Re: [PEDA] Autorouter questions - DXP 2004?

2004-08-16 Thread edsi
Chris, Go to http://www.connecteda.com/ I wrote an article for ELECTRA that may help you route your design. This is not an advertisement for Electra, I am just sharing my knowledge. Mike Reagan EDSI Frederick MD -- Original Message -- From: Chris

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter questions - DXP 2004?

2004-08-14 Thread Mira
Chris, In general: - route manually all important nets - fanout manually all power pins - run the autoroute from there. Many people complain about the poor results. You can never get as good layour as you'd do it manually but it also depends on how you'll set the autorouter. You'll have to

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter speed, (was New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 month now...)

2004-03-10 Thread Brian Guralnick
Autoroute example board #3, 5 min, 20 seconds. (CPU set to 3 GHz, mp3 playing in the background.) _ Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 4:04 PM Subject: [PEDA]

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter speed, (was New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 month now...)

2004-03-10 Thread John A. Ross [RSDTV]
-Original Message- From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:04 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Autorouter speed, (was New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 month now...) Just tried out the autorouter, the example autorouter

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter speed, (was New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 month now...)

2004-03-10 Thread Brian Guralnick
. _ Brian Guralnick - Original Message - From: John A. Ross [RSDTV] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter speed, (was New PC tested with Protel for at least 1 month now...) -Original

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter no joke i know it is a tall order (big

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-21 Thread Dennis Saputelli
. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter no joke i know it is a tall

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-21 Thread Jon Elson
Dennis Saputelli wrote: what you say is true (good products ruined) but it is too late in other words this is the M.O. of biz today so wishing it were otherwise makes no difference Well, remember that only publicly-traded corporations can be bought out by force. A privately-held corporation

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-21 Thread Edi Im Hof
At 14:18 21.01.2004 -0600, you wrote: Dennis Saputelli wrote: what you say is true (good products ruined) but it is too late in other words this is the M.O. of biz today so wishing it were otherwise makes no difference Well, remember that only publicly-traded corporations can be bought out by

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-21 Thread Terry Creer
Thomas, I presume 4/4 is 4mil tracks with 4mil clearances etc, etc... TC -Original Message- From: Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2004 12:27 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter Please excuse my ignorance, what are 4/4

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
: Jon Elson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter Dennis Saputelli wrote: what you say is true (good products ruined) but it is too late in other words this is the M.O. of biz today so wishing

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-21 Thread ravenrux
I call that the Dumbass touch. :) Michael Badillo QT, Inc. From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/01/21 Wed PM 04:25:52 EST To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter Well, remember that only publicly-traded corporations can be bought out

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-21 Thread Jon Elson
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: Well, remember that only publicly-traded corporations can be bought out by force. A privately-held corporation that doesn't want to be bought, can't be bought. I wasn't commenting about whether or not they wanted to be bought. It's entirely conceivable that

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-21 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:01 AM 22/01/2004, Jon Elson said: The culprits are the buyers, who in many cases, don't have the business sense that God gave to a rock. UMM, anyone we know? Like Altium? I know the sentiment but ... Does anyone know which CAE companies are growing fastest? I assume Altium would be up

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-20 Thread Joe Sapienza
Mike, This is a separate and not the integrated replacement for Situs, right? Joe - Original Message - From: edsi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:49 PM Subject: [PEDA] Autorouter Hello All, I wish to share my excitement on new autorouter

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-20 Thread Dennis Saputelli
what does it cost ? how does it like BGAs? does it still convert all the via holes to 28 or is that a protel bug? maybe altium should give up and just buy the ELECTRA company ? ds edsi wrote: Hello All, I wish to share my excitement on new autorouter for Protel. The router is from

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-20 Thread edsi
Joe and Dennis, This company has no affiliation with Altium. Yes I agree ELECTRA is the routing solution for all of Altium's products. Dennis, it will do BGAs, it will do it all. When importing back from the router, it exhibits the same chararteristics as Spectra. Every via is converted to 28

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-20 Thread Darren
Hi Joe, Yes, not related to Altium, see this link for details. Says pricing starting from $600.00. looks like that is for double sided boards. http://www.konekt.com/ Regards, Darren -Original Message- From: Joe Sapienza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, This is a separate

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-20 Thread Ian Wilson
On 05:49 AM 21/01/2004, edsi said: Hello All, I wish to share my excitement on new autorouter for Protel. The router is from konekt.com, named ELECTRA. Electra is available in several configurations, but I wish to share that I spent a considerable amount of time baselining this software. The

