Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-21 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Foot in the mouth disease is spreading fast. It seems I caught it, too. Mike's idea looks so obvious, someone should have come to this earlier. Combine it with JaMi's idea and it seems to be feasible as an open source project. Is anyone else sick? Is there an antidote? Igor -Original

Re: [PEDA] Annotation woes in Protel DXP

2003-10-21 Thread Kirill 'Big K' Katsnelson
I think I found the problem. In the match components by list-check-box, I had some extra checks. I thought that this list determines how to match components for consecutive numbering (i.e, when an 100k resistor is found an annotated as R42, all other 100k resistors are assigned R43, R44 and so

Re: [PEDA] open source sp7

2003-10-21 Thread Jun Gong
Is Open source good idea? I don't think so. The reasons are: 1) Your work will be eazily stolen by Protel. They may simply copy your algorithm and update their DXP. 2) Protel SDK is very difficult to use, you may result in a buggy ware upone bugg base. 3) I don't think there are more than 10

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-21 Thread JaMi Smith
- Original Message - From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7 ~ ~ ~ . . . Too bad the U.S. Dept of Justice

Re: [PEDA] PCB Heat Sink

2003-10-21 Thread MSIsallen
Leo, A belated thanks for the response. Your link roughly agrees with an application note I found from Micrel. Micrel's application note has a chart showing Thermal Resistance vs. Pad Area. I'm not sure how they came up with it, but it feels correct enough to help keep me out of trouble.

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-21 Thread JaMi Smith
Abd, Sorry I haven't had the time yet to respond to your last dump, although I am still planning on it (and much of it will have to be offline since it is unfit for any of the forums), and responding to this post is not the place to do it, so please stick to the issue at hand here. Please see

[PEDA] [PrU] Wierd Sience

2003-10-21 Thread JaMi Smith
I have not received any posts from PEDA for the last couple of days, so I begin to wonder what is going on with the listserver . . . I go and look at the Techservinc Archive, and it appears to have also stopped a few days ago too . . . Ok, me thinks, is it broken, or is it me . . . So I go

[PEDA] TEST

2003-10-21 Thread JaMi Smith
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[PEDA] Test

2003-10-21 Thread JaMi Smith
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Re: [PEDA] Assembly drawings

2003-10-21 Thread ttontis
Mr. Lomax Thank you for the information it will work for this project. However I would like to have this done automatically, one less thing too worry about and one less thing for someone to forget. I would like to build a server to do what it is I need to have done, I have never tried

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2003-10-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:10 PM 10/16/2003, Chacon Simon, Geoffrey wrote: get-archive proteledaforum subject router Well, partly to note that Geoffry can search the archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ and partly to test the PEDA list, I'm sending this message. (there was another archive

Re: [PEDA] open source sp7

2003-10-21 Thread HxEngr
In a message dated 10/21/2003 3:13:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3) I don't think there are more than 10 people interested in developing Protel server. You will agree with me If you take a look at how many people responded to this message. Don't assume from lack

Re: [PEDA] Non-Concurrent Licence Use (WAS Open source SP7)

2003-10-21 Thread Frank Gilley
At 03:18 PM 10/17/2003 -0700, JaMi Smith wrote: (Referring to Mr Lomax) What the hell are you talking about? Aren't you the guy that has said that it is legitimate for an employee to take his employers Protel 99 SE CD ROM home and install it on his own personal machine (or make a copy for

Re: [PEDA] [PrU] Wierd Sience

2003-10-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
JaMi: Did you mean wierd silence or wierd science? It works either way ;-) Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Protel Developers Forum

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
When Altium tried to go to a maintenance fee arrangement, we screamed loudly enough that they backed down. If there were a maintenance fee, we would have a much better chance of getting service packs How much would we be willing to pay for continued work on 99SE? My guess is that if we

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Ivan, I thought all of that stuff (or at least most of it) was available from the Microsoft Developers Network. and to be more specific, from their Visual Studio, and particularly from the individual SDK's for the different products. Most of it is available through the MSDN, but you gotta

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-21 Thread Jon Elson
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: Ivan, I thought all of that stuff (or at least most of it) was available from the Microsoft Developers Network. and to be more specific, from their Visual Studio, and particularly from the individual SDK's for the different products. Most of it is available

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-21 Thread Jon Elson
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: IMO, the software world is in terrible shape. The main reason free software exists is because some users got tired of being endlessly gouged by commercial software developers' prices and their lack of concern about fixing bugs, and decided to write their own

Re: [PEDA] [PrU] Wierd Sience

2003-10-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:47 PM 10/21/2003, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: Did you mean wierd silence or wierd science? It works either way ;-) It's back up, obviously. And I'm pretty sure it was down, but there is no evidence indicating that any mail was lost; there is at least one message for each day. As is

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:46 PM 10/21/2003, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: I wish I could erase the concept of software maintenance from the world mindset. Software is not a physical thing that can wear out or break. Software Maintenance is market-speak for bug fixing. Yes, plus support and a certain level of

Re: [PEDA] Assembly drawings

2003-10-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:06 PM 10/21/2003, you wrote: Mr. Lomax Thank you for the information it will work for this project. However I would like to have this done automatically, one less thing too worry about and one less thing for someone to forget. I would like to build a server to do what it is I need to

Re: [PEDA] Non-Concurrent Licence Use (WAS Open source SP7)

2003-10-21 Thread JaMi Smith
Frank, The position you describe below is exactly (almost verbatum) the position that I was taking in a previous post (Subject Thread = License Legalities, beginning 9/4/03), where Mr. Lomax was trying to take yet a different position, and I was here chiding him for what I preceived to be a