Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Pin-type power - why?

2001-05-07 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Rob Malos wrote: Steve, Just a word of warning, No-ERC markers will conceal ALL errors on the net you mark. This would for example hide the fact that you had tied the power net from your DC-DC converter to GND by accidently placing the wrong power port

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Pin-type power - why?

2001-05-07 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, David W. Gulley wrote: If you are designing a power component (e.g. packaged DC-DC converter) with multiple power pins and define them as output, then you get an error that multiple output pins are connected. If you define them as input, the net has no driver. I'll

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Library Management

2001-05-07 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Brad Velander wrote: Steve, can't help you with your routing problem, routers are a big mystery to me. Nobody I have worked for has ever had boards that they would trust to, would work with, nor would they shell out for, an autorouter. It depends what you expect

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Library Management

2001-05-07 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Brad Velander wrote: As for your POT symbol/footprint problem, I have seen manufacturer's parts specs that would have fit your symbol pin numbering (pin #3 is wiper). So is the symbol you used wrong? No it was simply not the symbol which you wanted to use. Assume

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Library Management

2001-05-07 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Brad Velander wrote: Steve, I take a different approach to transistor devices. 'Most' follow a normal standard for pins 1,2,3,(4?) so I use this method and over-ride any manufacturers which do not follow the same standard. I stick to the 1,2,3,(4?) based upon

Re: [PEDA] Creating custom design rules?

2001-05-07 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Dennis Saputelli wrote: what is the distance from the silkscreen line to the pad? silkscreen tolerance is not real tight By the time it's 0402, it's dots rather than lines, and they're outside, rather than between, the pads. That's more an 0603 version I've drawn

Re: [PEDA] Creating custom design rules?

2001-05-07 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, John Haddy wrote: I need hand placement for prototypes and a sea of pads without bounding boxes to guide a human is just asking for trouble. So, if I must have overlay present, I don't want it interfering with my placement any more than absolutely necessary. After

[PEDA] (re)Annotation weirdness when using suffix

2001-07-11 Thread Steve Wiseman
Hi, all. Using SE99, SP6, I've got what looks like a bug... I'm annotating a single sheet, which will become part of a bigger project, and I'm annotating using the suffix 'A' to indicate the parts are in the ADSL section. All is well - on first annotation, everything gets R1A, C19A, whatever

Re: [PEDA] (re)Annotation weirdness when using suffix

2001-07-11 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I go for the manual approach suggested by others. Hmm.. Major parts of a design have their own independent ref des series - 100s are power supply section, 200s are CPU, 700s are analog, etc. Within these, major subsections get

Re: [PEDA] (re)Annotation weirdness when using suffix

2001-07-12 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: However, it could be argued that by leaving the re-annotation starting number at 1, which is what was done, the Annotate tool has been forced to do just exactly that, which is why I still consider this a missing feature. It *is* following

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-27 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pin data probably does exist somewhere as a text file or bonding details of die pad location ( in x,y ) to pin number on the package. But for manufacturers to put these into Protel specific format, its not going to happen soon. I don't need

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-27 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, chris mackensen wrote: for example, to get an Excel spreadsheet of pin data, one only has to copy and paste from PDF to Excel (usually through MS-Word, to get the tables correct) Hmm, the massaging this needs normally makes it very painful. I've not tried going

Re: [PEDA] Surface Mount Boards

2001-07-31 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Brad Velander wrote: Norb, my comment would be 0603 is marginally most common over 0805s, but Mark could be correct. Weird values are slightly more available in 0805 than 0603 at the moment. (where weird is E24 and above). I suspect the answer is, whatever you

Re: [PEDA] ERC (schematic) buglet

2001-11-12 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: An example file would help. I'd be willing to look at it. Certainly - incoming... Steve * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: *

Re: [PEDA] Antwort: Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Tim Fifield wrote: Ivan, I'm also interested in what button you push. Same here. I've got Specctra, so I don't care so much about the ARs inability, but I've just convinced a customer of mine to buy Protel so they can do their own maintenance of the board I've just done

Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Hierarchy Model 4

2001-11-21 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of ports for intersheet connections also allow the use of any of the several port cross-reference tools available, although I've found them to be not very useful. The softies who have to read my schematics _love_ the Aspiring

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: Bring back the pin swapping! Gate swapping is not important to me for the reasons Tony mentioned. 'gate' swapping would be handy when laying out respacks - those tiny 4-individual-resistors-inna-0804-package things. It's not much of a

