Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Reinitiering

2001-05-07 Thread Andy Gulliver
Ah, if only! Why did they ever do away with the batch router? Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: TSListServer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tommy Ekesson Sent: 06 February 2001 14:49 To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers Subject: [PROTEL EDA USERS

Re: [PEDA] Strange SP6 library file dates

2001-05-07 Thread Andy Gulliver
I've not seen this as such, but feel it might be related to a phenomenon I've seen since at least P98 where I'll get prompted on exit to save changes to a file (often a .lib file) even though I've only opened it to e.g. check pad dimensions on a symbol. Regards Andy Gulliver (Posted 2001/03/30

Re: [PEDA] Info about PCI specs

2001-05-07 Thread Andy Gulliver
but had worked OK with a lower spec. processor board - they'd designed circuitry that didn't meet the spec but worked when originally tested. Looks like it's the same with PCI - shortcuts can work fine in some systems but not the higher speed ones. Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message

Re: [PEDA] OT: Unused CMOS inputs (was: Reference)

2001-05-07 Thread Andy Gulliver
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Re: [PEDA] Microstrip Corners (or optimal miters)

2001-08-01 Thread Andy Gulliver
One caveat on the use of curved corners:- they're placed as arcs rather than curved tracks, so if you use the autorouter it will ignore their locked attribute (if set) and mess up your careful hand routing! (BTDT...) Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Thomas [mailto

Re: [PEDA] Different sized ground traces

2001-08-01 Thread Andy Gulliver
Assuming you're using 99SE, then you can set up a net class for each group of nets with a particular width requirement and specify a width rule based on net class for each class. This is one rule the autorouter actually follows! Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Mark W

Re: [PEDA] Different sized ground traces

2001-08-01 Thread Andy Gulliver
After re-reading your original email, I might have missed the point - if you want different widths on different parts of the same net then you'll have to route those segments manually as the autorouter ignores rules set by from-to, as mentioned in an earlier reply. Regards Andy Gulliver

Re: [PEDA] Changes to the Protel company name

2001-08-08 Thread Andy Gulliver
...like most of the UK :-( and where it's available they charge 150ukp installation plus 25ukp a month for 512kbit ADSL. Fortunately at the office we've got 256kbit, but there are still too many frames, flash intros and other web frills out there. Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message

[PEDA] Router crashes (P99SE/SP6)

2001-08-08 Thread Andy Gulliver
to be accessible, but the Sophos update could be significant. Can anyone shed any light on the cause (and hopefully fix for) this crash? Regards Andy Gulliver No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were significantly inconvenienced

Re: [PEDA] Router crashes (P99SE/SP6)

2001-08-09 Thread Andy Gulliver
Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 August 2001 19:04 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Router crashes (P99SE/SP6) Have you tried moving the files to the local drive, disconnecting the network and logging

Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?

2001-08-09 Thread Andy Gulliver
a new EMC directive being worked on (EMCD:2000), currently scheduled to come into force Q4/2005. Regards Andy Gulliver - in the UK and still (relatively) sane after 8 years of EMC =:~} -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 August 2001 01:04

Re: [PEDA] CE marking (was Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?)

2001-08-13 Thread Andy Gulliver
with. There is much confusion generated from the assumption that CE marking is just about EMC, whereas the EMC directive is just one that a piece of electronics needs to comply with. Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 August

Re: [PEDA] Plane vs. Split Plane

2001-08-15 Thread Andy Gulliver
, and have them in different colours, whilst placing the boundary tracks. Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 August 2001 11:51 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Plane vs. Split Plane I've got a multi layer board

Re: [PEDA] Antwort: tenting vias;what Intel says

2001-08-23 Thread Andy Gulliver
or via) clearance rule at double the basic board spacing and this stopped the problems - at the expense of routability. Under BGAs, I'd always tent vias as any risk of shorts is too great a risk given the cost/difficulty of inspection and rework. Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message

Re: [PEDA] Problems when pouring polygons

2001-09-05 Thread Andy Gulliver
. Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Florian Finsterbusch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 September 2001 08:56 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Problems when pouring polygons Hello everybody, we have some problems when pouring polygons. On our multilayer board

Re: [PEDA] Altera 144Pin TQFP Landing Pattern

2001-09-07 Thread Andy Gulliver
pad positions to the nearest mil, although beware that on really small footprints the pad displacement in converting can be a significant percentage of the pad spacing (although I've yet to see any problems caused by this approach). Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

[PEDA] DXF export bug?

