[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestion (Was: Pin-type power - why?)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
in the ERC matrix would allow multiple Power (sources) on a net. This would allow finer control of power nets. And would easily fit into the current ERC regime. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST

[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Bug: Sch Jump To

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
support as well - BCC'd so peoples reply functions do not pick up the Protel address as well, theoretically.) Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the reply command in your email program

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Pin-type power - why?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
be bothered setting it up - which I usually can.) (We are getting some server lag issues here again as I suggested something very similar to what Abd ul-Rahman has suggested (source and sink power variants) about half an hour ago but I didn't think as far through as he has.) Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
, but others may. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the reply command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association

[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Moving components to the cursor (Was:Suggestions for improving Protel move component)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
the cursor always jumped to the component. (This move-component-to-cursor might have been a P99SE improvement.) Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the reply command in your email program

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Solution: Help file not found

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
seem to vaguely recall such a document has been available for each recent service packs. So maybe this is one we can cross off the wish list? Or have I misunderstood your original request - talk about mixing up threads here. Still I s'pose you and I know what we are talking about Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: How to install Protel99SE to run on adual boot system?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
and installing P99SE and the service pack should proceed OK and this installation will/should fix up the mess made in step 5. Worked for me. Ian Wilson ___ Considered Solutions Pty Ltd 5 The Crescent, Chatswood, NSW, 2067 Australia Ph: +61-2-9411-4248 Fx: +61-2

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: How to install Protel99SE to run on adual boot system?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:02 AM 19/02/2001 -0800, Peter Bennett said: Matt Pobursky wrote: snip Since I had SP5 installed with the Win98SE, I cannot re-install SP5 under Win2K, the install program says it's already installed. So I went back to Win98SE and uninstalled SP5. Back to Win2K and installed SP5,

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: How to install Protel99SE to run on adual boot system?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 01:51 PM 19/02/2001 -0800, Peter Bennett said: snip I was told by our PC guru that programs had to be installed separately for Win98 and Win2000, so that's what I did. Drive C is FAT32, and has Win98 on it, along with Protel, MS Office, Netscape. installed under Win98. Drive E is NTFS,

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Relief on Vias

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
to do this as a global change matching by selection. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the reply command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Relief on Vias

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 12:30 PM 21/02/2001 +1100, Michael Beavis said: Would you indulge my curiosity ? How is thermal relief better than direct connect on your board ? -- David Cary Jumping in Soldering pth vias on planes improves the reliability of the connection and to achieve this, thermal relief

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: PCB default design rules.

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
of design rule dialog. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the reply command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 02:58 PM 1/03/2001 +1100, Geoff Harland said: - (Pcb Server): Add support for *resizing* of a currently-focused fill primitive using the *mouse*. That is, if you click on an edge or corner of a currently-focused fill, then you can change the location of that (by dragging it with the mouse)

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: misc queries

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 01:28 PM 1/03/2001 -0800, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said: At 10:23 PM 3/1/01 +0200, Stefan Zwahlen wrote: ..snip.. 3 When one clicks on a component or symbol it allways moves WITHOUT dragging connected wires. Is there a way to drag by default without having to go via menues or shortcuts?

Re: [PEDA] AW: [PROTEL EDA USERS]:BOM

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
stuffing up your service pack installations. Should fix your problem. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the reply command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe

[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: PCB Arcs (Ex: Schematic arc problems)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
deleted from a PCB? In a number of cases where I had this phantom connection I do not recall using arcs in that area but maybe I had. Can you give more details on this please? This would be a worthwhile bug to try to track down. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Schematic part fields still revert to* in SP6

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 03:25 PM 2/03/2001 -0800, Drew Lundsten said: I ran into this problem with pre-SP5 (SP2) on a Win98 box. I have been using SP5/W2K for 6 months and recently moved to SP6; no designs since SP5/W2K have had this sort of problem. Has anyone seen this behavior on SP6/W2K? Drew Lundsten[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Schematic arc problems

