Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Confused Newbie on Footprints

2001-05-07 Thread Mike Ingle
I strongly reccomend that you get a sample part from the manufacturer and measure it yourself. Also if their documentation is confilcting, a call wouldn't hurt. Mike -Original Message- From: TSListServer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Duane Hague Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Printing to PDF...

2001-05-07 Thread Mike Ingle
I have found that the efax writer also works well within workgroups (unfortunately you must have the efax software to read it and more people have acrobat. -Original Message- From: Eric Albach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 1:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [PEDA] need a work around for the 100 sq in restriction

2001-05-07 Thread Mike Ingle
Just a thought, but could you scale all the footprints 1:2 and use 1/2 size traces. Then ask your board shop to plot 2:1? -Original Message- From: Mark E Witherite [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 11:29 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] need a work around

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: test: my posts make it to the forum,right?

2001-05-07 Thread Mike Ingle
I received this. -Original Message- From: TSListServer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Drew Lundsten Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers Subject: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: test: my posts make it to the forum, right? For some reason

[PEDA] sp6 installed?

2001-05-07 Thread Mike Ingle
I installed sp6 a while back, and could never get it to say includes sp6. The program loads w thhe message includes sp5. help says ver 6.5.2 Mike -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 8:46 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re:

Re: [PEDA] Memory Error

2001-05-07 Thread Mike Ingle
Myabe I'm not doing the same things, but I work w/ very large files, and have never had Protel crash since getting rid of my ATI video card, and replacing it w/ a Matrox. I run P99se sp6 (now) on a kt-7 raid 1ghz athalon mainboard w/ 384M memory and a matrox g200 agp video card. I use the

Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.

2001-08-07 Thread Mike Ingle
Hyperlynx sells a signal integrity/emi tool that is supposed to be great. I Use it before layout only, to set trace widths and look at signals vs diferent termination schemes. I have yet to successfully use the signal integrity tools in Protel. They don't seem, to be its shining star. The

Re: [PEDA] IGNORE COMP LIB ACCESS POST

2001-08-14 Thread Mike Ingle
Just a note on this, I kept getting burned by version ocntrol, as you change filenames to save back old versions, the library files stay with the old filename until you update the pointer. I have finally decided to have a design file which is only for libraries, and not include library files

Re: [PEDA] Spam trawlers in this group

2001-08-27 Thread Mike Ingle
I am getting it. I am not subscribed to PCD mag. I am also on embedded linux and LART groups. -Original Message- From: Andrew J Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 4:43 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Spam trawlers in this group On 04:27 PM

[PEDA] virtual short on power plane

2001-09-13 Thread Mike Ingle
else I should do? Thanks, Mike Ingle Ancore -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:11 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEDA] (small unrelated bug found) (ex: Mechanikal Layers are disappearing) On 03

[PEDA] keep out around op-amp input.

2001-09-14 Thread Mike Ingle
clear of the poly-plane, but causes DRC errors. is there a more correct way to do this? Mike ingle Ancore -Original Message- From: Colby Siemer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:04 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Graphic cards and performance

Re: [PEDA] Windows 2000

2001-09-25 Thread Mike Ingle
I don't remember the specifics, but until I installed sp2 for win2k I had problems. Mike -Original Message- From: Ron Tupa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers Subject: [PEDA] Windows 2000 Just loaded

Re: [PEDA] how to kill a spice simulation

2001-10-30 Thread Mike Ingle
there is a stop button with a white hand that is on the tooldbar of the simulation display. Mike -Original Message- From: Ken Henrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 6:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEDA] how to kill a spice simulation Hi all, Does

Re: [PEDA] how to kill a spice simulation

2001-10-30 Thread Mike Ingle
gone to be able to do anything... ctrl-alt-del -Original Message- From: Mike Ingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 2:37 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] how to kill a spice simulation there is a stop button with a white hand