2001-10-31 Thread Andy Gulliver
to the planes on the exported file (pads are exported OK). Can anyone else confirm this behaviour? I'd guess at it being a legacy thing from the days when vias couldn't be connected to internal planes, and the export utility hasn't been upgraded to allow for them to be connected. Regards Andy Gulliver

Re: [PEDA] DXF export bug?

2001-10-31 Thread Andy Gulliver
Thanks Mike, It turns out that the people I've been sending DXFs to have a Gerber viewer... As you say, it's always more accurate to use the Gerbers, especially since the 'print final' option was removed :-( Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Let Me Out Of Here!!!!

2001-10-31 Thread Andy Gulliver
I had a similar problem following a recent change of company email addresses - there's a note on the website on how to unsubscribe by email, which works OK at http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/joinforum.html Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: John Scott [mailto

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-19 Thread Andy Gulliver
- Schematic - PCB - Powerprint - CAM Manager - Autorouter - CamTastic (if it counts as part of Protel...) Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Edi Im Hof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 18:17 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Protel usage Hi

Re: [PEDA] Seeking Popular or Standard Footprint for Surface Mount LEDs

2001-12-03 Thread Andy Gulliver
My anti-Murphy tactic is to use SOT-23 LEDs. They may not be a small or cheap as rectangular footprint parts, but they're a lot harder to fit wrongly! Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 November 2001 16:11

Re: [PEDA] License number not accepted

2001-12-18 Thread Andy Gulliver
No luck here either :-( I've tried using the new company name (notified to Premier a couple of months ago, I think), the old name and my name as company contact - none worked. Time to call Premier I guess... Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Stephen Casey [mailto

Re: [PEDA] License number not accepted

2001-12-18 Thread Andy Gulliver
do not wish to receive further e-mails on this or similar subjects from Premier, please reply to this e-mail, typing the text Un-Subscribe in the subject box of your reply e-mail. Worth a try? Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] 1206 4xresistor network footprint in downloaded libraries. Where?

2001-12-20 Thread Andy Gulliver
in data sheets (I think Philips/BC have one for the SMT resistor networks - which one are you using? I may have done a footprint for it already), although these often get modified based on feedback from our assembly people. Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Blandford

Re: [PEDA] Client99se schematics to EDIF 2.0

2002-01-03 Thread Andy Gulliver
In the options for netlist creation (Design|Create Netlist), there are two variants of Edif 2.0 on the drop-down for Output Format on the Preferences tab. Have you tried these? Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03

Re: [PEDA] Illegal Operation crash

2002-01-21 Thread Andy Gulliver
I usually find that if Protel has got into this sort of routine, then it's time to re-boot the PC (often needing power-cycling, just to make sure). The same applies with Windows 2000, although it's not needed nearly as often as with 95! Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From

Re: [PEDA] Is this normal???

2002-01-24 Thread Andy Gulliver
Don't get me started on Xilinx software, just don't! It even makes Micro$oft look good... been using Xilinx for 8+ years... it wasn't my idea, honest! been using Protel for around 7 years... now that *was* my idea - well, after Cadstar anything's better ;-) Regards Andy Gulliver

Re: [PEDA] Schematics no longer recognized.

2002-01-29 Thread Andy Gulliver
support this? Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Don Ingram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 January 2002 20:47 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Schematics no longer recognized. As an aside... Why don't companies use longer file extensions in an attempt

Re: [PEDA] Warning: Unconnected net label

2002-01-30 Thread Andy Gulliver
Then it'll be the brackets it doesn't like. AD0 thru AD15 should work fine. Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 January 2002 16:22 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Warning: Unconnected net label The bottom

Re: [PEDA] Warning: Unconnected net label

2002-02-01 Thread Andy Gulliver
Seconded! (especially the control bus). Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 January 2002 16:45 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Warning: Unconnected net label [cut] Bus/Port/Sheet Entry label Wish list

Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track

2002-02-01 Thread Andy Gulliver
Same here - it's amazing how much router fallout the Mk.1 eyeball can find :-) Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Andrew Ircha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 February 2002 16:28 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track If you find out let use know

Re: [PEDA] Weird behaviour

2002-03-06 Thread Andy Gulliver
within a certain time of closing Protel? Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Sean James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 March 2002 11:57 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Weird behaviour Has anybody had this happen to Protel 99SE under WIN 2K Professional? I've had

Re: [PEDA] Schematic standards

2002-03-27 Thread Andy Gulliver
at the crossover *isn't* meant to be a connection! (We were taught this rule a few years back in the days of dyeline prints from 'pencil on drafting film' schematics, and although modern photocopiers are a lot better it's still worth following). Regards, Andy Gulliver

Re: [PEDA] BMP2PCB Question (slightly off topic)

2002-04-15 Thread Andy Gulliver
a printable result without too much distortion of the original logo. Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Abd ulRahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 April 2002 22:28 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] BMP2PCB Question (slightly off topic) At 02:06 PM 4/12/2002

Re: [PEDA] Barred (active low) text

2002-04-30 Thread Andy Gulliver
still exist - I haven't used it for years) where a single quote toggled the bar on/off such that 'CS and 'CS' displayed the same. Play safe, avoid the bar! Regards, Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Steve Wiseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Wiseman Sent: 30

Re: [PEDA] genius netscroll mouse

2002-05-31 Thread Andy Gulliver
There was a known issue a while back with the Microsoft Intellimouse causing keyboard shortcuts to stop working, which was fixed by using the Logitech drivers. The latest Microsoft drivers work fine. If this is a related problem then maybe a driver update will help your problem? Regards, Andy

[PEDA] Autorouter just stops...

2002-06-11 Thread Andy Gulliver
-and-something MHz P3 with 512M SDRAM running Windows 2000 Professional) Regards, Andy Gulliver * Tracking #: 0D6407EFA3F3654C90CDEC4D07962F5AD27F0FD9

Re: [PEDA] AW: SPICE sim question

2002-07-02 Thread Andy Gulliver
Also, in practice you'll be very lucky to find a resistor sold as 5% that is within 1% across temperature etc. - they're the ones that are being sold as 1% parts! Regards, Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Gary Packman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 July 2002 10:08

[PEDA] autosave during autoroute - can it be done?

2002-07-08 Thread Andy Gulliver
I've recently found out the hard way that despite having autosave set to 10min./10 copies (not completely paranoid, honest!) nothing gets saved whilst the autorouter is running... (P99SE/SP6) Is there some trick I've missed, or is it just 'one of those features'? Regards, Andy Gulliver

Re: [PEDA] AW: was Speaking of Protel Bugs. space and time and ...

2002-07-24 Thread Andy Gulliver
220V and 240V voltages to comply. I'm now waiting for the EEC to try and come up with a Europe-wide standard mains plug... Regards, Andy Gulliver * Tracking #: 01F38B0B679E074C84E90B2AF6EA890ECA05A666

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-24 Thread Andy Gulliver
, in addition to 120V/50Hz (power tools, but not everywhere) and 230V/50Hz (everything else). As an extra complication, when I worked on avionic stuff many years ago the lab. also had outlets for 115V/400Hz 3-phase (aircraft standard). Regards, Andy Gulliver

Re: [PEDA] AW: was Speaking of Protel Bugs. space and time and ...

2002-07-24 Thread Andy Gulliver
as following a few (more) design rules... Regards, Andy Gulliver still grinning and bearing it (just!) -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 July 2002 15:52 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] AW: was Speaking of Protel Bugs. space

Re: [PEDA] OT Metric vs Imperial

2002-08-02 Thread Andy Gulliver
! Regards Andy Gulliver * Tracking #: 02DB72165BD07A48884015BE428E24F07A28009E * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post

Re: [PEDA] Matched Lenghth Constraint

2002-08-14 Thread Andy Gulliver
find this to be quicker and less wasteful of board space. Regards, Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 August 2002 23:37 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Matched Lenghth Constraint Matched length works very well