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-20 Thread Steve Wiseman
20/01/2004 19:28:34, Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what does it cost ? Dunno yet. how does it like BGAs? It seems to have just routed my double-sided, densely-packed BGA board from hell, that even Specctra hates. It took a couple of hours, and barfed on some of the rules in my

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-20 Thread edsi
Ian, The dsn file you create must be 100 percent Spectra compatible. There are some quirks to every software packageSpectra has a few and if not followed both Spectra and Electra will not initialize. If you are having some difficulty initilizing a file, send it to me and I will take a

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-20 Thread Dennis Saputelli
$3K for the full version seems quite reasonable if it will do what spectra does now we just need a router that will do 4/4 around BGAs and then switch to 5/5 or 8/8 outside that region! -:) ds edsi wrote: Joe and Dennis, This company has no affiliation with Altium. Yes I agree ELECTRA is

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-20 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
And add 6/6 in between to smooth the transition. Are you sure you are joking here? :) Igor -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2004 11:48 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter $3K for the full version seems

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-20 Thread Thomas
Please excuse my ignorance, what are 4/4, 5/5 etc...? -Original Message- From: Igor Gmitrovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2004 12:25 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter And add 6/6 in between to smooth the transition. Are you sure

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-20 Thread Dennis Saputelli
-Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2004 11:48 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter $3K for the full version seems quite reasonable if it will do what spectra does now we just need a router

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-20 Thread Dennis Saputelli
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter And add 6/6 in between to smooth the transition. Are you sure you are joking here? :) Igor -- ___ Integrated Controls, Inc. Tel: 415-647-0480 EXT 107 2851 21st Street

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2003-10-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:10 PM 10/16/2003, Chacon Simon, Geoffrey wrote: get-archive proteledaforum subject router Well, partly to note that Geoffry can search the archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ and partly to test the PEDA list, I'm sending this message. (there was another archive

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter questions:

2003-10-02 Thread Emanuel Zimmermann
Gary, Personally I don't have much experience with the Protel autorouter. But if you really intend to use it in your setup: Why don't you let the router just use the outer layers for routing and do the rest manually on the inner layers? This way you have much more control over your power

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter questions:

2003-10-02 Thread Andy Gulliver
Is this on 99SE or DXP? The following applies to P99SE/SP6, but similar principles will probably apply for DXP: If the power routing is simple you could try first manually routing the power nets on the outer layers and then set up the Routing Layers rule so the outer two are set to 'unused' (NB:

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs.

2002-09-17 Thread Brad Velander
-Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 7:38 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs. Actually guys, Don't fight over the award yet, because he isn't really saying what you think he is saying

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs - A FLAWED PREMISE

2002-09-17 Thread Fred A Rupinski
noise environment, the differential pair spacing cannot be ignored. Once again, be careful. Regards, Fred A Rupinski - Original Message - From: Brad Velander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs - A FLAWED PREMISE

2002-09-17 Thread Brad Velander
] http://www.norsat.com Norsat's Microwave Products Division has now achieved ISO 9001:2000 certification -Original Message- From: Fred A Rupinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:22 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs.

2002-09-17 Thread JaMi Smith
Brad, See below, JaMi - Original Message - From: Brad Velander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs. Jami, you seem to be applying the term differential impedance

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs - A FLAWED PREMISE

2002-09-17 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: Brad Velander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs - A FLAWED PREMISE snip . . . I simply intended that it was not of a concern

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs.

2002-09-17 Thread Brad Velander
Jami, I don't think that I or Lee are mixing apples and oranges. To me this article is so clear and comprehendible , I just don't see what you are seeing. Anyway, if you think Lee is wrong then you should discuss it with him. It is not my task to defend him. Sincerely, Brad

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs.

2002-09-17 Thread JaMi Smith
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs. Jami, I don't think that I or Lee are mixing apples and oranges. To me this article is so clear and comprehendible , I just don't see what you are seeing. Anyway, if you think Lee is wrong then you should discuss it with him

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs.

2002-09-17 Thread Ian Wilson
Surely this is OT now - what about any further discussion be held off this list. The forum admin has already mentioned that list membership is falling... Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: *

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs - OT?

2002-09-17 Thread Clive . Broome
:(bcc: Clive Broome/sdc) Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter and Differential Pairs. Surely this is OT now - what about any further discussion be held off this list. The forum admin has already mentioned that list membership is falling... Ian

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter just stops...