[PEDA] router settings

2001-11-26 Thread Mike Ingle
Unless there is some reason not to can the reply be posted so the rest of us might benefit from the recommended router settings? My other question here, is why wouldn't the reply have been posted here in the first place? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[PEDA] interactive routing doesn't route more than 1 route at a time before it exits interactive routing

2001-11-26 Thread Mike Ingle
Interactive routing used to allow me to continue on a new route by right mouse clicking. Now it exits interactive routing after each trace. Does anyone know how to return to normal operation. Mike * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Multiple Subcircuits

2001-11-27 Thread Mike Ingle
I reccomend this approach also, Although I cannot verify the mentioned server, since I wrote my own server to do this. I never bothered to make it portable, and never could get it to work on a second machine that didn't have the sdk installed. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] R: First announcement of Phoenix by Altium

2001-12-05 Thread Mike Ingle
It looks to me like the logical answer here is: We get all of the features of ATS EXCEPT free upgrade to next version. And on purchase of the upgrade we receive all of the features. They want there money for the next release. Which while I wish it were different, I actually think is

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99 se SP4 on Windows XP Home

2002-01-07 Thread Mike Ingle
While in general agreement that I am not interested in moving to XP, one is faced with the fact that almost all new PCs come with it. Thus usres buying partticularly name brand PCs are going to be faced with using XP, or coming up with an old license for win 2k (my preference). I hate that

[PEDA] recovery using backup files

2002-01-26 Thread Mike Ingle
My daughter accidentally turned off my Protel computer, and when I re-opened my design, a couple days work were gone. I have successfully imported the PCB from the backup directory. It now has a new name though. I am hoping to recover the sch files I had changed also, but would like to keep

Re: [PEDA] recovery using backup files follow up

2002-01-28 Thread Mike Ingle
not move back up, nor was the hiearchy displayed in the explorer. I closed and re-opened. No change. Finally I ran an ERC, and this fixed the hiearchy. Mike -Original Message- From: Mike Ingle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 11:01 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject

Re: [PEDA] Writing messages all day . . PLEASE stop!

2002-02-19 Thread Mike Ingle
JaMi, No, I don't have to be reading this thread, but I have, and as such, I find it offensive that someone who sounds very disgruntled, has chosen this list to vent in. Mr lomax has been of enourmous benefit to me as an engineer who must occasionally do a layout using PROTEL. Both from a

Re: [PEDA] RF footprints

2002-02-20 Thread Mike Ingle
I place a split plane with a 1 mil (or smaller) border. Then I trace around the border with a track on the plane of the desired width (50 mil). I leave an opening where I want it (say under the ADC for example). Effectively this shors there and still passes DRC. Mike -Original

Re: [PEDA] results of performance problems

2002-02-21 Thread Mike Ingle
Are you really running w95? I suppose you may have noticed that w2k is the currently preferred base OS for PROTEL. Although who can take a few days off to reintall eberything and get it working. Mike -Original Message- From: Bob Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,

Re: [PEDA] PCB view from bottom of board??

2002-02-22 Thread Mike Ingle
Re doing it w/ Gerbers... I haven't watched this whole (hole ;) ) thread, so I hope I am not being redundant. Anyway, You can quickly mirror the bottom layer in CAMTASTIC. I have never bothered to print from CAMTASTIC, but it looks to be capable. I will be printing the mirrored layer

Re: [PEDA] Printing in 3D View mode

2002-02-25 Thread Mike Ingle
Mine prints OK. Setup 99SE sp6 w2k printer postscript (qms colorscript 1000 level 2, actually a printer hooked to a LINUX box running ghostscript) Mike -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:41 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc:

Re: [PEDA] Software for Isolation Milling

2002-02-28 Thread Mike Ingle
A secoond reply, with the cost of double sided plated through boards so loww, I wouldn't mess w/ the milling machine. Unless of coarse you are doing an iterative RF design. Mike -Original Message- From: Florian Finsterbusch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002

Re: [PEDA] Trying to trace junk mail listing.

