Immediately before the change to Altium tactics, I was for Protel if I ever
had to do it on my own. It was affordable. My subscription to Protel's
designer forum followed soon after my interest in layout. For quite a
while, I have remained a subscriber to this list because I want to pay back
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:28, you wrote:
I've been told by my boss that for what Altium are offering with ATS it's
just not going to happen here. DXP is way out of the question.
It's a pity that more people wont jump on this bandwagon. They'll
just keep forking out hard earned money for
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:28, you wrote:
I've been told by my boss that for what Altium are offering with ATS
it's
just not going to happen here. DXP is way out of the question.
It's a pity that more people wont jump on this bandwagon. They'll
just keep forking out hard earned
Does anybody know how to insert PPC (PCBPrint) image into Microsoft Word?
I would appreciate any ideas better, than printing - scanning.
Yuriy Khapochkin.
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At 10:29 10.07.02 +1000, you wrote:
Tom,
many of them will join us, they just keep it quiet. It would be probably
better from our users' point of view if more people voiced their opinion.
That would hopefully let them understand we are serious when we say 'We
are not buying this anymore'.
So you've dropped a pro package for a hobby package? Maybe it could be
better, given enough time, but most of the people on this list aren't
hobbyist, then make a living (in part) by doing SCH capture and PCB layout.
Like I said before, what's your time worth?
I've got a pretty good investment
At 09:37 10.07.02 -0500, you wrote:
Does anybody know how to insert PPC (PCBPrint) image into Microsoft Word?
I would appreciate any ideas better, than printing - scanning.
My way:
- Print to a PDF-File
- Open the PDF with Corel Draw
- Select all objects
- Copy (Ctrl-C)
- Paste into the Word
Oh yeah one more thing, have you seen the eagle forum? You think you're
escaping a series of problem by leaving Protel and going to Eagle? No,
you're just exchanging one set of problems for another set AND loosing
functionality. Good luck.
Tony
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From: Katinka Mills
That's why we've stayed with 98SE.
Steve Smith
Product Engineer
Staco Energy Products Co.
Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:15 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel
I reccomend adobe acrobat for pcb files.
However, version 4 on w2000 sp2 does not work on sch files. For those I
use efax. For low cost if you subsribe to efax, you can use their prit
driver/display software to export to tiff or jpeg.
Does anyone know if acrobat 5 works with sch files?
Mike
Does anyone know if acrobat 5 works with sch files?
Absolutely yes, and worked so well it was incorporated into the doc control
system at my last job. Anyone hiring?
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From: mike ingle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July
Actually, I use Acrobat 3.0 for printing to PDF files, and have both 3.0 and
5.0 installed for reading PDF files. The reason I still use 3.0 for
printing is that I want to be sure the files I produce are readable by
others who might have only 3.0 Reader. Before I upgraded to 5.0 Reader, I
hated
I have Adobe Acrobat v5.0.5 under Win'98 and '99SE SP6 with 512 MB RAM,
and it works OK on Schematic files with the exception that arcs of certain
diameters located within 20% of the right edge of the sheet are not
rendered at all.
This includes such objects as the arcs used to create AND
Mike,
I use Adobe Acrobat 4 with Win2K SP2 and it works fine for Protel
schematics for me. Are you using the original 4.0x version? Adobe
had a free upgrade to 4.05a that fixed some bugs and I think the
problems with Protel may have been caught in the fix.
I do know after visiting Adobe's
Mike, I use Acrobat 4.0 (Distiller) on win2000 to print schematics, no problem.
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From: mike ingle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:49 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] PPC to word insertion
I reccomend adobe acrobat for pcb
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:51, you wrote:
So you've dropped a pro package for a hobby package? Maybe it could be
better, given enough time, but most of the people on this list aren't
hobbyist, then make a living (in part) by doing SCH capture and PCB layout.
Like I said before, what's your time
It works fine. I use version 4 on w2000 sp2 without problems.
Tony
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From: mike ingle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:49 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] PPC to word insertion
I reccomend adobe acrobat for pcb files.
