Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: PCB translation: Protel to Orcad ANDOrcad to Protel

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
It's easy. Tell Orcad to generate a tango netlist. -Original Message- From: TSListServer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gary Richardson Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers Subject: RE: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: PCB

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: 8 lead micro SOIC (RM-8) outline?

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
Paul, Why don't you just make it from scratch? It's only 8 pins... (I could understand if you were asking for some large part 100+ pins or whatever, but an 8 pin SOIC??) It probably took you more time to write the email, and read your first response. No disrespect intended :) Tony

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Rectangle holes

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: having W2k installed, can I run...

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
-Original Message- From: TSListServer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Bennett Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 8:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ProtelEDAusers Subject: Re: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: having W2k installed, can I run... And I just discovered a

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: importing a netlist to Protel

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
You're trying to load a PCB file, as the menu indicates. That is not the correct thing to do. You want to first add the external netlist from Orcad (using the tango format) to the Protel DDB. Click on the DDB name or documents folder in Protel 's explorer. Use the file import and bring in the

Re: [PEDA] Never seen this error before on P99SE-SP6

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
I just got this error: License information for TF1Book is invalid I thought I'd be a good user and go check the Knowledge Base and what do you know, I actually found something! It's item 1701!! How am I supposed to update Spread98 on my Protel99SE system??? Tony * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Never seen this error before on P99SE-SP6

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
Steve, you ROCK! That fixed it! Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 3:33 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Never seen this error before on P99SE-SP6 In a message dated 3/13/01 6:21:40 AM

Re: [PEDA] P99SE opening Tango PCB files

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
. Thanks, Tony Karavidas Encore Electronics http://www.encoreelectronics.com Designers of The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet. -Keyboard Oct. 1997 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit

Re: [PEDA] Reading Tango PCB into P99SE

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
Does anyone know if P99SE can read this old Tango format? This example is the start of the file I'm trying to read. Protel doesn't complain about the file, when when I load it, I don't see anything, just a blank PCB space ;Tango-PCB PLUS V2.21 Series II VERSION 1 3 A BOARD 295 295 15005

Re: [PEDA] P99SE opening Tango PCB files

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
-Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:12 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE opening Tango PCB files At 04:06 PM 3/15/01 -0800, Tony Karavidas wrote: I found my old Protel 2.8 floppies

Re: [PEDA] Questions about upgrading to 99SE

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
I *think* the word upgrade in Protel-speak only refers to pricing. I have never seen a Protel app check for an older version (like Microsoft does) You should be fine installing it on a virgin drive. Tony -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: [PEDA] Printing schematics

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
I don't think it's possible. I believe they print in the creation order which is useless. Sounds like a feature: Print according to the page number assigned by user Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 1:54 PM

Re: [PEDA] Searching Network for Floating License

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
I just launched a project that I had created a few weeks ago and two dialog boxes popped up in succession stating the message above. I've never seen this message before. Does anyone know why this would start happening? I have service pack six installed. Tony * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] FCC and design for Manufacturability advice

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
Sniff it out with a spectrum analyzer. I purchased one last year for pre-FCC testing and I love it. It's silly to put parts in places where they may or may not be needed. I can understand the advice having merit when tools aren't readily available. If you're in low volume that may be fine, but if

Re: [PEDA] Protel flyer in the mail.

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
-Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 1:34 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel flyer in the mail. At 12:01 PM 5/1/01 -0700, Tony Karavidas wrote: Has everyone received the price increase flyer from Protel? I wonder

Re: [PEDA] Which CPU is best for Protel.

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
Buy a dual AMD and send me the difference! Price is no concern Must be nice. Seriously, I haven't heard of many apps that benefit from P4. You might want to ask Protel what they think about it. You might find it actually runs faster on the AMD CPUs. Many things do. Tony -Original

Re: [PEDA] Tango Pcb Plus

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
to start from scratch. Tony Karavidas Encore Electronics http://www.EncoreElectronics.com Designers of The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet. -Keyboard Oct. 1997 -Original Message- From: curtis mcbride [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Protel flyer in the mail.