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 03:09 PM 5/03/2001 -0700, Eric Albach said: There are two ways to delete an object. One is to select it and the clear the selection. Select and clear is the only reliable way to for me to delete an arc. I just tried it and I found no problems using single-clicks to cause arcs both large

[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Give up,there is no point (Ex: Confused Newbie on Footprints)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:10 AM 6/03/2001 +1100, John Haddy said: By definition, 1 inch = 25.4mm exactly. This was standardised some decades ago. It's when rounded numbers are used that problems occur. Cheers, John Haddy Off topic a little... But the metre (and hence inch) are derived quantities (variables) so

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Schematic arc problems

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 03:57 PM 5/03/2001 -0700, Eric Albach said: After much fiddling with schematic arcs I found part of the problem and solution. The problem is only with Circles, not partial circles (arcs). When creating a circle using the mouse the default Start Angle and End Angle are both set to 0 (certain

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Schematic arc problems

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
. At 10:38 AM 3/6/01 +1100, Ian Wilson wrote: It is a bug - 0 to 0 should either display as an invisible arc or be identical in behavior to 0 to 360 (I prefer the latter). It should not display as per 0 to 360 but behave differently. Both a zero length track and a zero length arc should display

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Representing Distances (ex ConfusedNewbie on Footprints)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 01:52 PM 7/03/2001 +1100, Geoff Harland said: Using 2/3 of an inch or .67 of an inch, its obvious which one is the more accurate. Maybe fractions rather than rounded decimals used in conversions would allow better accuracy. Clive Broome In other words, rational numbers (i.e. the

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Importing OrCAD Libraries

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
padstacks. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the reply command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web

Re: [PEDA] Footprints

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 11:21 AM 9/03/2001 -0800, Phillip Welsh said: I am a new user with Protel. I finally found out how to make my own footprints with the wizard. But I have a three-conductor 3.5mm Phone jack for headphones I can't find the footprint for. There is a figure for it in the schematic libraries

Re: [PEDA] Modifying the Schematic PCB.

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 07:28 PM 10/03/2001 -0500, Brian Guralnick said: I though I did direct this email to the developer list. Also, I did not get my own message back like I'm used to. Has the forum email addresses, or subject line header changed? _ Brian Guralnick The forum admin has swapped

[PEDA] Not receiving your own mail (Ex: Modifying the Schematic PCB.)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 07:28 PM 10/03/2001 -0500, Brian Guralnick said: ...snip... Also, I did not get my own message back like I'm used to. ...snip... _ Brian Guralnick There is new capability in the new list servers - one is the ability to *not* receive your own posts to the lists. I was wondering

[PEDA] New server - set tespoint state of selected pads/vias

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
G'Day, The Protel Users file area has a new server. This server allows you to set the testpoint state of selected pads and vias. There is no on-line help so keep this email if you want to use it. (Geoff Harland please don't hassle me about this - you are good at documenting your servers I

Re: [PEDA] Modifying the Schematic PCB.

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 04:04 PM 10/03/2001 -0500, Brian Guralnick said: Hi, I was wondering if it was possible to modify the schematic PCB? I noticed on Protel's site, they talk about making a server for the design explorer. I'm interested in adding some additional coordinates to be displayed on the status

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE SP5 ... strange access vio errors ...

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
. Maybe something here will help - but please do not *expect* this group to solve your problems. We are a group of Protel users - we are *not* Protel. Ian Wilson Considered Solutions Pty Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ABN: 96 088 410 002 5

Re: [PEDA] ON

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:33 PM 10/03/2001 -0800, Jim Mcgrath said: repro proteledaforum on To get your own mail being sent to you, you must send the request to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (not the forum) with the command in the body of the message: repro proteledaforum on Ian * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Strange behavior on unconnected pins

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
will not get errors as you describe. So a bottom side surface mount component will not be flagged as fouling with a top side through-hole component and visa-versa. Ian Wilson Fabe Guigne International Limited Paradise, Newfoundland * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post

Re: [PEDA] Copy from/to PCB

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:18 AM 13/03/2001 +0100, Rudolf Schaffer said: Hello, One more time i'm searching for help! -1- I have a prototype PCB1 totally routed. -2- I want to copy a region with connected components from PCB1 into a new design.(with 100% loaded components and netlist) -3- How to proceed?