2002-03-01 Thread Mike Ingle
I also got it. -Original Message- From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:14 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Trying to trace junk mail listing. Has anyone else here got mail from e-teknet? I've been especially careful, but, somehow,

Re: [PEDA] 3D views of PCB?

2002-03-03 Thread Mike Ingle
FOR 99SE SP6 bottom of the explorer box is a outline of a PC card. grab it with your cursor and drag it to rotate. I prefer to check the axis constraint box. Mike -Original Message- From: Leonard Gabrielson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 2:02 PM To: PROTELEDA

Re: [PEDA] 3D views of PCB?

2002-03-03 Thread Mike Ingle
Works well on my Matrox G200. Abiet slow. Mike -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 3:04 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] 3D views of PCB? Use the little window to the left of the main window. When you put the

Re: [PEDA] controlled impedance traces ?

2002-03-04 Thread Mike Ingle
In use Hyperlynx line sim to calculate impedance from stackup, trace width, copper thickness, plating thickness, dielectric constant. There are good write-ups with tables/equations in the LVDS section of the national semi website. Regarding Advanced circuits: I believe I have read something

Re: [PEDA] simcode

2002-05-25 Thread mike ingle
I use the simcode with success usually. I previously used PSpice, but find that hte PROTEL spice is good as far as the simulations go. I sure miss the probes though. I am finding that with experience I can get the same info from PROTEL, but that it is harder to learn. Mike - Original

Re: [PEDA] simcode

2002-05-26 Thread mike ingle
The online help. Also when tring to add components, I looked at how PROTEL had done it with supported components. Try one of the demo simulations. Mike - Original Message - From: Ken Henrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 6:39 PM

Re: [PEDA] Protel PLD/CUPL Question

2002-06-11 Thread mike ingle
I would consider the PLD section of PROTEL a dead design tool. I would either use the free wincupl or go to a commercial compiler from one of the big boys. Mike Using altera parts and Max plus 2 - Original Message - From: matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEDA] Anyone know of a Altera listserver? and Single/Dual CPU

2002-07-01 Thread mike ingle
Compilation timess are getting too slow on my pokey old 1Ghz Athalon ;) I use the same computer for Protel and Max plus II. . As I understand it Protel is not multi-threaded, and does not benefit much from dual cpu Altera apps claims they all use dual cpu units. They also claimed that

Re: [PEDA] Anyone know of a Altera listserver? and Single/Dual CPU

2002-07-02 Thread mike ingle
Ok, So it seems that the consensus here is that twin CPU machines are desireable. I am in a quandry because the goal here truly is to maximize productivity. So, what influences my productivity? Right now I am in a max plus II design cycle where I am waiting on compiles for up to 10 min.

Re: [PEDA] PPC to word insertion

2002-07-10 Thread mike ingle
I reccomend adobe acrobat for pcb files. However, version 4 on w2000 sp2 does not work on sch files. For those I use efax. For low cost if you subsribe to efax, you can use their prit driver/display software to export to tiff or jpeg. Does anyone know if acrobat 5 works with sch files? Mike

Re: [PEDA] Fastest possible Protel system, price is not a concern.

2002-07-21 Thread Mike Ingle
I would guess that your money on Protel would go the furthest with a lower cost motherboard and LOTS of memory and plenty of display space. Cut those pans. dual display?? triple display ??matrox g550 is working nicely here on 2 diplays. My point being if you are manually laying out, I wouldn't

[PEDA] Matrox = bad ??? g550 ??

2002-07-24 Thread Mike Ingle
I must have missed the thread on the new Matrox Para card. Did look at it briefly, after I upgraded to my current system (dual 2ghz athalon, matrox g550 1g ddr) Works great so far, but I have only briefly perused old designs in Protel right now I am heavy into the embedded Linux and FPGA

Re: [PEDA] Protel clone on the way?!?!?!

