Re: [PEDA] Suggestions for improving Protel...

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
Hi All, I feel I have to comment on this, maybe a liitle off of Geoff's line but the 2.8 comes into play. I have asked in the past that the pads stack include EVERYTHING down to the plane layers, spokes, spacing, gaps, etc as it was done in 2.8. Geoff, I don't know if you remember but I sent

[PEDA] ON

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
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[PEDA] test

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
Same here Ian, I want my bouce back. Jim * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Not receiving your own mail (Ex: Modifying the Schematic PCB.)

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
Testing your theory. Regards. Jim It seems though that the default is now *off* and you need to turn it *on* if you want to receive your own posts. One assumes by: repro proteledaforum on - I have just sent this body text off for all my subscriptions and I will see what happens. Ian * *

Re: [PEDA] MM's VS Mils

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
they are no longer text and can not be moved as such. David W. Gulley wrote: Jim Mcgrath wrote: Accurate conversion is the key. NOT that metric rules. But what do you do when you live in both worlds? I had a client with a somewhat funnel shaped board and he wanted the assembly drawing for one end

Re: [PEDA] MM's VS Mils

2001-05-07 Thread Jim McGrath
That Was my take also Les Grant wrote: On 14 Mar 2001, at 23:14, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: To be sure. But I think Mr. McGrath missed the point. No one is arguing that one must work in metric. Rather, the issue is the native database units. We, as users, do not necessarily see these

Re: [PEDA] Off Topic Discussions

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
range of issues YES! However, for me and for many other Protel users, this list is mission-critical. It's not a hobby. YES again What follows is the completel Email from Mr. Lomax so you can get the snips in context to be fair. Regards, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. I just received

[PEDA] bounce teat again

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
Sorry all. Test, Jim * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] orcad and focus

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
Andrew, Are you impotring the schematic when you get the messege? If so then yes it is ok. you will find it was in the Orcad cache and doesn't matter to you. If it is in Pcb I can't help sorry. Jim Andrew Xiang wrote: simple thing I cannot figure out: how to focus a part in PCB layout? I

Re: [PEDA] Overlapping Pads

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
Hey All, In most cases I don't have the luxury of modifying the schematic. If possible can you build a footprint with a multylayer pad with a drill zero? If so build one and overlap the pads on the common point to the 2 resistors. Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Afshin, I am sure this is not

Re: [PEDA] My attached diagram disapeard. Flex circuits in Protel

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
Brian, Sorry but I would hope it didn't make it. Regards, Jim McGrath Brian Guralnick wrote: I had a small attachment to the previous letter which didn't come back to me in my echoed letter. Does this forum now kill attachments? _ Brian Guralnick

[PEDA] [Fwd: Removed from proteledaforum]

2001-05-07 Thread Jim McGrath
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Re: [PEDA] EXPORTING TO ORCAD

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
Yves, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: As to PCB files, OrCAD may be able to import a file that you write as a PCB version 2.8 file. Orcad will read a 2.8 ascii dump. Regards, Jim McGrath CAD Connections. Inc. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message

Re: [PEDA] Creating custom design rules?

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
standards, practices or capablities. Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html

Re: [PEDA] Export an IPC-D-356 format Netlist for PWB MFGcircuittesting

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
Terry, I will respond to you comments as best I can. Terry Harris wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:07:30 -0700, Jim McGrath wrote: I hope it isn't that simple - testers, particularly roving probe testers only test continuity from each end of a 'net' + any stubs. For testing non-continuity

Re: [PEDA] Export an IPC-D-356 format Netlist for PWB MFGcircuittesting

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
Brad, As for the original question about obtaining a IPC-D-356 netlist format, I don't think anybody mentioned using ECAM from ACT. My understanding is that they 'may' have been the first to support and generate IPC-D-356 format. Not cheap but my experience with them is they are

Re: [PEDA] Export an IPC-D-356 format Netlist for PWB MFG circuittestingma chine

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
have found others since, but that is what I use. It cost 1500 dollars US. Good luck, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. Michael Biggs wrote: I am using Protel99SE SP6. I have a request from a board manufacture to generate a Netlist for them to use for their test lab for the bare boards

Re: [PEDA] importing DWG files

2001-05-07 Thread Jim McGrath
Ted, Is the Eagle file in mm and the Protel set to inches? I have seen this cause a problem. Regards, Jim Ted Tontis wrote: I am trying to import a DWG file in to Protel. I have a board in Eagle and I am trying to import the board out line and component placement into Protel. When I

Re: [PEDA] Export an IPC-D-356 format Netlist for PWB MFGcircuittesting

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
the gerbers. Yes it is strickley a continuity test but still valuable if the fab house uses it Before fab, which I do require. Again, I have had great results from this process. Regards all, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. Terry Harris wrote: On Tue, 01 May 2001 13:38:09 -0700, Abdulrahman Lomax

Re: [PEDA] Export an IPC-D-356 format Netlist for PWB MFGcircuittesting

2001-05-07 Thread Jim McGrath
Brad, My Version of Ecam says it will import the Ipc-D350 which is different than the D-356. I stopped maintenance on Ecam since Camtastic comes with Protel so what it does after version 6. I'm not sure. I've never seen an option to load Just a cam database netlist. I can't see how that

Re: [PEDA] Export an IPC-D-356 format Netlist for PWB MFGcircuittesting

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
Terry, I also welcome Mr. Henzi Terry Harris wrote: On Tue, 01 May 2001 16:23:18 -0700, Max P. Henzi wrote: Hi Henzi, Glad I managed to prompt some response. If designers do supply PCB manufacturers with D-356 netlists what do you expect manufacturers to actually do with them? As was

Re: [PEDA] Export an IPC-D-356 format Netlist for PWB MFGcircuittesting

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
Sir, That is fair. Regards, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: And my apologies to all for whatever I write that wastes their time. I will note, however, that some writers sometimes go into more detail than I care to follow, and I am aware that I go into more

Re: [PEDA] Export an IPC-D-356 format Netlist for PWB MFGcircuittesting

2001-05-07 Thread Jim Mcgrath
to know if it works for a few future products. Thanks in advance for any verification. Regards, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http

Re: [PEDA] Drawing polygons that contain arcs, is more control possible?