Re: [PEDA] Protel default Vcc hidden power pins

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 12:32 PM 14/03/2001 -0800, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said: At 08:29 AM 3/14/01 +, Coleman, Tim wrote: With regard to power pins on multiple part components(or even large single part components like a uP or memory). We create a 'power part' that has just the power pins and any NC pins. This

Re: [PEDA] Strange behavior on unconnected pins

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
, click Class Generator - take it from there. Never tried it myself. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html

Re: [PEDA] Use Pad Stack

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
is not multilayer. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body

Re: [PEDA] MM's VS Mils

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
of the odd rounding error - 95.0001mm is near enough to 95.0 for me. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html

Re: [PEDA] Protel Port/Hierarchy Checker Program Available

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
group but I am not sure if non-members can upload files. (They may only be able to download files.) This users group file area is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/ You should of course zip the file(s). Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Spread sheet woes

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
on the sheet columns. You just need to be aware that the ImportFromDatabase process takes forever and gives no status indication whatsoever. Cheers, John Haddy -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2001 8:52 AM To: Protel EDA Forum

Re: [PEDA] MM's VS Mils

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
do me as well. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave

Re: [PEDA] Netlist will not load

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
that Protel should do - may be we could get Protel tech support to undertake this testing and reply to us. Come on CSC can you do this work and tell us what, if anything, we can do to improve netlist load times. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message

[PEDA] Sim: Temp can't be set less than 0 deg C

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
to go haywire after that (but it may not be related). The sim crashed when I set the circuit temp to 273 (just testing to see if TEMP is in kelvin). (A note on this has been shot off to Protel support.) Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message

Re: [PEDA] Questions about upgrading to 99SE

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 12:13 PM 22/03/2001 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support said: My question is: do I have to install the old Protel software on my new PC before I install the 99SE upgrade? No. Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To

Re: [PEDA] Printing schematics

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
At 09:47 AM 23/03/01 +0100, you wrote: will not now the names of these sheets. 2) You can save the sheet that will contain the subsheets in the ASCII file format. With an editor you can open these file and you will see the definitions of the subsheets somewhere in

[PEDA] Long lag times - anyone else?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
Is anyone else seeing very long lag times? I posted some stuff that is taking hours to get through. Could be my mail server I s'pose but everyone else I have posted to has received it in good time. Is the system going OK for everyone else? I tried the auto-test system status and there was

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99 SE / SP5 ... dead ... won't run ... nightmare ...help

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
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[PEDA] Temperature of simulations (Ex: Long lag times - anyone else?)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
So I do not incur the wrath of the Forum Admin I put in this P99SE snippet: P99SE Simulator - As I have previously stated the simulator does not allow the SPICE TEMP variable to be set less than 0. I have confirmed that adding a text frame to the schematic with the first line .NSX (see the

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99 SE / SP5 ... dead ... won't run ... nightmare ...help

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
At 06:16 PM 22/03/01 -0600, you wrote: Under Windows NT4 have been running Protel 99 SE with SP5 for months. No problems. stuff snipped... One more thing to try (see previous post). Download SP6 and install that. bye for now, Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Irregular pad shapes in Protel

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 11:05 AM 26/03/2001 +0100, Cliff Lawrence said: Hi all, Is there any way of storing irregular or custom pad shapes / definitions in Protel. I often have a requirement for placing odd shaped pads on footprints and it would be nice if they could be directly placed from the Place menu rather than