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
Has everyone received the price increase flyer from Protel? I wonder how expensive our next 'upgrade' will be? Tony -Original Message- From: Andrew J Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:40 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: [PEDA] Lockup of Protel 99SEsp6 under Win2K?

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
I get similar events with Outlook 2000. It doesn't happen often but the behavior is similar. It just stops responding. OT: Does anyone know how to get the directory and files to list in alphabetical order on a Windows 2000 system? They were fine until a few days ago (I cannot remember any event

Re: [PEDA] Memory Error

2001-05-07 Thread Tony Karavidas
-Original Message- From: Andrew J Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:42 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Memory Error On 01:20 PM 3/26/01 -0600, Ted Tontis said: I am running Protel 99SE SPK6 on W2K. After closing Protel down

Re: [PEDA] FYI Protel's response to my printing problem

2001-07-11 Thread Tony Karavidas
Here's one for that support person: I recommend you find another way to get a paycheck. Ok, sillyness aside, that was a stupid answer on their part. They could have said can you temporarily try another printer to see if the problem goes away? Obviously Protel cannot control the content or

Re: [PEDA] Bug when opening Protel

2001-07-17 Thread Tony Karavidas
I see it too: Windows 2000, SP2 on an AMD 900MHz system with a Geforce2MX card. Tony Hi, I just noticed a bug which was new to me so far. If you open Protel and click on the little minimize window button in the upper right window corner while the files are loading, and then renew the

Re: [PEDA] Bug when opening Protel

2001-07-17 Thread Tony Karavidas
In the Client99SE.ini under system preferences is a line called DisplaySplashScreen=True. Just change true to false and there will be no splash screen anymore. Enjoy Konrad - Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: [PEDA] Wanna see your board from the bottom? (New server)

2001-07-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
I switched to www.addr.com for my host and they've been good as far as I can tell. (No reports of outages, and my mail hasn't died yet) Tony Karavidas Encore Electronics http://www.EncoreElectronics.com Designers of The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet. -Keyboard Oct. 1997

Re: [PEDA] Multiple grounds (with a specific shorting point)

2001-08-02 Thread Tony Karavidas
Somewhere on my set of pages, I draw multiple ground object (using one or more of the Protel styles) and give each one a net name corresponding to the various grounds on the schematic. I then connect them all together, and Protel resolves the names. It works fine. Tony -Original

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE license for sale

2001-08-06 Thread Tony Karavidas
If anyone is looking to buy, I have one for sale. It's still sealed and the serial number will be provided for verification to serious inquiries. As everyone in this group probably knows, the list price is now $7995. I'll discount this license $2000. (925)229-8875 Tony Karavidas Encore

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE (with SP6 on the CD) license for sale

2001-08-14 Thread Tony Karavidas
is now $7995. I'll discount this license $2000, so your price is $5995. And being the nice guy I am, I'll even ship it for free :) My number is (925)229-8875. Thanks for your time (again) Tony Karavidas Encore Electronics http://www.EncoreElectronics.com Designers of The best MIDI to CV

[PEDA] Camtastic or Protel?

2001-08-16 Thread Tony Karavidas
Does anyone have a good procedure for PCB panelization? I've tried it in Protel (99SE), and it wants to connect all the nets (which I understand). When I try it in Camtastic, there is a lot of router and mousebite info I'd like to add but it doesn't seem like a natural place to add that stuff.

Re: [PEDA] Camtastic or Protel?

2001-08-16 Thread Tony Karavidas
Thanks Dennis and Mark. Wouldn't you know it: the first two responses are opposite!! :) It's being submitted to a new facility which subcontracts the PCB fab, and handles assembly. They indicated it would be best if I control the panalization from one source file, that way there is never a

Re: [PEDA] Camtastic or Protel?