2002-09-10 Thread Mike Ingle
I purchased Auto-Trax from Protel along with The initial windows schematic software. Way back when they were in Santa Clara Ca. Mike riginal Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:25 AM Subject:

[PEDA] 1000V HV clearance.

2002-10-08 Thread Mike Ingle
I have a quick turn pcb with 1000V @ app 1ma max. What trace/plane separation is required for UL/CE? Mike * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html

[PEDA] paste array

2002-10-08 Thread Mike Ingle
Within the PCB editor, I have found that paste-special, component class selected, paste array results in correctly producing an array of component footprints with proper designators. Is it possible to lay-out one channel, and paste an array and have the net labels be handled in an acceptable

Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down?

2002-11-07 Thread Mike Ingle
#6. Definitely not dxp here.. Mike - Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down? Yeah, message traffic has been slow for me too. Could

Re: [PEDA] Switch Mode Model

2003-03-13 Thread mike ingle
Can't help with the Protel model, but Linear tech has a free simulator for most of their parts which I found very useful. Mike - Original Message - From: Dennis Gibson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel Tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: [PEDA] Switch Mode

Re: [PEDA] 99SE on win2k running slow

2003-06-17 Thread Mike Ingle
I am not positive, but I believe you can install/reinstall a win2k service pack (2?) and it will replace your data access components. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:39 AM Subject: [PEDA] 99SE on win2k running slow

Re: [PEDA] Simulation Data

2003-07-03 Thread Mike Ingle
I would like the script. This has been an issue for me too. Mike - Original Message - From: J rg Guttmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:07 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Simulation Data Hello John as far as I know, there is no such

Re: [PEDA] Simulation component

2003-07-09 Thread Mike Ingle
email me a text spice file, and I will make you the simulation component - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:31 AM Subject: [PEDA] Simulation component Hi, I am trying to create a simulation component

Re: [PEDA] Simulation component

2003-07-10 Thread Mike Ingle
Dave, If you place the library siov.lib in the protel\lib\sim\ecos (you must create the ecos directory) then you will be able to use the siov component wih the part name specified as S20K275 (as on sch) or whichever component you want. The gotcha here is that I tried to make the simulation

[PEDA] sierra proto express

2003-10-15 Thread Mike Ingle
We are considering using sierra proto express for some 1 day turn 6 layer boards (5 5 design rules, controlled impedance, fineline bga) Has anyone on the list used them, and to what success? Is their qualty acceptable? Mike * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To

Re: [PEDA] NetMeeting

2003-10-30 Thread Mike Ingle
I have not tried net meeting, but timbuktu used to crash pretty easily. They both work as video drivers I assume, and PROTEL does seem to be pretty hard on video drivers. Not a lot of help for your problem, other than doubts about its feasability. Mike - Original Message - From: Michael

[PEDA] pick and place report

2003-11-22 Thread Mike Ingle
Hi all, This job will be my first where a pick and place machine is used. I have some confusion regarding bottom side components. How do people generally handle the pick and place report? Do you re-orient the results so that X is increasing facing the bottom of the board (so that the bottom

[PEDA] Testpoint report.ipc

2003-12-02 Thread Mike Ingle
For the first time I sent along the testpoint report.ipc. Even after carefully re-generating my cam files, my boardhouse (Sierra Proto Express) claimed that my gerbers didn't match. What is up? How can I verify prior top sending my files? Is the testpoint report useful? Mike PS what has

Re: [PEDA] Getting a polygone pour out of the way for updates

2003-12-10 Thread Mike Ingle
Cool! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:04 AM Subject: [PEDA] Getting a polygone pour out of the way for updates I just wanted to share a tip for a difficulty that I've seen discussed here many times, just an

Re: [PEDA] Getting a polygone pour out of the way for updates

2003-12-15 Thread Mike Ingle
Sorry to say, it made PCB editing sluggish, followed by a crash (99SE win2k, RADEON 9000 dual 1600x1200, 1gb mem, 2.6ghz Athalon). Mike Ingle - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Getting a polygone