Re: [PEDA] Irregular pad shapes in Protel and How do you get fill s toassume net

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
designs to a cra. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Creating Assembly Drawings

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
in file size and slow down in redraw. Everything would be exported as 0 thickness and pads/vias etc would not be filled (just arcs showing the copper annulus and hole size). Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] Schematic Diode to PCB errors

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
set of libraries. You will rapidly get to a point where you are only creating a new symbol/footprint occasionally. (I use A/K, C/E/B, D/G/S, etc for my sch symbols pin numbers.) Ian Wilson On 04:27 PM 3/04/2001 -0600, Eric Albach said: I've been having minor errors doing a schematic to PCB

Re: [PEDA] Fills marked Keepout

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
the PCB edge onto the used plane layers (see Paste Special command) and fatten up to say 50 mils is usually enough. Deal with any special features such as break-off tabs etc to ensure the copper plane is pulled back from them. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Bug - Move Selection (and flipping layers) SP6

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 09:50 AM 6/04/2001 +0200, Aalt Lokhorst said: Ian Wrote: Hello Ian, Now I understand what you mean. I see the 'hooroo' greeting as long as i can remember so i was wondering how it was possible that such an Protel expert did not know about the redraw 'End' key. I should know better before

Re: [PEDA] Update schematics from library editor does'nt work

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
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[PEDA] Bug - Move Selection (and flipping layers) SP6

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
are heading into unknown territory. Protel have been informed and can replicate the issue. Hopefully this will be a SP7 fix. hooroo, Ian Wilson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave

Re: [PEDA] Creating Assembly Drawings

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
made my dimensioning and export-to-industrial-designers life much easier and more accurate. As well as making my mech CAD program fly. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http

Re: [PEDA] Solder Paste (further suggestion added)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
the suggestion(s) clear.) Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body

Re: [PEDA] Update PCB from SCH bug?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 02:59 PM 6/04/2001 -0700, Dwight Harm said: Not a bug -- It relates to what folders the PCBs are in, in relation to the schematic... 1) If there's only one PCB in the same folder as the current schematic, there's no board prompt at all. (My usual arrangement -- so I was surprised that some

Re: [PEDA] Bus nets

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
to implement - it is along the lines of something I requested (verbally) many years ago. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html

Re: [PEDA] Solder Paste

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 04:00 PM 6/04/2001 +0200, Ben Uytenhaak said: Hello, I think this is the solution to your problem: 1) place the pad 2) double click on the pad 3) check the Past Mask Override checkbox 4) enter value higher than half the pads x- and/or y-size 5) click ok If I'm not correct please somebody else

Re: [PEDA] Solder Paste (further suggestion added)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 09:37 AM 9/04/2001 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ian Wilson wrote: On 04:11 PM 6/04/2001 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Solder masks are treated like power planes in Protel. The same applies to paste masks. Anything you place on these layers shows up negativ on the board. Place a fill

Re: [PEDA] Updating footprints in a project.

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
the magi-handle I think). Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] Solder Paste (further suggestion added)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
/robot applicator/whatever rather than the resultant mounds of paste on the board. It never struck me to consider it your way but neither is wrong. For me the paste mask layer is a negative layer since I think I am designing a screen. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Bus nets

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
worth looking into. Personally, I disagree that it is worth looking into - I think it can only take Protel further from improving the visibility of the design. Ian Wilson Considered Solutions Pty Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ABN: 96 088

Re: [PEDA] Creating custom design rules?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 05:06 PM 10/04/2001 -0600, Gladieux, Jed said: Does anyone know how to create new design rules. For example, I would like to flag instances where component outlines on the silkscreen layers overlap. I got bit by this on a very busy board and wound up with 2 components physically interfering

Re: [PEDA] Creating custom design rules?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
model. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave

Re: [PEDA] Creating custom design rules?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
solder mask width (a bit like checking for internal plane connectivity) 2) Overlay near pads (as you mentioned) 3) others bye for now, Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit

Re: [PEDA] Creating custom design rules?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
, does not have the full check mode and it doesn't have the same method of setting component clearance. Anyway P99SE should go someway to trapping your problem. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join

Re: [PEDA] Bus nets

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
a bus entry (just need to sort out the net label text alignment issues). I don't like these suggestions as much as simply allowing busses to support more complex naming or a new net collections entity that interfaced to sch net classes and rules. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Legend string problem

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
mailing list due to the web accessible archive with fixed URLs for stored messages. We are still waiting for a web accessible archive for this list The list owner or administrator may care to update us on progress. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] importing DWG files

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
the measurement format (correctly). SolidWorks is one program whose output I have needed to massage in the past. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com

Re: [PEDA] Possible Protel Win2K conflict. (And use of Reply-To)

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
On 11:51 AM 30/04/2001 -0700, Dwight Harm said: Interesting... I had never tried that function before, but it does FAIL on my machine that has P99SEsp6 installed, and works on two other machines w/o Protel, but there are a lot of other differences between the machines. Work for me - I do not see

Re: [PEDA] Multiple net names - how does Protel pick one?

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
annotations to simply document additional information as you wish. I have a question though - how does multiple netnames and a scope of Nets and Ports Global make a sch more legible? Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] two monitors - lack of archive

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
otherwise the archive takes up about 25% more space than it need. In essence there is no archive and even though users have been baying for one for ages and some (me) have done various cludges we still do not have one after much waiting. All other mailing lists I am on have an archive. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Protel Problems

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
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Re: [PEDA] Schematics to Netlist Integrity question.

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
). If they move then they are considered connected otherwise the system has not made the connection. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers

Re: [PEDA] Finding Setting Test Points

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
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Re: [PEDA] Strange SP6 library file dates

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
library documents contained in the DDB, just the DDB itself. I thought this artefact of the MS-Access Jet DB engine is one reason the DDB file can be a pain for those using CVS and similar systems for managing sch/pcb/libs. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Irregular pad shapes in Protel and How do you get fill s toassume net

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
- in all cases. 2) prevent the autorouter from ripping up copper tracks that are part of a component. (Component copper fills are not ripped up.) Ian Wilson ___ Considered Solutions Pty Ltd 5 The Crescent, Chatswood, NSW, 2067 Australia Ph: +61-2-9411-4248 Fx: +61-2

Re: [PEDA] template graphics - includes new suggestion

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Wilson
file not found. So it can find the graphic embedded in the DDB but it can't use the OLE wrapped file - maybe. This is a pain. Protel should correct this oversight and come up with a sensible method of distributing graphics embedded in the DOTs and SCHs. Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] How do I unlock component strings ?

2001-07-08 Thread Ian Wilson
garbled responses - how you do not end up excessively confused... Ian Wilson At 02:57 PM 9/07/01 +1000, you wrote: Greetings all, How do I unlock component strings ? I didn't even know they could be locked. I am editing a legacy design using 99SE+SP6 (somebody else started

Re: [PEDA] Select Copy Bug?

2001-07-09 Thread Ian Wilson
an option box to control what entities are included in the expanded selection. Maybe maybe maybe...but not by me at this time (anyway), anyone else want a go? Ian Wilson On 02:37 PM 9/07/2001 +0200, Joop Reekers said: Hi All, I stumbled on a problem, trying to copy a part of a PCB design

Re: [PEDA] How do I unlock component strings ?

2001-07-09 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:28 AM 10/07/2001 +1000, Linden Doyle said: OKgot it now! Saving as an ASCII (V2.8) file as per Ian's recommendation but couldn't find the record that corresponded to the locked (or other) attributes. It works if you save as an ASCII V3 format (not V2.8 format) - then you will see all

Re: [PEDA] Off topic / Need formula to calculate F in Mhz Wave length.