2001-08-16 Thread Tony Karavidas
Hi Mark, I'm paid by the hour in this case, but we need to keep a cap on things, ya know? ;) All good points. I think I basically agree with what you said. Yes, they insist I do it for some odd reason. (Like I said, I haven't had to do this in 14 years.) Thanks for your (and everyone's)

Re: [PEDA] Drag and drop(dead)

2001-08-17 Thread Tony Karavidas
Thinking that Protel 99SE could import autocad DWG files, I tried to drag and drop a DWG onto a fresh DDB recently created and empty. Well... as I type this, Protel is locked up, and the Win2K task manager says Client99SE is using 0% CPU time. I wonder what it's doing??? Tony * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Windoze versions compatible with Protel?

2001-10-02 Thread Tony Karavidas
*** Todays forums are sponsored by Ian Martin Limited Engineering/Technical Placement Specialists www.ianmartin.com *** What apps (that you care about) don't work on W2000? (I'm mostly

Re: [PEDA] Windoze versions compatible with Protel?

2001-10-02 Thread Tony Karavidas
*** Todays forums are sponsored by Ian Martin Limited Engineering/Technical Placement Specialists www.ianmartin.com *** Sounds like the EP1?? :) I have one too and keep an old POS DOS box

Re: [PEDA] Placement Rooms

2001-10-02 Thread Tony Karavidas
*** Todays forums are sponsored by Ian Martin Limited Engineering/Technical Placement Specialists www.ianmartin.com *** I use them for the initial organization of the components that exist on

[PEDA] FW: Protel 99SE license for sale

2001-10-04 Thread Tony Karavidas
is now $7995. I'll discount this license by $2000. (This means my price is $5995) :) (925)229-8875 Tony Karavidas Encore Electronics http://www.EncoreElectronics.com Designers of The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet. -Keyboard Oct. 1997

Re: [PEDA] Possible Gerber generation bug

2001-10-05 Thread Tony Karavidas
*** Todays forums are sponsored by Ian Martin Limited Engineering/Technical Placement Specialists www.ianmartin.com *** -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] shaped pads

2001-10-19 Thread Tony Karavidas
Our experience with MELFs seem to be of no big deal I forgot the foot print I've used, but it wasn't anything too unusual and the resistors were placed (and soldered) perfectly. I'm sure that C shaped pad would align thing more precisely, but how straight do you need them? I see tons of SMD Rs

Re: [PEDA] AW: OT: stupid question - AW: --thank you!

2001-10-19 Thread Tony Karavidas
Class clown...why doesn't that surprise me? Just teasing...I think your post are hilarious sometimes... Have a good one. -Original Message- From: Andrew W. Riley III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:15 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] AW:

Re: [PEDA] Old version manuals and disks for free

2001-10-20 Thread Tony Karavidas
Is there anyone interested in Advanced PCB3, PLD3 adn ROUTE3? I have the manuals and disks in PERFECT condion and I'm about to throw them out to gain space. (I missed my spring cleaning session, so I'm doing it now.) Anyway if you want them, you can have them, just pay for the shipping. Tony

Re: [PEDA] Old version manuals and disks for free

2001-10-20 Thread Tony Karavidas
, they are going in Thursday's trash. Thanks all, Tony -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 7:30 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Old version manuals and disks for free At 11:26 AM 10/20/01 -0700, Tony Karavidas

Re: [PEDA] Old version manuals and disks for free

2001-10-20 Thread Tony Karavidas
Done. Let's do this offline. Tony -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 8:38 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Old version manuals and disks for free Actually I wasn't giving away the keycodes (which

Re: [PEDA] Old version manuals and disks for free

2001-10-20 Thread Tony Karavidas
certainly pay frieght for a duplicate set. I am fully licensed as well. Dan Kennedy Tony Karavidas wrote: Actually I wasn't giving away the keycodes (which are the thing that enables the s/w), just the physical disks and books. Your point is well taken. It was really

Re: [PEDA] Colors on print preview.

2001-10-23 Thread Tony Karavidas
I do this all the time. I leave the schematic alone, and simply add the extra pads to the nets I want in the pcb tool. Then when I do an update from sch, it generates all these remove pad 0 from net gnd type of messages and I read over them and delete them if they are the pads I added. It's

Re: [PEDA] Colors on print preview.