2001-07-18 Thread Jim McGrath
Brad, Have you tried hitting the space bar to toggle modes as you place the polgon? Jim McGrath CAD Connections Inc. Brad Velander wrote: Hi all, one of our engineers just stumped me with a question regarding using arcs in a polygon outline. Has anybody ever found a method

Re: [PEDA] file formats for PCB manufacturers

2001-07-19 Thread Jim McGrath
Brad, Unfortunately it has been my experience that IPC = Dollars. Maybe they have a vested interest and just want another thing to charge for. That's my take anyway. Regards, Jim McGrath CAD Connections Inc. Brad Velander wrote: Jeff, here is my take on this issue. Yes

Re: [PEDA] Fw: Altium - Think it, Design it, Build it!

2001-08-06 Thread Jim McGrath
Hi All, With a clear focus on the design engineer, you can be confident that whatever your professional needs, Altium will meet them with state-of-the-art, accessible, powerful, easy-to-use electronic design tools and consistently high levels of customer service and support. Ut OH! Are they

[PEDA] Alegro Conversion

2001-08-13 Thread Jim McGrath
/strengths of the conversion? Thanks, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email

Re: [PEDA] Alegro Conversion

2001-08-16 Thread Jim McGrath
, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. Colin Weber wrote: I have used the extract command of Allegro and it works well. From memory, It has more options than just the text interface it present the user with. You can drive it without the interface. I found converting the data it presented (using

Re: [PEDA] [AEDA] ClientBasic Import, Export Auto Palette.

2001-08-21 Thread Jim McGrath
Brian, That sounds Great. I remember this basic function on previous CAD packages. The only thing I think I liked better was to have a layer pair bright and the others diminished. Thanks, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. Brian Guralnick wrote: Now that I finished the Client Basic

Re: [PEDA] test

2001-09-06 Thread Jim McGrath
Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers I have now recieved 5 of the bounce messeges. I don't want to go! Regards, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/6/01 1:42:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: could

Re: [PEDA] ATS

2001-11-01 Thread Jim McGrath
packages. The required duplicate resources to maintain and upgrade both just doesn't make sense. ATS may be a precursor to a unified Design package. Regards, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] Polygon problems!

2001-11-09 Thread Jim McGrath
. Regards, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. Coleman, Tim wrote: Hi folks I have a problem with polygons! I can't select the propertise to change them. I can't adjust the vertices, I can't delet them, I can't move them. It's as though they weren't there. I can see them but I can't touch

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

2001-11-21 Thread Jim McGrath
Hi All, I agree completely with this assesment. All the other lite versions I've seen in the past have limits ie. number of components or layers or even pins on a component. Those 3 alone would force the purchase of the expensive package. Regards, Jim McGrath Don Ingram wrote: How many

Re: [PEDA] Protel to pads translator

2001-12-29 Thread Jim McGrath
Curtis, I remember taking a pads PCB file into Protel 2.8. It required a Pads ASCII file to load. Regards, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. curtis mcbride wrote: Could some tell me what the name of the protel to pads translator is and where to aquire

Re: [PEDA] Removing virtual tracks

2002-02-07 Thread Jim McGrath
Bryn, Lots of good ideas are getting posted on this one, I was wondering can you draw a track with the same characteristics somewhere you can easily get at it and select it with global? Then you should be able to delete it and the offending track. Just a thought. Jim McGrath CAD Connections

Re: [PEDA] early days of PCB design

2002-02-09 Thread Jim McGrath
Bob, Remember that you had to develope the film in total darkness? I don't want to go bac either! Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. Bob Wolfe wrote: Yes, fascinating. From my casual reading, I didn't see that the author really recognized the supreme idiocy of red/blue tape. He talked

Re: [PEDA] Beta testing

2002-02-13 Thread Jim McGrath
. If Pheonix is a jump like 99 was to 98 I hope they don't make the same mistake. Regards, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. SP3 (the first SP for Protel 99 SE) came out in fairly short order after the release of the first public version of Protel 99 SE. If the first SP for Phoenix is released

Re: [PEDA] SV: SV: Hard Look at other Programms

2002-09-05 Thread Jim McGrath
Dennis, This is from their site: PCB design import formats: Accel /PCAD Cadstar for Windows OrCAD Layout PADS PowerPCB Ultiboard

Re: [PEDA] Solder mask...

2003-12-22 Thread Jim McGrath
Dennis, Around here they used to call it ganging. Since pitches were not as tight as today it was not recomended. Just a way for a poor fab house to ease its limitations. Regards, Jim Dennis Saputelli wrote: my experience is the same as John's on this issue i.e. do open it up we once

Re: [PEDA] Transparent footprints

2004-01-08 Thread Jim McGrath
Ivan, 2.8 has that option also. Under Options preferences unclick Nearest component and it will list the possibles. Regards, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: The only drawback with this approach is that when selecting components within the footprint you get

[PEDA] DXP to SE

2004-08-13 Thread Jim McGrath
Hello, I know this is not a dxp forum but I'm sure someone can help. Can someone Tell me how to save a dxp file back to SE? Is it as easy as file/save as/ version 4.0? Thanks, Jim McGrath CAD Connections, Inc. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post