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Lomax I would hesitate to let the pcb routing dictate the FPGA configuration. It has been my experience in the past that this can result in disastrous synthesis. I would suggest that unless you have full control over the FPGA simulation,

Re: [PEDA] Seeking Popular or Standard Footprint for Surface Mount LEDs

2001-11-30 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Frank Gilley wrote: While there surely must be more shapes, sizes, and mountings for LEDs than almost any other component, there are quite a few SMT LEDs available in a variety of standard footprints like 0603, 0805, 1206, 1210, and SOT-23 just to name the more common

Re: [PEDA] Good Dual head video card combination for Protel.

2001-12-21 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Harry Selfridge wrote: After much experimentation, we settled on dual-head Matrox cards. They are very stable, and Matrox is constantly improving the firmware and drivers. Update downloads are available on the Matrox website at reasonably frequent intervals - even

Re: [PEDA] Good Dual head video card combination for Protel.

2001-12-23 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Bob Wolfe wrote: Steve, Your source for danger??? Just a question how it was determined it was really dual proc that causes Matrox dual head problems. All I can offer are some datapoints, since I never got a solution. I've had 4 twin-CPU machines, from P-90 under

Re: [PEDA] Good Dual head video card combination for Protel.

2001-12-26 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Brian Guralnick wrote: If you have SB Lives in those PC, you need a specific SB Live drivers to prevent the crashes. Nope, my SB / GeForce in this machine is rock-solid stable, with uptimes of month+, (although something eventually eats enough Ram that I reboot to clear

Re: [PEDA] Multisheet Problems Updates etc.

2002-01-15 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Perhaps update Schematic from PCB should generate a list of macros just like update in the other direction does. This would be consistent. Then one could choose whether or not to preview changes, or one could edit the change list if desired.

[PEDA] Protell99SE (SP6) missing diagonal pads off gerbers (sometimes) - bug?

2002-02-04 Thread Steve Wiseman
Hi, all... something that's just bitten me on 2 boards in a row - I've got components called shunts, which are just 2-pin components designed to be a way of tying nets together without making them the same net - it's been discussed here many times. All is well, except that, when placed at

Re: [PEDA] Protell99SE (SP6) missing diagonal pads off gerbers (sometimes) - bug?

2002-02-04 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Andrew Ircha wrote: I assume that Viewmate is some kind of Gerber viewing package. Yep, from Lavenir - seems to be well behaved, and is free (but won't save in demo mode). It might be helpful to tell us how many of these shunts you have on the board. 30, of which 9 were

Re: [PEDA] Protell99SE (SP6) missing diagonal pads off gerbers (sometimes) - bug?

2002-02-04 Thread Steve Wiseman
Now, to the present problem. Here is what I suggest. Create a board file with just one of the pads in question. Plot it. Copy the gerber code into a mail to the list. Describe the pad's characteristics fully, also anything which might be relevant from the gerber setups. Unfortunately,

Re: [PEDA] Protell99SE (SP6) missing diagonal pads off gerbers (sometimes) - bug?

2002-02-04 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Sean James wrote: I have parts on a few of my boards that are rotated at 45 degrees. If I use round pads, they photoplot OK. When I tried rectangualr pads, they were drawn with a spiral pattern that looked like a rectangular pad. If you can live with round pads on your

Re: [PEDA] Protell99SE (SP6) missing diagonal pads off gerbers (sometimes) - bug?

2002-02-04 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Jon Elson wrote: You should open a new PCB file, and import the gerbers to it. Then, take a look at the pads in question. Just done it - and no, no pads. It's definitely a problem within Protel, (but easier to visualise in a gerber viewer which can display pads tracks in

Re: [PEDA] Protell99SE (SP6) missing diagonal pads off gerbers (sometimes) - bug?

2002-02-04 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: That's a very small pad, this could be related to the problem. indeed, but being very small isn't a crime... I guess it could be that the pad needs to be rendered with a 1.5 thou track, which might get rounded down to zero (although there's no

Re: [PEDA] Protell99SE (SP6) missing diagonal pads off gerbers (sometimes) - bug?

2002-02-04 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Jon Elson wrote: I think there is a report bugs email address or link on their web site. Yeah, I just couldn't get to www.protel.com this morning... Ho hum... Well, I DO check them this way. I certainly DON'T check EVERY track and pad, just look for wierd stuff, like 1

Re: [PEDA] Protell99SE (SP6) missing diagonal pads off gerbers (sometimes) - bug?