2001-10-23 Thread Tony Karavidas
Sorry I replied to the wrong message!! IT was supposed to be the TO3 message. -Original Message- From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:24 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Colors on print preview. I'm having trouble changing the

Re: [PEDA] Colors on print preview.

2001-10-23 Thread Tony Karavidas
In PrintPreview, go to the tools menu and select Tools-Preferences. You'll see a tab that says Colors Gray Scales Go there and you can edit the preview colors (which can be completely seperate from the PCB editing colors.) Tony -Original Message- From: Brian Guralnick

Re: [PEDA] Test

2001-10-23 Thread Tony Karavidas
I'm curious why it take 15 or more hours sometimes to get an email distributed on this list? I sent emails yesterday evening that are just showing up today. (and one of them still hasn't made it yet) Tony * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message:

Re: [PEDA] Annotating grouped symboles (was Schematic hetero capabilities?)

2001-10-24 Thread Tony Karavidas
Protel does do this, BUT it will mess up (or actually it doesn't take into account) the order within a grouping. Use the group parts together if match by checkboxes. The default is part type but if you put some text in a part field and check the corresponding box, it will keep those parts

Re: [PEDA] Component Rotation

2001-10-24 Thread Tony Karavidas
That's not the issue. PCB placement can be at ANY orientation. (It's default is 90 degrees, but can be easily changed) They were talking about schematic placement. Tony -Original Message- From: Cliff Ober [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:12 AM To:

Re: [PEDA] layer color problem

2001-10-28 Thread Tony Karavidas
You might want to ask Protel. My signal layers are in 'normal' order from TopLayer...all the MidLayers...BottomLayer. H! I started to play with the layer stack manager and I think you're onto a bug. I took a current design and added layers 3 and 6 to it for kicks. Now when I look in the

[PEDA] Protel99SE license has been sold

2001-10-30 Thread Tony Karavidas
Thanks for the inquiries...it's now gone. Tony Karavidas Encore Electronics http://www.EncoreElectronics.com Designers of The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet. -Keyboard Oct. 1997 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support (ATS)

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
Do you do your own taxes? If not, who cares? My accountant wouldn't change my bill over a few items like this. It's HIS job to deal with the complications, not mine. I just pay him for his services. The bottom line is the bottom line Are you money ahead in the old system or the new? Their info

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support (ATS)

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
I'm with you We should all just boycott the ATS package. Tony -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:40 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support (ATS) So now, how we buy and

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support (ATS)

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
The only thing I have to say contrary to what I've said already is that I would jump on board if it meant Protel would gain significant features in a relatively short amount of time. If this money was used to hire more s/w engineers and testers it would be worthwhile. Tony * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support (ATS)

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
Go here http://www.protel.com/media/mr01_ats.htm (Under Availability) It's $1995 -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:37 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support (ATS) I don't know

Re: [PEDA] ATS

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
Their wording is odd at best. ATS membership CANNOT be purchased on existing Protel 99 SE licenses. What does that mean? Maybe it should say CAN be purchased... or else ALL of their current customer base has been left in the dust. Tony -Original Message- From: Wayne Bickers

Re: [PEDA] Wanted: Protel99SE PCB License

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
Where were you a couple months ago! :) I just sold one, but Abdulrahman Lomax is known for brokering these from time to time. -Original Message- From: Jason Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 2:49 AM To: Protel EDA Forum (E-mail) Subject: [PEDA]

[PEDA] PCB promo

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
This is a little off topic, but you're the right crowd to ask. I received a promo postcard from some PCB vendor (I think they were in Colorado) offering 2 PCBs for $33 each. The claim was something like almost any size two layer FR4 board. Can anyone recall this??? Tony * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] PCB promo

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] PCB promo i believe it was advanced circuits, tony. i recommend them. miker -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 6:01 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject:[PEDA] PCB promo