2001-07-11 Thread Ian Wilson
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Re: [PEDA] (re)Annotation weirdness when using suffix

2001-07-11 Thread Ian Wilson
the manufacturing documentation in existence that means we do not want to monkey will all the designators - just as few as possible. But do not read any of this as saying the bug is not an important one to fix.) Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto

Re: [PEDA] New on-line PCB quoting service for Protel 99 SE

2001-07-11 Thread Ian Wilson
they added a feature (h) that you don't have to use. Or are you already marginal on Protel, have an alternative and this is the last straw? If so what alternative package - I am interested? Ian Wilson Ian Wilson ___ Considered Solutions Pty Ltd 5

Re: [PEDA] (re)Annotation weirdness when using suffix

2001-07-11 Thread Ian Wilson
At 02:35 PM 11/07/01 -0700, you wrote: At 09:43 PM 7/11/01 +1000, Ian Wilson wrote: Does sound like a bug - I will await other comments before adding it to the bug database. I suppose someone will try to call it a feature... It's not a bug, in my opinion, but neither is it a feature. The lack

Re: [PEDA] New on-line PCB quoting service for Protel 99 SE

2001-07-11 Thread Ian Wilson
Abdulrahman, you wrote: ..snip.. If the program does *not* function as a server and contains no code that would allow it to do so (i.e., it has been reviewed to ensure that it is not a trojan horse -- even a reputable company could supply such without knowing it), and it only sends

Re: [PEDA] Trace jumpers generate DRC violations

2001-07-12 Thread Ian Wilson
that you cannot be sure the short occurs in the area you want. Since it can't do this I have never investigated if the rule actually works. I for one have been asking for better scopes on the Allow Short Circuits rule since the very first time Protel introduced the rules based system. Ian Wilson

[PEDA] 20H rule, Planes etc (Ex: perimeter stitched ground vias question)

2001-07-12 Thread Ian Wilson
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[PEDA] The Synchronizer - The Low Down

2001-07-16 Thread Ian Wilson
on this forum some months ago.) You do not need to take just my word for this - http://www.protel.com.au/earticles/design_synchronization.htm Rant mode over and out, Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave

Re: [PEDA] Which library is used in UpdatePCB

2001-07-16 Thread Ian Wilson
wires here? I do not like adding things to the bug database unless they are clearly bugs. Bye for now, Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers

Re: [PEDA] Bug when opening Protel

2001-07-17 Thread Ian Wilson
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Re: [PEDA] synchronizer question

2001-07-17 Thread Ian Wilson
synch'ed throughout the design, I think you will find the design flow much better. If you use the Synchronizer it is important that you make the component matches correctly - the is initially done by designator. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post

Re: [PEDA] irregular shaped holes ??

2001-07-18 Thread Ian Wilson
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Re: [PEDA] caution with move ddb path

2001-07-19 Thread Ian Wilson
promise I am not emotionally attached to it.) Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:55 PM 24/07/2001 -0700, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said: As I stated, I do prefer that we move this discussion to the new list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may prefer but the vast majority if people responding do not want another mail list it seems... Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Test point tenting on side opposite TP

2001-07-27 Thread Ian Wilson
is a huge boon 2) full control of layer and tenting 3) testpoints can usually be located off vias (which one board stuffer has informed us is their preference where possible as it reduces the incidence of via barrels damaged by test probes). Ian Wilson

Re: [PEDA] Wanna see your board from the bottom? (New server)

2001-07-31 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:21 AM 1/08/2001 +1000, Thomas said: Having trouble obtaining the file from the location specified (Host not found). Wouldn't even find http://www.considered.com.au As someone else has reported that it works for them, I suspect it's because our firewall is tighter than a fishes bum. Would

Re: [PEDA] Wanna see your board from the bottom? (New server)

2001-07-31 Thread Ian Wilson
Some things that could be better with the CSFlipView server: 1) Optionally be able to restrict the stuff that is flipped to just the PCB client window. Messy to program as I would need to track when the PCB window is no longer active 2) Fix the occasional bug where having the flip window open

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