2002-06-12 Thread David . Watling
Hi, I had something very similar a few years ago, and it was caused by a circular board outline, which the autorouter doesn't like. Have you got any arcs in your board outline? David Watling

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter - preroutes

2002-03-01 Thread Dennis Saputelli
anyone know definitively: 1] if i lock preroutes and then do not check 'lock all preroutes' in the route all dialog what will happen? it seems to change some of them 2] does 'automatically remove loops' check box have any effect on the autorouter? Dennis Saputelli --

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter - preroutes

2002-03-01 Thread Dennis Saputelli
or does it maybe mean 'lock all *locked* preroutes' ?? Dennis Saputelli Dennis Saputelli wrote: anyone know definitively: 1] if i lock preroutes and then do not check 'lock all preroutes' in the route all dialog what will happen? it seems to change some of them 2] does

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter - preroutes

2002-03-01 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:05 PM 3/1/2002 -0800, Dennis Saputelli wrote: 2] does 'automatically remove loops' check box have any effect on the autorouter? I would be astonished to find that it had any effect whatever. automatically remove loops only affects loops being created during manual routing. It does not

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter Stability Problems

2002-01-20 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:13 AM 19/01/2002 -0800, Brian Sherer said: 1) Protel doesn't flag buffer overruns at all, in any server. It can occur when for instance multiple Polygon Pours are used instead of Split Planes on a multilayer design. It seems that Polygons are handled as a multiplicity of primitives, while

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter Stability Problems

2002-01-19 Thread John Whittaker
Hi Brian Thank you so much. Yes, I have seen 'phantom primitives' (could select it, but couldn't see it or delete it) and I have gotten polygon plane counts of 8 when it should have been 7. This design has been heavily edited, as you suspected. I will review your answer in detail follow the

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter Stability Problems

2002-01-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:13 AM 1/19/2002 -0800, Brian Sherer wrote: It seems that Polygons are handled as a multiplicity of primitives, while Split Planes are handled as single entities. Database size seems to grow exponentially if Polygon Pours are used. This is not just an appearance? Pours, by definition,

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter Stability Problems

2002-01-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:16 PM 1/19/2002 -0600, John Whittaker wrote: Have you heard about the upcoming Protel Release - 'Phoenix'? Will this improve upon the autorouter? It is a near certainty. As a completely rewritten router, we expect, it may have some bugs, but I also suspect that we will be very glad to

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-19 Thread Douglas McDonald
The new router coming, we are told, might be a more serious competitor to Specctra. If this is true, then the price increases Protel might be well worth it. Even if the router was not as good as Specctra but was substantially better than the current router, it might still be worth it. So we are

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-19 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:30 PM 18/11/2001 -1100, Douglas McDonald said: The new router coming, we are told, might be a more serious competitor to Specctra. If this is true, then the price increases Protel might be well worth it. Even if the router was not as good as Specctra but was substantially better than the

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-19 Thread Sean James
] Cc: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter Autorouter? Whats an autorouter? You mean you there's something besides black tape and #16 blades? JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-18 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:42 PM 11/17/01 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: Abdul, have you tried using a trackball and wrist rest? Well, yes. I prefer a mouse. What I described about a frozen shoulder was about five years ago. I had already purchased a good chair -- highly recommended, though one does not

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-17 Thread Georg Beckmann
have a return of invest in a short time. Georg -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: Steve Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Samstag, 17. November 2001 02:39 An: Protel EDA Forum Betreff: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter $1K a year, I'd think Mr. Baggett could afford for a tool rapidly being

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-17 Thread Mike Reagan
- Anyway, I'm sure, that to work 'together' with an autorouter saves you a lot of time and you have a return of invest in a short time. I agree with George, If you are laying boards out all of the time Spectra will pay for itself in a year. It is that fast and that good ! I lay boards

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-17 Thread Don Ingram
- You cannot expect, that you push a button and get the ready done board you thinking of. Unless you are a new Customer or you work in Marketing for the Software supplier... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-17 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
On the other hand, today we have carpal tunnel syndrome and I got a frozen left shoulder from hours of having my left hand hovering over the keyboard while the right hand moved the mouse. Don't try this one at home, it took a year of physical therapy to unfreeze the shoulder. Abdul, have you

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread Juha Pajunen
I have been using Protel99SE now about two years and have not never used autorouter. I try is once and end up that same conclusion as Tim Fifield PS. I am a new guy i this forum Sincerely, Juha Pajunen, Hw Engineer -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread Rene Tschaggelar
I don't even use it for small designs. I tried it once and found it useless. Admittedly I do strictly 2 layer designs. It might be useful for multilayer designs though. Rene -- http://www.ibrtses.com Tim Fifield wrote: Just curious... Does anybody use the 99SE autorouter for large PCB

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
How large is large for you? I use the 99SE autorouter for my large designs, but not for small designs. It takes a lot of practice and trial/error to figure out how to set up the autorouting rules for each board. And each board may take different rules. You just have to have patience.