Re: [PEDA] Bad mail

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
Everytime I send a message to this group, I get a reply like the one below saying my direct mail has bounced to him. Why would I get this? Wouldn't the group server get it? Does everyone else see this? Writing this email will cause the same thing in a few minutes. Tony -Original

Re: [PEDA] Bad mail

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
service provider. Wayne Bickers Electronics Engineer Tru-Test Ltd -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2001 1:01 p.m. To: Protel EDA Forum Subject:Re: [PEDA] Bad mail Everytime I send a message

Re: [PEDA] ATS

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
Speaking about the beta program, I applied and was denied. I thought it a bit funny, since I know the current app pretty damn well and would be a good point of view for the 'next' version. I wonder what exactly is their criteria?? Oh well -Original Message- From: Geoff Harland

Re: [PEDA] ATS

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
Well if you are right, I'm going to be stuck in a 2001 time zone. If Protel and Microsoft fell off the face of the earth, I would still be able to successfully: 1. Design stuff 2. Write letters 3. Write emails 4. Collect money for my work. 5. Pay my bills Screw them all if that's where the s/w

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support (ATS)

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
Mark, what are you talking about? Protel had THREE service packs for '98 and as I recall it worked pretty well. -Original Message- From: Mark Gavett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 6:43 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support

Re: [PEDA] ATS - News

2001-10-31 Thread Tony Karavidas
Why don't they offer ATS for the corporate types that like to have a fixed budget plan, and then not require the rest of us (with fixed budgets) to buy upgrades when we feel it's necessary? It seems like they could keep both types of customers happy while still increasing revenue, although at a

Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support (ATS)

2001-11-01 Thread Tony Karavidas
What do you expect? You didn't have to buy P99, you could have stayed with P98. I know a few people that are using it day after day. Do you expect Ford to keep updating the Pinto? No, they come out with newer, better models with more features and more comfort and you can sell your old car and

Re: [PEDA] Altium changes.

2001-11-01 Thread Tony Karavidas
I wanted to point out a little mistake I made earlier. I thought I was denied because of my interpretation of the message Protel sent me. The manager of the beta program reads this lists and replied to my post. I was in fact accepted as a beta tester, but I didn't read it correctly. Here it is:

Re: [PEDA] Antwort: ATS - PIGS MIGHT FLY

2001-11-02 Thread Tony Karavidas
Or sell them short. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 1:32 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Antwort: ATS - PIGS MIGHT FLY Don Ingram wrote: I don't accept that the solution to this is to move

Re: [PEDA] Sense of selling protel and p-cad

2001-11-03 Thread Tony Karavidas
Altium is a new master name which encompasses all the others. Sort of like General Motors is the big name but under it you have several brands like Cadillac, Buick, GMC, Pontiac etc.. The exception is that Altium has no brand recognition right now because the name is so new, while GM is very well

Re: [PEDA] Protel Advanced PCB 2.8 Questions

2001-11-11 Thread Tony Karavidas
Go for it. Some of us are still required to use 2.8 once in a while because Protel has dropped translation for some things that used to work with 2.8 and are no longer included in version 99. Tony -Original Message- From: Jim Labrecque [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday,

Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor

2001-11-14 Thread Tony Karavidas
THat is a BONUS FEATURE in PCB. We WISH the SCH tools had the same thing!!! About the other slow issue: Get a faster video card or faster CPU or both. My system used to be like that, but it screams now in regards to panning/redrawing left to right. I'm not talking state-of-the-art, I only have a

Re: [PEDA] Holes

2001-11-14 Thread Tony Karavidas
I've seen the same behavior on older versions of Protel running on older verstions of my PC. Not including video driver bugs, you would think Protel would use plain vanilla API calls that would work on ANY hardware. I never figured out why arcs and pads drop out from time to time. Tony

Re: [PEDA] Using 3D and a 3D bug...