2002-02-05 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Looking at Mr. Wiseman's files, I discover that there is indeed a zero aperture in the RS-274X list. Wondering what the source of this file might be, I looked through the PCB file and found two fiducials with arcs with zero width, used

[PEDA] Operations on no-net features?

2002-02-27 Thread Steve Wiseman
Hi, all... since No Net seems to be treated like any other net name, does anyone know if I can do global ops on No Net features? (f'rinstance, select and delete them). I'm hoping this is just something obvious that I'm missing! I guess this is a similar request to having 'error' as a

Re: [PEDA] Operations on no-net features?

2002-02-27 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Mike Reagan wrote: Yes you can select no net traces, vias and object gloabaly It doesn't seem to work, though... at best, I get all the features that were on the same net, or maybe that are touching... Other no net features aren't matched - I'm confused. Steve * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Operations on no-net features?

2002-02-28 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Here is what Mr. Reagan was talking about. Double-click on a no-net track that is, say, on the top layer. If you don't have a no-net, just put a piece of top layer track down, it will automatically be no-net unless it touches a real net. Yep

Re: [PEDA] Operations on no-net features?

2002-03-01 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Ian Wilson wrote: I have updated the Bug List to include this problem as an update to that reported by Brad V. (Polygons pouring over entities that once had a net). It would seem to be the same problem. Ah - I've just been and read that thread - it does seem to have

Re: [PEDA] Operations on no-net features?

2002-03-01 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: I tested what I wrote before mailing it. I can only think of these possibilities: (1) Mr. Wiseman does not understand what was written and is therefore referring to some other command sequence, (2) his memory is simply faulty and he has not

Re: [PEDA] Query MAnager

2002-03-06 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Dwight Harm wrote: I've used it occassionally. One thing it can do that global edit can't is select by less than or greater than comparisons, I also use it to select all nets of a bus, since the sch - PCB exporter assigns each bus into a handy class. Certainly the

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-13 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: I'm not fond of lower case Ls. There is also a problem with O and zero which is not so easy to solve, unless it is insisted that zero have a slash. I don't suppose anybody's got a non-ambiguous font, have they? (needs to be non-proportional and

Re: [PEDA] hidden fields (maybe)

2002-03-16 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, Robison Michael R CNIN wrote: i altered a pcb by deleting the part types by merely clicking on them on the pcb and spacing in the field under attributes. That's a very odd thing to do - are you just trying to stop them showing on your PCB? If so, then globally hiding

Re: [PEDA] Barred (active low) text

2002-04-29 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: I don't use the bar anymore (NOT drinking humor). It is not portable. That is, you can't see it in a netlist, and you can't use it in [insert your favorite HDL here]. Why not use '#', '-', or 'n' as a prefix for negative-logic signals?

[PEDA] Bottom components with 'top' attribute set.

2002-07-24 Thread Steve Wiseman
, since I didn't notice the failure until I'd shipped the gerbers... Cheers, Steve Wiseman * Tracking #: 1EC96C0AD632D142B7623D0D303E60BE1BA37891

Re: [PEDA] Bottom components with 'top' attribute set.

2002-07-24 Thread Steve Wiseman
don't know how to mend it... (Hmm, can I export to spread, change those attributes, and re-import? The help file isn't any use...) Steve Wiseman * Tracking #: F6BE45961F20414BB7F39312B699BA9F3A5BD4F9

Re: [PEDA] Bottom components with 'top' attribute set.

2002-07-24 Thread Steve Wiseman
24/07/2002 12:17:08, Paul Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are your Library parts built with the pads on the top or the bottom? Good call, but no, they're on the top. I use these parts on both sides of the boards - the ones on top are fine. Having failed to reproduce this on a trivial board,

Re: [PEDA] Bottom components with 'top' attribute set.

2002-07-24 Thread Steve Wiseman
... Cheers, Steve Wiseman * Tracking #: 9C9EB45616681F468981AF48196066F37CFE85C3 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post

Re: [PEDA] Bottom components with 'top' attribute set.

2002-07-24 Thread Steve Wiseman
things to a spread, and made my changes, how do I import it again? I'm sure it's obvious, but I can't find it anywhere... Cheers, Steve Wiseman * Tracking #: C476EE5E7978474885F5C68438166280428E97CC

Re: [PEDA] Bottom components with 'top' attribute set.

