Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up

2003-01-09 Thread Michael . Binning
John, I tried disabling the network card through the device manager, but it did not stop the lockups. The Network card is a 3Com as well. Mike.

Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up

2003-01-09 Thread Michael . Binning
Actually, I am starting to see a pattern here. It seems several of my collegues see these occasional lockups. All those who see them are running P2's or P3's. Anybody running a P4 doesn't seem to see it. I wonder if it could be a P2/P3 Win2k incompatibility problem. Mike.

[PEDA] Pet Peeve (irritating lost feature)

2003-01-09 Thread Jeff Stout
The finish line is in sight. All I have to do is generate the Gerber's, zip them up, and email them to PCB'S R US. Ok, I push F9 then review the files in the CAM directory to make sure everything is ok, and WTF? Damm it, the files were exported to a CAM directory in the previous project

Re: [PEDA] Pet Peeve (irritating lost feature)

2003-01-09 Thread Brad Velander
Jeff, are you using Windows Files system or the DDB database format for your files? Is this even a P99SE question or possibly DXP? I use the DDB database format and my Gerbers always export to the last set (in preferences) directory location. If I never change it, it will always generate

Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up

2003-01-09 Thread Brad Velander
Michael, to the best of my knowledge I am currently running a P3 (damn Intel and their stupid Model X Stepping X bullshit) on W2KPro without the problems you are describing. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089

Re: [PEDA] The going price for P99SE on Ebay

2003-01-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Abdul: That was not nice of you to bid up the price if you didn't want it for yourself. You just made somebody pay more than he should have. Stunts like this are why I have never bought anything by e-bay. Last year I had my assistant (who is an e-bay junkie) bid on some test equipment items

Re: [PEDA] Pet Peeve (irritating lost feature)

2003-01-09 Thread Peter W. Richards
It would be nice if the CAM export directory could be made project-relative or relative to the location of the DDB. It seems to be absolute. Say I design and save a PCB. Now I want to work on rev 2 (but save the original rev1 for posterity). I copy the rev1 design database into a new

Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up

2003-01-09 Thread ajenkins
From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] (damn Intel and their stupid Model X Stepping X bullshit) Brad, Haven't you ever issued a revised PCB or statistically sorted product based on performance or target form-factor? Personally, I'm glad of it. It means that I can purchase a

Re: [PEDA] Pet Peeve (irritating lost feature)

2003-01-09 Thread Bob Cook
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Re: [PEDA] Pet Peeve (irritating lost feature)

2003-01-09 Thread Jeff Stout
DDB Database/P99SE/SP6/W2k What I'm saying is, open project X, generate Gerber's/export Gerber's and they go to project X directory (correct). Open project Y, generate Gerber's/export Gerber's and they go to project X directory (wrong). Open project Z, generate Gerber's/export Gerber's and they

Re: [PEDA] The going price for P99SE on Ebay

2003-01-09 Thread Matt Pobursky
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 12:16:29 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: ..snip...  BTW, $2500 is what I think a brand new full Protel suite should cost (from  Protel), not $8000, or $9000, or whatever the heck it is now. Ivan, Funny how a truly open market does that to pricing, isn't it? ;-) Matt

Re: [PEDA] Pet Peeve (irritating lost feature)

2003-01-09 Thread JaMi Smith
Jeff, I think I understand what you are saying, and while I never realized it before, I think that it has been happening to me also. When I generate gerbers (do an F9) I always have to answer a do you want to overwrite message of some kind, pretaining to some file(s) somewhere, which I never

Re: [PEDA] Pet Peeve (irritating lost feature)

2003-01-09 Thread Steve Wiseman
09/01/2003 18:21:32, Jeff Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DDB Database/P99SE/SP6/W2k Windows files, but otherwise identical. Are you saying I'm the only one this happens to? Nope - same happens here, and it's very annoying - to the level that sometimes I need to let file - find hunt the files

Re: [PEDA] Pet Peeve (irritating lost feature)

2003-01-09 Thread Brad Velander
Jeff, I am saying that it does exactly what you have now stated, with one minor exception. Somewhere you must have set Directory X the first time or it had come up by default at that location. Your system works identical to what I would expect and I agree it is a nuisance/peeve. I have

Re: [PEDA] Protel99SE keeps locking up

2003-01-09 Thread Brad Velander
Andrew, what does the software listing of the processor type have to do with the functional compatibilities? I just want Windows to list the Intel designation by it's common name and capabilities (i.e. P4, 256K internal Cache, etc.), not some code that only an IT expert can understand or

Re: [PEDA] Pet Peeve (irritating lost feature)

2003-01-09 Thread Brad Velander
Jami, if your projects(PCBs) are X and ZZZ then you are not overwriting the old files. You may be overwriting an earlier version of the same files or just re-writing the directory name if there was an existing directory of the same name with no existing gerber files. If the PCB file names

Re: [PEDA] EAGLE netlist?

2003-01-09 Thread Dennis Saputelli
I just got a 5 page fax of an EAGLE schematic to layout do i have to redraw this thing in protel? or in other words does anyone know if Eagle can do a Tango or Protel netlist? Dennis Saputelli = send only plain text please! - no HTML ==

Re: [PEDA] The going price for P99SE on Ebay

2003-01-09 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:16 PM 1/9/2003, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: That was not nice of you to bid up the price if you didn't want it for yourself. You just made somebody pay more than he should have. More than he should have. What is that? I was not aware that there was any fixed standard for the resale

Re: [PEDA] The going price for P99SE on Ebay

2003-01-09 Thread Bruce Walter
'Abd ul-Rahman Lomax' said: I placed a bid on that license even though I'm short of cash (I bid $2025) simply because I couldn't stand to see it go for under $2,000. I'm trying to sell an extra 99SE license for $4500! (OBO). I (and others may) still think that the attitude; I see someone on

Re: [PEDA] Pet Peeve (irritating lost feature)

2003-01-09 Thread JaMi Smith
Brad, I am not sure what I am overwriting, and I am just using X and ZZZ to signify I have overwriten something a whole bunch of times. Next time I go thru the F9 process I will pay more attention. :-) JaMi - Original Message - From: Brad Velander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA

Re: [PEDA] EAGLE netlist?

2003-01-09 Thread Mike Reagan
Dennis, If Eagle outputs to any other standard netlist, I can convert it for you no charge to Protel format.I have an RSI netlist translator. By the way small pitch for RSI, this product works well. Mike - Original Message - From: Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA

Re: [PEDA] The going price for P99SE on Ebay

2003-01-09 Thread Richard Sumner
Mr. Lomax placed his bid and was ready to buy it at that price. Someone else was willing to pay a bit more. If I needed another license, I would have made a bid myself, possibly much higher (it went rather cheaply compared to what I paid for 3.5 and upgrades to 99se), but I don't and I

Re: [PEDA] EAGLE netlist? and ERC / DRC ruminations

2003-01-09 Thread Dennis Saputelli
Mike Reagan wrote: Dennis, If Eagle outputs to any other standard netlist, I can convert it for you no charge to Protel format.I have an RSI netlist translator. By the way small pitch for RSI, this product works well. Mike gee that sounds pretty high, can you do it for less? :)

Re: [PEDA] The going price for P99SE on Ebay

2003-01-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Abdul: More than he should have. What is that? I was not aware that there was any fixed standard for the resale price of Protel software There isn't. More than he should have in this context means the price was bid up by you because you thought it wasn't at fair value - not in any