2001-11-14 Thread Tony Karavidas
You cannot currently. I say currently because I HOPE Protel does something useful with this feature. We've been waiting to see for a couple years now. Tony -Original Message- From: Phillip Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:42 AM To: Protel EDA

Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor

2001-11-14 Thread Tony Karavidas
VX1 32Mb Graphics Card, on an Intel 800Mhz Machine with 132Mb memory. Steve -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2001 17:44 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor THat is a BONUS FEATURE

Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor

2001-11-14 Thread Tony Karavidas
that when pressed, I can pan around the screen. But it's not as good, or fast as the PCB method! Steve -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2001 20:12 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor

Re: [PEDA] None

2001-11-14 Thread Tony Karavidas
If he is going from SCH to PCB, he is telling us from the schematic point of view being the master. The wire is touching the pin on the sch, or else the netlist connecion below would be generated. It seems to me you don't have a pin on PCB component FS1 numbered pin 2. It's possible (if you

Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-14 Thread Tony Karavidas
What does ALT, WIN(key), Printscreen provide that ALT, Printscreen doesn't? Tony -Original Message- From: Michael Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:15 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif,

Re: [PEDA] Multi-Part Components

2001-11-14 Thread Tony Karavidas
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Elson Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:15 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Multi-Part Components clip.. I did have a little trouble with it, though. Does anyone know how to

Re: [PEDA] Devil's Advocacy, ATS FAQs

2001-11-15 Thread Tony Karavidas
OK so I offer a case of beer or wine (your pick) to the first person that can hack their site and put Fred's version of the FAQ up there!! (Just kidding Protel) Tony -Original Message- From: Fred A Rupinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:23 AM To:

Re: [PEDA] Using 3D

2001-11-16 Thread Tony Karavidas
Be thankful you're not trying to program an ADI DSP. I'm having so many problems with their tools and they cost $5K!! I was an orcad user too during the V7 period and remember it crashing constantly, especially when trying to move parts from one library cache to another. No thanks... Tony

Re: [PEDA] Protel's Good/Bad points (WAS:Using 3D)

2001-11-19 Thread Tony Karavidas
Jason, you crack me up. First you complain about bugs in Protel, then you say it's your IT guy's problem because he wants to patch the OS even when there is no visible problem. Patches == Bug fixes. You think all bugs are visible? Think again buddy. There are security holes, reliability issues,

Re: [PEDA] Protel's Good/Bad points (WAS:Using 3D)

2001-11-19 Thread Tony Karavidas
Actually most memory does NOT have ECC. Tony -Original Message- From: Chris Mackensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:25 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel's Good/Bad points (WAS:Using 3D) most of this memory stuff also has ECC

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-19 Thread Tony Karavidas
I love the design explorer. When I revisit a design from a year or more ago, I can see everything I was up to at the time. Oh, I did 2 protos...Oh, here was production gerber set 2, etc... I just got a call to change some hole sizes on a board so I called up and 'old' design, globally changed

Re: [PEDA] Removing IP from PCB (Ex: Protel's Good/Bad points ...)

2001-11-19 Thread Tony Karavidas
I'm not sure what kind of designs you do, but my PCBs are nearly useless without firmware source, programmable logic source, etc. I have no problems giving Protel my PCBs when necessary because of all the other information REQUIRED to make anything useful. The board is basically raw material.

Re: [PEDA] Protel's Good/Bad points (WAS:Using 3D)

2001-11-19 Thread Tony Karavidas
Yeah well tell that to all the people that return memory to Fry's because it's crap. Maybe it's grey market, mis-marked crap, but it's still crap. I know more people that buy more crappy DRAM at Fry's that is supposed to be PC100 or PC133 and it simply doesn't work. And these people are Silicon

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-19 Thread Tony Karavidas
: [PEDA] Protel usage Hi Tony, Got one question... please... Do you have a configuration management group where you work?... - Bill Brooks -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:00 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-20 Thread Tony Karavidas
Great so we're not missing much after all! I wish someone at Protel was assigned to documentation. (And if there is, then the fact I simply wished there were is an indication the job isn't being fulfilled properly.) I understand holes in the documentation exist, but with the internet available,

Re: [PEDA] Pin gate swapping

2001-11-21 Thread Tony Karavidas
It doesn't do it as others have already said, and frankly I think it's a technology that was useful when 7400 series was more mainstrean, but in the last 10 or so designs I've done, I don't ever recall missing the feature. This is attributed to heavy use of DSPs, uCs, PALs, FPGAs, etc. There are

Re: [PEDA] How to use objects as keepouts?