2002-07-24 Thread Steve Wiseman
24/07/2002 18:11:48, Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I checked my edits and they did stick, so I don't know yet what it's complaining about. I get an error box saying - No other document is associated with this spreadsheet. Do not close and reopen a spreadsheet before

Re: [PEDA] Bottom components with 'top' attribute set.

2002-07-24 Thread Steve Wiseman
24/07/2002 18:38:31, Steve Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get an error box saying - No other document is associated with this spreadsheet. Do not close and reopen a spreadsheet before performing an Update. Ah - quit and restart Protel, and all is well - the changes work, and stick

Re: [PEDA] Refdes on other Layers

2002-07-25 Thread Steve Wiseman
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Re: [PEDA] Pad and Via clearance compared to PowerPlaneLayer (neg. layer)

2002-07-25 Thread Steve Wiseman
or in external packages. It's also annoying if you want to use it as a net label, as the auto-incrementer wil helpfully make the next one 1.9, which isn't normally what you want. I'd use VDD_1.8V or VDD_CORE, which stays valid even when the process changes and the voltage needs to be lower. Steve

Re: [PEDA] Best PCB Package to use?

2002-07-27 Thread Steve Wiseman
, that turned into a bit of a rant. I wait with interest, to see whether I move fully to DXP, or freeze at 99SE + Specctra, since that combo is good enough to earn a living, and I'm used to its foibles, and can at least get working designs out the door) Steve Wiseman

Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer! !!!

2002-07-31 Thread Steve Wiseman
01/08/2002 21:41:41, vincent mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: autorouters suck . including specctra. they can't even route a ingle sided board decently . they are great for all digital boards. analog noise sensitive precision electronics . no way jose ! True, but Specctra keeps its sticky hands

Re: [PEDA] Polygon Track Spacing

2002-08-29 Thread Steve Wiseman
29/08/2002 22:18:44, Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they probably just went ISO or something :o) More likely, they're suffering from islands of resist detaching and floating around, causing 5 thou gaps wherever they land. I've certainly been asked to avoid similar features

Re: [PEDA] Bizzare and Repeatable

2002-08-30 Thread Steve Wiseman
30/08/2002 17:30:45, Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth, Protel 99SE running on W2K works pretty well, no resource limitations like in W9X. Just don't switch the focus while 99SE is loading! And don't select a non-existent network printer! Seconded - My

Re: [PEDA] P99SESp6 polygons and gerber

2002-09-03 Thread Steve Wiseman
03/09/2002 10:52:41, Schmitt Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Image a track surrounded by a polygon. The track has a 45 degree corner. on the outter side protel(as seen in draft mode) places a short ARC at the corner, but in GERBER (as seen by camtastic) there is a track connected from and to

Re: [PEDA] Address select jumper using 0R links...

2002-09-11 Thread Steve Wiseman
11/09/2002 01:38:15, Damon Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I have a 3 pad PCB footprint and only load a 2 terminal part? Will the PnP generator get confused? I've been known to cheat and place a zero-ohm resistor on top of the (no- fitted) 3-pin jumper. It can be fully described in the

[PEDA] How to select schematic components from the PCB?

2002-09-18 Thread Steve Wiseman
Hi, all - this is going to be trivial, I'm afraid, but I really can't find the answer anywhere... I've got a PCB, and have selected a bunch of components, which I'd like to be able to also select on the schematic, so I can do some global changes. I seem to remember it was possible to pass

Re: [PEDA] How to select schematic components from the PCB?

2002-09-18 Thread Steve Wiseman
18/09/2002 18:29:56, Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you can only do it in the SCH - PCB direction. Ah - that explains it. Shame - it's a feature that would be handy from time to time. Cheers, Steve * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a

Re: [PEDA] How to select schematic components from the PCB?