Nevermind...I just installed the disk LABELED 4.0.6 and after installation
the version reported on the app was 4.0.5a. Someone at Adobe goofed.
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From: Matt Pobursky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:14 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject:
Jason Van Dellen wrote:
So, you're saying Protel 99SE works well under Win4Lin?
Yes, but you still need the cab files and a Lisence.
Yes, I knew that.
I tried VMware a while ago and found it very bulky and slow, is that still the
case?
It would have to be remarkably bulky to fill up my
For the fonts that don't render correctly you may have to tell the PDF writer to
embedd the fonts. I haven't seen a problem with the arcs.
Rob
Brian Sherer [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/10/2002 01:07:22 PM
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Igor Gmitrovic wrote:
Tom,
many of them will join us, they just keep it quiet. It would be probably better from
our users' point of view if more people voiced their opinion. That would hopefully
let them understand we are serious when we say 'We are not buying this anymore'.
We made the
As for speed, I think it runs as fast as Win2K on the native hardware,
although it is a little hard to tell. A 1 GHz machine is so fast
Yeah, a 1Ghz is much faster then my Dual 300. I was trying out the VMware
demo a few years ago and found it slow and the price tag too high. They've
I think you're in the minority on P98. I remember really enjoying the update
from prior versions.
What didn't you like about P98?
I was hesitant to install P99 because of the DDB issue, but after I got used
to it, I liked it a lot.
Now I'm going to have to get used to it NOT being there,
I have to agree that Protel99SE does what I need it to do. And I have used
it long enough to know the workarounds. The price of upgrading looks too
high and a new seat is outrageous! Add to that the ATS price and I will be
staying with 99SE.
Cam
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From: Jon Elson
I'd say it depends on what they offer in DXP. If there is something
significant that justifies $1500 or $2000 or whatever it is, then it will be
worth it. If it's simply a new skin on top of old buggy code, then no way.
The jury is still out...
-Original Message-
From: Cam Andruik
Tony Karavidas wrote:
I think you're in the minority on P98. I remember really enjoying the update
from prior versions.
What didn't you like about P98?
Well, I was running it on Windows 95, which wasn't recommended. But, that's
what I had. The major problem was with the autorouter, and I
i got a second seat of 99E for about $4K and it includes a 'free'
upgrade to DXP
not too bad
don't know if they are still offerring that though
Dennis Saputelli
Cam Andruik wrote:
I have to agree that Protel99SE does what I need it to do. And I have used
it long enough to know the
Easy...
When you have the PPC as you want it, just use Edit--Copy to copy the image
to the clipboard.
Then paste into your Word doc using Edit--Paste or ^V.
You'll probably want to Edit the picture to reset the reset the boundaries.
I use this all the time for assembly and rework diagrams.
You
Regarding this discussion, I too will add my voice to those who feel
upgrading to DXP and ATS is not a worthy investment at this point. I would
have been much happier if the software had remained much the same as 99SE,
but with greater functionality. Instead of building a whole new interface,
it
do you know for a fact that the basics have all changed as you say here?
do you have DXP?
Dennis Saputelli
Daniel Webster wrote:
Regarding this discussion, I too will add my voice to those who feel
upgrading to DXP and ATS is not a worthy investment at this point. I would
have been much
Dennis: yes I have DXP and have tested it's various functions. Not all
basics have changed, but several well established ways of operating the
software have been changed, and it appears that these have not added
functionality, just made it harder to re-learn the functions of the
software, to
If he did, he isn't supposed to admit it on this list.
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From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 5:32 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] ATS - don't do it! (was restore defaults...)
do you know for a fact that
Hello Daniel,
I hope that you are being careful to not violate any non-disclosure
agreements here
I have used Protel to produce schematics and design boards for many years
and find it an excellent and fair priced tool for the intended job.
(occasional faults and problems along the way)
I'm
On 05:32 PM 10/07/2002 -0700, Dennis Saputelli said:
do you know for a fact that the basics have all changed as you say here?
do you have DXP?
Dennis Saputelli
There is a beta program underway as we all know. There is an NDA
(Non-disclosure agreement) covering the beta testers.
Ian Wilson
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