[PEDA] Re[2]: DXP - Crunch time?

2002-09-08 Thread Phillip Stevens
Maybe I'd be happier if they just added a check box (or boxes) somewhere which would hide any not yet known stable and debugged code from user sight, (ie Alpha/Beta code). This way I don't accidently stumble into an unstable area, and cause problems for myself. On the other hand, if I want a

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Joe Sapienza
I know you do PCB layout, but do you design software also? Tony, I do PCB in Protel and the competition package. I also do mechanical stuff in Acad and Cadkey, soon adding Solidworks. I spent the last 6 years developing Controllers, touchscreens and customized software interfaces, so I do have

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Joe Sapienza
Maybe that is where P99 ended up. Like I said, I'm just guessing. without sitting down and doing an in depth lookse. I am not inclined nor do I have the free time. - Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday,

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Joe Sapienza
Jami, I read this and I agree with some of it. Keeping in mind several reasons for the timing of an Immature release, or a late release I understand the sales and marketing side of the argument. As far as the user side It is unacceptable to consume time sorting out the problems in a new tool

Re: [PEDA] DXP - Crunch time?

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
you said it all Igor -Original Message- From: Fabian Hartery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 7 September 2002 1:51 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP - Crunch time? Dennis, The only thing I could relate to with demolishing a DDB architecture is that there is

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
doesn't do it to me Igor -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 7 September 2002 5:21 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith Subject: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture. OK . . . So I'll admit, I missed the Class on Protel 99 SE Basics . . .

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
In my experience Protel versions 3.0, 98 and 99 were flaky. Protel 99SE with SP6 is stable. I aggree with you on SP7. There are things to be corrected. Igor -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 7 September 2002 6:41 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc:

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
There are many factors in the same equation, but as I see it, they had to come up with something completely new so they could introduce the ATS. That, to me, is the most important factor in all this. They are fighting for revenue, as any other busines does. That they might lose in the end is a

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
All, I have got some messages this morning, stating I am sending spam. They came as answers to messages posted to this forum. If someone is trying to unsubscribe and have difficulties, they better look somewhere else for a solution. Could a group administrator have a look into who this might

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Igor, It does NOT go KLUNK! when you exit Protel 99 SE from the Exit selection of the File menu pulldown? Is your sound turned on? What type of machine and what OS are you using? Thanks, JaMi - Original Message - From: Igor Gmitrovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread Tony Karavidas
Hey I'm getting the same bloody emails. I've had 3 or 4 of them in the past few days. Here is the header as I see it: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from neatmail.neat.com (neat.kollmorgen.com [12.30.32.198]) by addr32.addr.com (8.11.6/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g871Dt532935

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Igor and the group, I have been getting the same Cease the Spam messages in response to my posts also, and this has been happening since to me ever since Friday at about 6 PM Pacific Coast Time. It only happens when I post to this forum, and then only after the post is redistributed to the

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread Thomas
I'm not getting it here. Tom. -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 9 September 2002 11:39 To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith Subject: Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam Igor and the group, I have been getting the same Cease the Spam messages

[PEDA] off topic supply SOS

2002-09-08 Thread Brian Guralnick
Having not placed enough power supply decoupling caps on a beta PCB, I'm looking for a temporary overpriced decoupling solution until the next beta boards are printed. I'm looking for the lowest ESR possible caps. I found this company WIMA. http://www.wima.de/smd2220.htm 1.0uf, 0.1uf,

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread Rob Young
I've been getting them too. Rob - Original Message - From: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam Igor and the group, I have been getting the

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Tony, I have checked out the Kollmorgen web site, and it is a defense manufacturer on the east coast, and it looks like they could actually have someone in their MA office that actually uses Protel, and hence is a member of the forum. While even that can be spoofed, I have compared the Message

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread Terry Harris
On Sun, 8 Sep 2002 18:25:14 -0700, you wrote: Hey I'm getting the same bloody emails. I've had 3 or 4 of them in the past few days. I got one also. Probably get another one from this post sigh. Here is the header as I see it: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only postings to this list from that server

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Tom, Then that means you must be the spammer! Just kidding, just kidding :: ) JaMi PS. Do you know what this is === ::) It's a smiley wearing his glasses . . . - Original Message - From: Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread Thomas
Somehow I thought this might happen: Received: from neatmail.neat.com (neat.kollmorgen.com [12.30.32.198]) by ntserver.novaris.com.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id P4R9QAVG; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:51:36 +1000 Received: by neat.kollmorgen.com with

Re: [PEDA] off topic supply SOS

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Brian, What are you looking for? Tantalems? Ceramics? What is the frequency you are having problems with? Can you piggy back different values such as a 0.1uF and 100pF ceramic? JaMi - Original Message - From: Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread Tim Hutcheson
I'm getting them, too. Tim Hutcheson -Original Message- From: Rob Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:52 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam I've been getting them too. Rob - Original Message - From: JaMi Smith [EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread Joe Sapienza
I got three of those just today, anyone have any answers? - Original Message - From: Igor Gmitrovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam All, I have got some messages this morning,

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
JaMi, No, it doesn't. The sound is turned on. Dell, PIII, 700, 256, W2K, P99SE SP6. Regards, Igor -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 9 September 2002 11:16 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith Subject: Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this

Re: [PEDA] off topic supply SOS

2002-09-08 Thread Joe Sapienza
Brian, Panasonic also makes an extremely low ESR Cap(radial), I used them in a switching PWR, supply. Usually off shore only availability I was able to get them years ago with a 20 Wk Lead. Pink Body, very distinctive. Joe - Original Message - From: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [PEDA] off topic supply SOS

2002-09-08 Thread Dennis Saputelli
it's not exactly off topic, the board and the planes play a big role what makes you say you have not placed enough? Dennis Saputelli Brian Guralnick wrote: Having not placed enough power supply decoupling caps on a beta PCB, I'm looking for a temporary overpriced decoupling solution until

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Bingo! I think you hit the nail on the head Terry! I tried to search my archive here on Friday night, but I only go back to 9/13/01 on this machine here at home, and I came up with a blank (didn't go back far enough). Thanks! I fired off a couple of test messages to that email address just

Re: [PEDA] off topic supply SOS

2002-09-08 Thread Terry Harris
On Sun, 08 Sep 2002 21:45:51 -0400, Brian Guralnick wrote: Having not placed enough power supply decoupling caps on a beta PCB, I'm looking for a temporary overpriced decoupling solution until the next beta boards are printed. I'm looking for the lowest ESR possible caps. I found this company

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread Joe Sapienza
well too late as his ass is toast I took my own header reading, forwarded it to one of my best friends who happens to the VP of marketing in one of their divisions close by, I specifically requested he forward the info to MIS. I'm sure by tomorrow noon something will

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Igor, OK, well it just keeps getting more and more bizarre! But what can you expect with Protel. You are the first person to respond that has said that KLUNK! does not actually go KLUNK! on your machine. I wonder what makes your system different from all of the others that have responded? Is

Re: [PEDA] You can't get there from here (I think)...

2002-09-08 Thread DUTTON Phil
Hello Richard, We regularly produce good assembly drawings from Protel. What we do is as follows; We have a sheet border on one of the Mechanical layers, and use this layer for all of the assembly notes, item balloons etc. Company graphics are just lines and arcs, created initially from a

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Terry Creer

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Jami, My setting for the Critical Stop shows chord.wav as well. Igor -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 9 September 2002 2:16 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith Subject: Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture. Igor, OK, well it just

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
That's called action. The nastygrams are not coming anymore. Igor -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 9 September 2002 1:26 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith Subject: Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam Bingo! I think you hit the nail on the head