kind of question, I think, would be better handled with a poll than with a *very* anecdotal kind of me too or me neither thread on this list. The polling feature on [EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] WANTED: PCB Expert (Off Topic)

2002-04-03 Thread Larry G. Nelson Sr.
Since it seems to get better over time is it possible that there is a moisture or humidity related problem. I have seen surface mount chips explode if they absorb moisture then get soldered. If the laminate has moisture in it and it changes with the heating it may then relax as it reabsorbs

[PEDA] Rubberbanding

2002-04-03 Thread SHAWN

Re: [PEDA] Rubberbanding

2002-04-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Yes, but not in a way that you will find satisfactory in the Schematic module. Most of the time you will have to delete and redraw the wires in SCH. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: SHAWN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel

Re: [PEDA] Rubberbanding

2002-04-03 Thread Peter Bennett
SHAWN wrote: Does Protel support 'rubberbanding' in the Schematic Capture module or PCB module -- whereby connectivity is maintained when a component is moved? Shawn Yes - Move/Drag (MD) or Move/Drag Selection (MS) in schematic. In PCB, you have to turn on drag tracks in one of the

Re: [PEDA] Rubberbanding

2002-04-03 Thread SHAWN
Thanks for the rubberbanding help. Shawn - Original Message - From: Peter Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Rubberbanding SHAWN wrote: Does Protel support 'rubberbanding' in the Schematic

Re: [PEDA] Text

2002-04-03 Thread Dennis Saputelli
i say top response bottom quote except when interspersing is essential or the dialog is very lengthy i have also learned from experience (not nec. here) that 2 or more topics or questions per message are not a good thing Dennis Saputelli --

Re: [PEDA] Text

2002-04-03 Thread Terry Harris
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 00:58:54 +1000, you wrote: If you have been following the thread, it is far easier to browse the reply if it is at the top. Not when you were following it yesterday. IMHO there is nothing more annoying than clawing your way through untold levels of arrows from prior

Re: [PEDA] Text

2002-04-03 Thread Ian Wilson
On 02:53 AM 4/04/2002 +0100, Terry Harris said: Top posted with pride ;-) It really depends on if you are | I agree with you Terry trying to hold a conversation | on this one. with some one or just alternately broadcasting at each other. Oh and being lazy - like Outlook|