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread Darryl Newberry
My company has lots of money so they bought Specctra 10.0. Our designs aren't physically that big or dense so I still prefer to route by hand for best results. Plus I don't really do that many boards in a year. Specctra performance is great but you have to learn all about DO files. I was not at

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread Sean James
I've never have used autorouters. I'm from the old school, where I cut my teeth with hand taping. Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc. 102 Grove Street Worcester, MA 01605 (TEL) 508.754.4858 x33 (FAX) 413.541.6170 - Original Message - From: Tim Fifield [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
: Sean James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter I've never have used autorouters. I'm from the old school, where I cut my teeth with hand taping. Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
- Original Message - From: Sean James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter I've never have used autorouters. I'm from the old school, where I cut my teeth with hand taping. Sean James PCB Designer

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread David W. Gulley
Tim Fifield wrote: Just curious... Does anybody use the 99SE autorouter for large PCB designs? Do the majority of board designers do everything manually? I don't even bother with the autorouter anymore, it's to messy. Perhaps I'm not setting it up properly. What do you people do? I have

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:04 PM 11/16/01 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: When good folks like Abdul, bless his heart, assert that Protel is a good value even at $8K, they should keep in mind that some organizations do more than PCB layout for hire. Certainly. I don't need simulation, PLD programming, etc. It

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:04 PM 11/16/01 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: Once one of the Mechs asked what software I used to connect the pads together on the CAD system. I told him I was using the Bago-router. He thought I was being serious and asked what the Bago-router was. I replied It's a 100%

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:32 AM 11/16/01 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: I've never have used autorouters. I'm from the old school, where I cut my teeth with hand taping. Ouch, that must have hurt! Personally, I have my dentist do my dental work. My teeth I never cut, my fingers, yes, and I think more

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread JaMi Smith
Autorouter? Whats an autorouter? You mean you there's something besides black tape and #16 blades? JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:07 AM To: Protel EDA Form Subject: [PEDA] Autorouter

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread Steve Baldwin
$1K a year, I'd think Mr. Baggett could afford for a tool rapidly being improved. Obviously, if it were not being improved, even $1 would be too much! To me, this is the crux of the matter. Pay your money now and wait and see what you get for it. An alternative would be put your $1k into

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2001-11-16 Thread Dwight Harm
Not doing anything too large, but mostly use autorouter, with some manual pre-routing. 300+ components, SMT thru-hole, 4-layer, mixed analog+digital. On the dense side (for me), 1200 pads on 5x7 board -- I'm happy to let the autorouter find a way! (Usually gets it about 98%.) -Original

Re: [PEDA] autorouter

2001-07-23 Thread Richard Thompson
Wow thanks!! I would never have found that :-) It was indeed a rogue footprint, protel couldn't be a bit more helpful though could it ;-) i had to remove each footprint until it worked like you suggested. many thanks Rich Hello Richard, I have had this problem once before and found

Re: [PEDA] autorouter

2001-07-22 Thread SIMM Maurie
Hello Richard, I have had this problem once before and found that one of my footprints (SOT23) was corrupted so after updating this footprint all was okay. You ask how I found this? I suggest you first check your library ddb and run a database compact and repair as I found my library with the

Re: [PEDA] autorouter

2001-07-20 Thread Brooks,Bill
Hi Richard, I would suggest that you check your setup on Design Rules for the autorouter. It may be that the spacing you are telling the program to maintain is so large that there are no paths for the router to take that would not violate the spacing rule. - Bill Brooks Bill Brooks PCB Design

Re: [PEDA] autorouter will not use all signal layers

2001-05-07 Thread Pierce, Scott
do you have your layers setup in the DRC'er? Scott -Original Message- From: Michael Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 9:15 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Subject: [PEDA] autorouter will not use all signal layers Hi, Protel99SE autorouter seems to be using

Re: [PEDA] autorouter will not use all signal layers

2001-05-07 Thread HxEngr