Re: [PEDA] Gerber and Specctra bugs

2002-08-14 Thread Andy Gulliver
The Specctra routing layers issue is covered by KB article 2213 - I found it by accident when searching for tips on Specctra interfacing and printed it for future reference. Regards, Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 August

Re: [PEDA] Protel Dimensions

2002-12-13 Thread Andy Gulliver
You can get mm by changing to metric, or else there's the option to 'explode dimension to primitives' after which you can edit the text as a string to whatever you like - although that method is a bit messy, and a pain if you then need to change the dimension. Regards, Andy Gulliver

Re: [PEDA] Protel Dimensions

2002-12-19 Thread Andy Gulliver
I've had the demo CD for a while now, but not had the time for a proper evaluation. We are expected to use Cadence for all new designs following a takeover last year, as it is the parent company standard, which means that an upgrade is now extremely unlikely :-( Regards, Andy Gulliver

Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

2003-01-21 Thread Andy Gulliver
OK, this may be a silly question... but how about using that free copy of Camtastic that came with P99SE to view the Gerbers? The 'auto load' works with just about everything I've thrown at it so far. Regards, Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Terry Creer [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

2003-01-22 Thread Andy Gulliver
and generation of a new database. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Andy Gulliver [mailto:[EMAIL

[PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic

2003-03-21 Thread Andy Gulliver
the HDD!)? Regards, Andy Gulliver * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum

Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic

2003-03-21 Thread Andy Gulliver
-Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 March 2003 10:50 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic On 08:19 PM 21/03/2003, Andy Gulliver said: I'm running P99SE/SP6 on an Athlon 1.2GHz with 1Gb RAM and Windoze98SE

Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic

2003-03-21 Thread Andy Gulliver
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 March 2003 11:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic I recall running into something like this. It's been quite a while ago so my memory of it is fuzzy, but i

Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic

2003-03-21 Thread Andy Gulliver
-Original Message- From: Wojciech Oborski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 March 2003 12:08 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic Andy Gulliver wrote: snip I've tried an uninstall/reinstall of Protel to no effect

Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic

2003-03-21 Thread Andy Gulliver
(direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Andy Gulliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:20 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic I'm running P99SE

Re: [PEDA] P99SE crash on opening schematic - an update

2003-03-26 Thread Andy Gulliver
was that when I came to re-apply SP6, the installer decided that the valid installation was in the recycle bin (which I hadn't emptied since the removal...)! It was however easily persuaded otherwise and normal operation has been restored. Regards, Andy Gulliver

Re: [PEDA] Why does my scroll mouse not work any more?

2003-09-01 Thread Andy Gulliver
All the wheel mouse issues I've seen have been driver related. Have you tried the latest drivers from your mouse manufacturer? The new PC probably has a default set of drivers rather than the latest. Regards, Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Christopher Rhomberg [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Eagle to Protel PCB conversion

2003-09-30 Thread Andy Gulliver
Depending on the board size, you may be able to edit it with the free version. If not then you will be able to at least view it which is useful to check that the Gerber import has worked as intended! Regards, Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Terry Creer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] Blind vias in P99 / Specctra

2003-09-30 Thread Andy Gulliver
about the layer set, although I think Specctra uses the layers turned on and enabled for routing rather than all in the layer stack - so you need to turn them all on and set a routing direction for each. Regards, Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Steve Wiseman [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Blind vias in P99 / Specctra

2003-10-02 Thread Andy Gulliver
vias on that project). Regards, Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Emanuel Zimmermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 October 2003 07:43 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Blind vias in P99 / Specctra Well, this is what I understood already from earlier discussion

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter questions:

2003-10-02 Thread Andy Gulliver
wanting some signals to keep off the outer layers then you'll have to either fanout manually or change the rule for a fanout pass and reset it for the main routing. Regards, Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 October 2003 17:51 To: Protel EDA

Re: [PEDA] How to highlight the Net in different colors in 99SE

2004-03-01 Thread Andy Gulliver
set the net colour. Once this is done, select both nets and the tracks will be highlighted in their own colours. Note that the highlight colour is the same for all layers, so not every 'near miss' will be genuine but it does help track them down. Regards, Andy Gulliver -Original Message