Re: [PEDA] (un)hiding part fields
At 08:55 PM 1/18/2004, Ian Wilson wrote: The only problem with the global edit solution (in P99SE) is that it can be a pain undoing the unhide later - particularly when you have some parts where you want to show some or all of the hidden fields. Maintaining a selection during the filed editing can help but is unreliable. It could be said to be reliable -- selections don't just change on their own -- but it is quirky. For example, if you select a part, the displayed part fields appear as selected. But if you then edit one of the fields, the selection box is not checked. I am not sure - can you use an unused field (if you have one) to mark which parts you want to do the unhide and rehide operations? I am not sure if you can match by fields in globals - too long since I used P99SE. Yes, you can match by fields in 99SE global edits. There are a number of oddities in the 99SE treatment of part fields. They are distinct fields, but a global edit on one of them, say Field 15, will edit all of them, not just Part Field 15. So if I wanted to unhide a particular field for many parts, I'd think of editing the field to have, say, XX at the beginning. I'd use the spreadsheet to do this. Then I could use a global edit keyed on XX* to unhide the fields. Then I could use the spreadsheet to remove the XX, and also, if I wanted, rehide hidden fields, or that could be done with a global edit. I'd say that this was an area where Protel Schematic was functional, but not very well executed, not consistent. It would have been easy if the Hide attribute for the fields had been included in spreadsheet export. But it wasn't. I haven't looked at DXP in this regard, but it sounds from Mr. Wilson's comments that DXP does allow spreadsheet or spreadsheet-type access to the necessary fields. But the loss of easy global edits hurts. They could have been improved instead of being completely replaced * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] (un)hiding part fields
On 09:28 AM 15/01/2004, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said: At 05:06 AM 1/14/2004, you wrote: While updating a schematic that has many parts with hidden fields I found that a lot of these hidden fields need to re-appear. After unhiding the part description of several parts in the Sch editor I cannot help but thinking that there must be an easier way than manually following the same sequence over and over: [description of editing a single part deleted] Has anyone found an easier/faster way to achieve this? Sure, use a Global edit. If you need to make all hidden fields appear on all parts, you can pick any part and use it as a base in 99SE for a global edit. Just double-click on it, press the Global button, and check Hidden Fields, -- this should automatically check the Hidden Fields checkbox in the Copy Attributes section -- then accept the edit. All hidden fields on your schematic will appear, you can choose if you want to work with just one schematic or with all schematics in a project, it is an option in the Global dialog. Then double-click on the field you want to make visible on all parts. Press the Global button and unhide the field. Here the selection criteria to use, and exactly how to proceed with the edit, will vary with exactly what you are trying to do. One trick is to select all the parts that you want to affect by the edit, and then use Selection as one of your match criteria. Presumably you don't need to display empty fields, so you can use field matching to hide empty fields. It's worth learning how to use Global Edits in 99SE, they are a very powerful tool. In DXP, it's different I'll leave that to someone else. In DXP you would use the Parameter Manager - a spreadsheet like widget that allows access to all part parameters. No need to open up each part. The only problem with the global edit solution (in P99SE) is that it can be a pain undoing the unhide later - particularly when you have some parts where you want to show some or all of the hidden fields. Maintaining a selection during the filed editing can help but is unreliable. I am not sure - can you use an unused field (if you have one) to mark which parts you want to do the unhide and rehide operations? I am not sure if you can match by fields in globals - too long since I used P99SE. Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] (un)hiding part fields
A belayed happy new year to all my fellow P99SE users. While updating a schematic that has many parts with hidden fields I found that a lot of these hidden fields need to re-appear. After unhiding the part description of several parts in the Sch editor I cannot help but thinking that there must be an easier way than manually following the same sequence over and over: double click part uncheck 'hidden fields' box hit OK double click description field uncheck 'hide' box hit OK double click part check 'hidden fields' box hit OK Has anyone found an easier/faster way to achieve this? I'd like to create a button to do this, but I have no clue how to pursuade Protel to toggle a checkbox in the part properties dialogue (left alone how to assign multiple processes to a single button). Thanks for your input. Leo Potjewijd hardware designer IE Keyprocessor bv. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +31 20 4620700 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] (un)hiding part fields
-Original Message- From: Leo Potjewijd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 January 2004 21:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEDA] (un)hiding part fields there must be an easier way than manually following the same sequence over and over: double click part uncheck 'hidden fields' box hit OK double click description field uncheck 'hide' box hit OK double click part check 'hidden fields' box hit OK There is (do this once); double click part uncheck 'hidden fields' box click global tab hit OK double click description field uncheck 'hide' box click global tab hit OK double click part check 'hidden fields' box click global tab hit OK Tom L. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] (un)hiding part fields
At 05:06 AM 1/14/2004, you wrote: While updating a schematic that has many parts with hidden fields I found that a lot of these hidden fields need to re-appear. After unhiding the part description of several parts in the Sch editor I cannot help but thinking that there must be an easier way than manually following the same sequence over and over: [description of editing a single part deleted] Has anyone found an easier/faster way to achieve this? Sure, use a Global edit. If you need to make all hidden fields appear on all parts, you can pick any part and use it as a base in 99SE for a global edit. Just double-click on it, press the Global button, and check Hidden Fields, -- this should automatically check the Hidden Fields checkbox in the Copy Attributes section -- then accept the edit. All hidden fields on your schematic will appear, you can choose if you want to work with just one schematic or with all schematics in a project, it is an option in the Global dialog. Then double-click on the field you want to make visible on all parts. Press the Global button and unhide the field. Here the selection criteria to use, and exactly how to proceed with the edit, will vary with exactly what you are trying to do. One trick is to select all the parts that you want to affect by the edit, and then use Selection as one of your match criteria. Presumably you don't need to display empty fields, so you can use field matching to hide empty fields. It's worth learning how to use Global Edits in 99SE, they are a very powerful tool. In DXP, it's different I'll leave that to someone else. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