2002-09-19 Thread Steve Wiseman
19/09/2002 07:41:54, Emanuel Zimmermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you want to select the component or just jump to it in to the schematic? I was hoping for selection - the plan was to be able to update the part fields based on which side of the board a component was on. Just click on

Re: [PEDA] Making of 956 pin SCH component (boring)

2002-09-20 Thread Steve Wiseman
20/09/2002 06:45:18, Rick Wilson (Protta) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure what good it will do now, since the Protel 99SE or DXP programs do not have a Library ASCII in? 99SE certainly has an ASCII library - I used to have a vhdl2lib converter for FPGAs, which generated text files. Steve

Re: [PEDA] PCB component designator orientation

2002-09-24 Thread Steve Wiseman
24/09/2002 02:10:16, Bevan Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This comes about through using the autoplacer to obtain a starting point for component placement (just got too many parts to allow hand placement of every one). Wow - I've never got any use out of the autoplacer. (I generally just use a

Re: [PEDA] Exporting Protel 99SE Library files

2002-10-05 Thread Steve Wiseman
05/10/2002 19:16:27, Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't think you can Er, File - Save As - Format: Advanced Schematic Ascii Library (*.asc) seems to do the job. PCB libraries, I dunno... Steve Peder K. Hellegaard wrote: How do you save/export Protel 99SE library files in

Re: [PEDA] Database maxed !

2002-10-08 Thread Steve Wiseman
08/10/2002 15:22:07, Robison Michael R CNIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'm getting a bit nervous. From what you posted earlier, it sounded like it was having troubles writing the backups, rather than the project itself. If you've got more than one drive

Re: [PEDA] Fiducials

2002-10-14 Thread Steve Wiseman
14/10/2002 18:34:31, Duane Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been placing round 40mil pads (sans hole) in 3 corners of the layout. I enlarge the solder mask clearance and null the paste mask (check the override box and enter -21mil in 99SE). No complaints yet, I have only used fiducials

Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down?

2002-11-09 Thread Steve Wiseman
08/11/2002 23:34:22, Mike Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone mentioned to me several months ago of a company in Ca that offered a GIU interface for Spectra,Does any one out there know the name of that company? Err, what kind of GUI? Specctra seems to come with a pretty useful one

Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down?

2002-11-09 Thread Steve Wiseman
09/11/2002 13:33:55, Mike Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, Short of programming every requirement in Spectra, pairs cant be done easily. Ah- can't help you there... I've not needed to do length equalisation or pairing in Specctra. No doubt, my next project will now force me that way.

Re: [PEDA] Pet Peeve (irritating lost feature)

2003-01-09 Thread Steve Wiseman
09/01/2003 18:21:32, Jeff Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DDB Database/P99SE/SP6/W2k Windows files, but otherwise identical. Are you saying I'm the only one this happens to? Nope - same happens here, and it's very annoying - to the level that sometimes I need to let file - find hunt the files

Re: [PEDA] Cad worthy Plasma screen.

2003-01-15 Thread Steve Wiseman
15/01/2003 22:14:07, Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone seen a CAD worthy Plasma screen? At least an ''authentic'' 1280x1024, or 1600x1200. I have seen a few 28...42 inch plasma screens they all sucked. Yep - not cadworthy... Start saving for this instead.

Re: [PEDA] BGA FootPrints

2003-03-08 Thread Steve Wiseman
The PCB footprint wizard has a BGA option- works nicely. (Open a PCB library, Tools - New component, and follow the guidance) Steve * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: *

Re: [PEDA] Does the DXF Export work???

2003-03-11 Thread Steve Wiseman
11/03/2003 04:05:50, Leonard Gabrielson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor, Well, that's sure better than the results I was getting. I'll go back a revision or two to Acad13 and give that a try. Also, bear in mind, if you're emailing .DXF files around, some mail clients treat them as a text

Re: [PEDA] library management

2003-03-13 Thread Steve Wiseman
11/03/2003 21:39:19, Rene Tschaggelar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, the libraries do not support hierarchies. This means the library layout is flat and with fully qualified resistors, you end up with a long list of them: .. R1206_910R_1% R1206_1k00_1% R1206_1k10_1% R1206_1k20_1% ..

[PEDA] Any way to save 'round the side'?

2003-03-26 Thread Steve Wiseman
I've got a P99SE,SP6 session running (it's been up for days, and I've been working hard, before anyone launches...) Anyway, on trying to save, I get an address violation (in CSRTL50.bpl) - whether I try to save, or save as, any file. This is obviously a bit annoying, although only the last hour

Re: [PEDA] Any way to save 'round the side'?