2001-11-21 Thread Tony Karavidas
Why don't you use a layer specific keep-out track? Place a skinny track 1 mil or so between the pads and when you pour the polygon, it will avoid the area between the two SMD pads. Tony -Original Message- From: Jenkins, Charlie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November

Re: [PEDA] connector footprint

2001-11-26 Thread Tony Karavidas
Yes I think I do. It's not the exact part you mentioned, but 5 pin DIN RA tend to be very similar. I'll email it to you as soon as I extract it from my lib. Tony -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:44 AM To: Protel EDA

Re: [PEDA] bug report

2001-11-26 Thread Tony Karavidas
I just found a little bug. If I export a PCB part to spreadsheet, it works, but if I export THAT outside of the DDB before saving it it exports a zero byte file. Also, if I look at the .xls file within the DDB, it indicates zero bytes until the ddb is saved. So the internal xls file has data in

Re: [PEDA] bug report

2001-11-26 Thread Tony Karavidas
. Tony -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:39 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] bug report At 09:49 AM 11/26/01 -0800, Tony Karavidas wrote: I just found a little bug. If I export a PCB part

Re: [PEDA] Schematic driven PCB Layout

2001-11-27 Thread Tony Karavidas
You might have another rule set for min track size (There are some default rules present). It might override the directive. Tony -Original Message- From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 9:53 AM To: Protel EDA Forum (E-mail) Subject: [PEDA]

Re: [PEDA] News about protel

2001-11-28 Thread Tony Karavidas
How many of us actually use Protel's support? I know I don't anymore. How much of a problem would that really be for us if we lost it officially? The newbies could come here and ask us oldtimers. Tony -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: [PEDA] News about protel

2001-11-28 Thread Tony Karavidas
Ha ha, I mean in protel years. I'm only 37! In fact, TODAY is my B-day. Bummer I have to work! Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:07 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] News about protel In a

Re: [PEDA] Off-Board components

2001-12-03 Thread Tony Karavidas
Since you connect to these off board parts like switches and pots, you need something on the schematic to represent the connector, even if its just two big pads. You could assign the footprint for a switch as a pad pair, which is what I do. It allows the switch to be on the sch, yet the pair

Re: [PEDA] R: First announcement of Phoenix by Altium

2001-12-05 Thread Tony Karavidas
IF you paid the DAY BEFORE, you should scream bloody murder and have them make an exception for you or else return it! Call your credit card company and have them reverse the charge and them them you were misled. -Original Message- From: Stephen Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: [PEDA] Tasking Offer

2001-12-06 Thread Tony Karavidas
You and me both. The Keil tools could start another deep thread on quality and support... :( Tony -Original Message- From: Terry Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:26 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Tasking Offer Guess I will just

Re: [PEDA] HI!

2001-12-08 Thread Tony Karavidas
There are dozens (if not hundreds) of footprints for seven segment displays. You need to choose a physical display you want to use and MAKE a footprint for it. If you're lucky, it might be in a library already. Tony -Original Message- From: Mariano M ndez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: [PEDA] Now see what you did ! ! !

2001-12-09 Thread Tony Karavidas
The site is still there! -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 3:27 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith; JaMi OC Subject: [PEDA] Now see what you did ! ! ! Now see what you guys (and gals) went and did ! ! ! You

Re: [PEDA] RV: HI Again...

2001-12-09 Thread Tony Karavidas
You should be able to layout that part pretty easily. We cannot do it for you because there isn't any pinout info in that drawing. Just the mechanical stuff. It's only 10 pads plus the outline, right? Tony -Original Message- From: Mariano M ndez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

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