2003-03-26 Thread Steve Wiseman
Cheers all - some top ideas there, and I suspect that the copy/paste, at the least, would have worked (except that much of the work I was trying to save was scattered through a schematic PCB library...) I stopped for a coffee (long enough for my obsessively frequent autosave to kick in) , then

Re: [PEDA] A little OT - PCB labelling

2003-06-06 Thread Steve Wiseman
05/06/2003 20:38:25, Greg Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following link is a company that makes a laser PCB marking system. Don't know what kind of cost there is but it has a great cool factor! http://www.pcbdriller.com/pcb_marking.htm Yeah - I run one of these -

Re: [PEDA] Specctra 10.2 Interfaces with 99SE

2003-06-16 Thread Steve Wiseman
16/06/2003 17:28:22, Shuping Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank You, Steve. Do you mean Protel Router can't complete on Dense Board? Yes -my reply to Dennis (who also spotted my mistake...) seems to have vanished, but here's the outline- Specctra 10.2 works well, and routes boards to

Re: [PEDA] OrCad to Protel

2003-06-20 Thread Steve Wiseman
20/06/2003 10:40:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can't screen single pin nets ( very embarrasing ), Er, are you sure? Just go into the error matrix, and set each of the 'unconnected' boxes to a warning. Any point where you think that unconnected is OK, stick a No-ERC on the schematic, and job

Re: [PEDA] OrCad to Protel

2003-06-20 Thread Steve Wiseman
20/06/2003 11:23:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, and I nearly forgot. Can DXP do symbol pin entry through a text file or spreadsheet? Dunno about XP, but that's certainly how I do big schematic parts in P99. Build yourself a new library with a single part in it, that part having an example

Re: [PEDA] Split plane / internal layer shortcicuit?

2003-07-02 Thread Steve Wiseman
01/07/2003 02:52:35, Website Visitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've made a +5V plane on an internal layer, using a split plane that covers the entire layer. In the middle of the layer, I'd like to place another split plane with +3.3V. You don't want to be putting split planes inside other

Re: [PEDA] disappearing split planes

2003-07-03 Thread Steve Wiseman
03/07/2003 06:00:02, H. Selfridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an aside - there is no problem or prohibition regarding nested split planes. Yes there is - page 596 of the manual you linked to - that picture is an explicit ban on nesting split planes - you can wrap sausages of planes around

Re: [PEDA] Nested Splits (Was - disappearing split planes)

2003-07-03 Thread Steve Wiseman
03/07/2003 17:59:14, Harry Selfridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You will find that nesting split planes works just fine. Er, in my experience, that's not the case. Protel believes that _both_ planes are present in the middle, not just the inner one. If you punch a power via of the 'sausage' net

Re: [PEDA] Specctra 10.2 Interfaces with 99SE

2003-06-14 Thread Steve Wiseman
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Re: [PEDA] DRC errors

2003-07-17 Thread Steve Wiseman
17/07/2003 17:20:47, Peter Moreton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm updating a PCB after making some schematic changes, and the PCB DRC checker is giving lots of violations of 'clearance constraints' and 'short circuit constraints' If you have units in PCB set to mm, not imperial, your rules will

Re: [PEDA] DRC errors

2003-07-18 Thread Steve Wiseman
18/07/2003 09:22:27, Peter Moreton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks as though the Autorouter is unable to work around all the existing copper - is there something else to do to 'purge' the board of copper, in addition to 'Unroute All' How about - Unselect all (xa) Double click a bit of copper,

Re: [PEDA] Unconnected input pin warnings

2003-08-19 Thread Steve Wiseman
14/08/2003 23:49:02, Damon Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been designing some bus-based cards (with a processor card, and other peripheral cards), and have the problem that on many of the other cards, the address signals (in particular) have no outputs (they come from the processor

[PEDA] P99 SP6 bug in part type global move?

2003-08-27 Thread Steve Wiseman
P99's just wasted a few more minutes of my life... Having placed an array of decoupling capacitors, I (as usual) wanted to place all the part types on top of each other. Since it was a larger array of caps than usual (its a huge DSP), I thought I'd do it using global, and just set all their X,Y

Re: [PEDA] P99 SP6 bug in part type global move?

2003-08-27 Thread Steve Wiseman
27/08/2003 12:43:55, Bevan Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm you say selection box. I assume you mean dropdown box? Yep. The global criterion for the selection is 'Any', 'Same', 'Different' I think. So you had this set on 'Same'? Yep. (since I'd selected all the parts whose part types I

Re: [PEDA] P99 SP6 bug in part type global move?

2003-08-28 Thread Steve Wiseman
28/08/2003 06:43:49, Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you explain a few things? certainly... Are you talking about a SCH or PCB? If PCB, where is the 'part type' you're referring to? If you're talking about a SCH, it works fine, although I don't know why you would put all the

Re: [PEDA] P99 SP6 bug in part type global move?

2003-08-28 Thread Steve Wiseman
27/08/2003 20:14:10, Jon Elson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be able to do an undo for this type of unexpected change. Yes - although I didn't need to, I just noted that Protel was about to move 600 components, not the twenty I was expecting, so I stopped at that point. When's SP7

Re: [PEDA] Prototype Assembly House

2003-09-03 Thread Steve Wiseman
03/09/2003 20:46:02, Tom Reineking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ivan, When soldering fine pitch parts, All well and good. You got any tips for soldering down the hundreds of 0402 decouplers and passives that are the bane of my life? (These days, all non-trivial boards go out to 'proper' reflow

Re: [PEDA] Prototype Assembly House - now assembly guides

2003-09-04 Thread Steve Wiseman
with the current tools, but it really would be handy... Steve Wiseman * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Board fabricator in UK/EU

2003-09-11 Thread Steve Wiseman
11/09/2003 12:50:03, Stephen Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a requirement for a slightly unusual PCB. Does anybody (preferably in the UK) know of a fab house who could make something with these specifications?: These are an odd set of specs - that looks like a candidate for flex, with

Re: [PEDA] Prototype Assembly House - now assembly guides

2003-09-16 Thread Steve Wiseman
04/09/2003 14:07:51, Yuriy Khapochkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can set up *.ppc to prit only selected components, then use global select option to select particular type of components in the PCB. Print them. Select next type of components. Update ppc from PCB. Print them. Been too busy

Re: [PEDA] Quirks and Errata and Bugs, Oh my!

2003-09-18 Thread Steve Wiseman
18/09/2003 09:01:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) On page 87 of the user's manual, there is a note that if you want to see which objects a global change will make without making that change, then enable the selection option in the copy attributes column. This is supposed to highlight the

Re: [PEDA] Quirks and Errata and Bugs, Oh my!

2003-09-18 Thread Steve Wiseman
18/09/2003 15:53:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, Thanx. Oh, and, seeing as you seem to be new to all this, get used to hitting x-a between most operations, to clear all selections you've made... selections often last longer than my attention span, especially when I'm hopping between pages.

Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?

2003-09-19 Thread Steve Wiseman
19/09/2003 13:50:25, Robert M. Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but Expedition router is best I've ever seen. Does that include things like Specctra? Will it bolt up to Protel in any useful way? (Since Situs seems doomed to never get good enough, and we really can't justify another Specctra

[PEDA] Blind vias in P99 / Specctra

2003-09-30 Thread Steve Wiseman
that the wizard generates at the dawn of time, not teh current set, and I can't see how to change it). If DXP can do it, and 99SP6 can't, that's also interesting information. Cheers, Steve Wiseman * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Blind vias in P99 / Specctra

2003-10-02 Thread Steve Wiseman
01/10/2003 13:30:24, Andy Gulliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure we managed to re-import from Specctra, but I can't remember exactly how or whether the technique was different to a standard import. I've just had a trawl through my project data and it looks like the trials have been

Re: [PEDA] Testpoints in P99SE

2003-10-07 Thread Steve Wiseman
07/10/2003 22:58:22, Ian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is an archived message that goes into some detail: http://www.mail- archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg10765.html Yes - I also place testpoint components in the schematic, and rely on the DRC to find nets that I've missed. That seems

Re: [PEDA] component focus

2003-10-13 Thread Steve Wiseman
13/10/2003 16:49:35, Leo Potjewijd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, for some reason I am not able to get a component in focus in the PCB editor by just clicking on it. Is it on the side of the board you think it is? Steve * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To

Re: [PEDA] Another UF found - update

2003-11-19 Thread Steve Wiseman
18/11/2003 20:35:57, Leo Potjewijd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just thought I'd mention it: updating the printer driver with the latest one from the HP website does not resolve the problem completely. The system no longer crashes, but the weird output is still there.. Yeah - I've seen

Re: [PEDA] Utility to count SMD/Through-hole components

2003-11-19 Thread Steve Wiseman
19/11/2003 21:45:18, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, another, perhaps more practical and safer alternative would be to generate three lists: SMT, through-hole, and possibly mixed. The large majority of components would orginarily not be ambiguous. Since this is all to

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