Re: [PEDA] Altium....Are you guys crazy!!!
The odds seem to be zillion (of us) to one (Altium). The problem with gambling is that the rules are set by the guy who deals the cards. That also means the rules can be changed at any time. Igor -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:dsicon;integratedcontrolsinc.com] Sent: Thursday, 17 October 2002 11:09 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] AltiumAre you guys crazy!!! All of DXP and the reasons for it's development are baffling to me. I refuse to use it. They throw away a good program, push out a pc of junk which is initially entirely non-functional, and then pump us (for free) for details on how it should work. what is the current las vegas betting line on SP7 for 99SE ? Dennis Saputelli Rob Young wrote: Altium, please explain the logic in no longer providing a quantity column in BOM outputs or allowing more than one designator per line. What could have possibly possessed you guys to remove the quantity column in DXP's BOM formats! I am 99% convinced that a quantity option is not in DXP as I have posted this to several forums and in direct emails to Altium with no reply from them. So I must now assume that there is no way to derive a quantity of a particular component in DXP! You can't possibly expect someone to count line by line to find out how many 0.1uF caps are on a board with over 1500 components not to mention how many pages the BOM will span with one designator per line. While not perfect as Don has suggested, the Protel Format in P99SE was workable. With a few more tweaks on Altium's part, it could have been a very good BOM output, but now you guys have removed it all together! Please consider putting the Protel Format BOM or something similar back into DXP. I personally can't seem to work with the current BOM outputs in DXP with their unweildly number of pages. I seriously would have thought that more users would have complained about this, so perhaps I am just being nitpicky, but it just seems like such a basic operation for a BOM output. This is one of the few remaining hurdles left for me in using DXP for an actual project. I'm sure I could resort to using an Excel VB script such as Don has suggested, but while not perfect, the Protel Format has always suited my purposes just fine. Rob - Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Quantity Column in DXP's BOM output Please do!! :) -Original Message- From: Don Mayfield [mailto:djm;aaoepp.aao.GOV.AU] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:04 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Quantity Column in DXP's BOM output Hi Rob, Yes it is a nuisance that we cannot get a breakdown of component quantities, even the Protel format is not always perfect. So, we here use an Excel VB script I wrote to process the BOM, in fact it can select multiple xls files, add a quantity, select fields to match by and select fields to output to a final project BOM. Its fairly basic but seems to work. I could make this available if no other soultion is found. Cheers, Rob Young wrote: I would like to make an attempt to use DXP on some real work despite some of the show stoppers I have listed on the various forums and sent to Altium, however there is one item that I have not been able to resolve yet that is very important in my relationship with assembly houses. That would getting the BOM to list a quantity used for each part value like in P99SE's Protel Format. I would very much appreciate it if anyone could help me find this feature in DXP or if it doesn't exist, maybe Altium would like to comment that this is planned for a future service pack. Rob -- Don Mayfield Anglo-Australian Observatory 167 Vimiera Rd Eastwood NSW 2122 Australia Ph. 61-2-9372-4836 Fax. 61-2-9372-4880 -- ___ www.integratedcontrolsinc.comIntegrated Controls, Inc. tel: 415-647-04802851 21st Street fax: 415-647-3003San Francisco, CA 94110 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Altium....Are you guys crazy!!!
Altium, please explain the logic in no longer providing a quantity column in BOM outputs or allowing more than one designator per line. What could have possibly possessed you guys to remove the quantity column in DXP's BOM formats! I am 99% convinced that a quantity option is not in DXP as I have posted this to several forums and in direct emails to Altium with no reply from them. So I must now assume that there is no way to derive a quantity of a particular component in DXP! You can't possibly expect someone to count line by line to find out how many 0.1uF caps are on a board with over 1500 components not to mention how many pages the BOM will span with one designator per line. While not perfect as Don has suggested, the Protel Format in P99SE was workable. With a few more tweaks on Altium's part, it could have been a very good BOM output, but now you guys have removed it all together! Please consider putting the Protel Format BOM or something similar back into DXP. I personally can't seem to work with the current BOM outputs in DXP with their unweildly number of pages. I seriously would have thought that more users would have complained about this, so perhaps I am just being nitpicky, but it just seems like such a basic operation for a BOM output. This is one of the few remaining hurdles left for me in using DXP for an actual project. I'm sure I could resort to using an Excel VB script such as Don has suggested, but while not perfect, the Protel Format has always suited my purposes just fine. Rob - Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Quantity Column in DXP's BOM output Please do!! :) -Original Message- From: Don Mayfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:04 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Quantity Column in DXP's BOM output Hi Rob, Yes it is a nuisance that we cannot get a breakdown of component quantities, even the Protel format is not always perfect. So, we here use an Excel VB script I wrote to process the BOM, in fact it can select multiple xls files, add a quantity, select fields to match by and select fields to output to a final project BOM. Its fairly basic but seems to work. I could make this available if no other soultion is found. Cheers, Rob Young wrote: I would like to make an attempt to use DXP on some real work despite some of the show stoppers I have listed on the various forums and sent to Altium, however there is one item that I have not been able to resolve yet that is very important in my relationship with assembly houses. That would getting the BOM to list a quantity used for each part value like in P99SE's Protel Format. I would very much appreciate it if anyone could help me find this feature in DXP or if it doesn't exist, maybe Altium would like to comment that this is planned for a future service pack. Rob -- Don Mayfield Anglo-Australian Observatory 167 Vimiera Rd Eastwood NSW 2122 Australia Ph. 61-2-9372-4836 Fax. 61-2-9372-4880 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Altium....Are you guys crazy!!!
Yes, its terrible. I had to export the BOM to Excel and rebuild it using macros. Big nuisance, big hassle. Sincerely, Tim Hutcheson -Original Message- From: Rob Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:14 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEDA] AltiumAre you guys crazy!!! Altium, please explain the logic in no longer providing a quantity column in BOM outputs or allowing more than one designator per line. What could have possibly possessed you guys to remove the quantity column in DXP's BOM formats! I am 99% convinced that a quantity option is not in DXP as I have posted this to several forums and in direct emails to Altium with no reply from them. So I must now assume that there is no way to derive a quantity of a particular component in DXP! You can't possibly expect someone to count line by line to find out how many 0.1uF caps are on a board with over 1500 components not to mention how many pages the BOM will span with one designator per line. While not perfect as Don has suggested, the Protel Format in P99SE was workable. With a few more tweaks on Altium's part, it could have been a very good BOM output, but now you guys have removed it all together! Please consider putting the Protel Format BOM or something similar back into DXP. I personally can't seem to work with the current BOM outputs in DXP with their unweildly number of pages. I seriously would have thought that more users would have complained about this, so perhaps I am just being nitpicky, but it just seems like such a basic operation for a BOM output. This is one of the few remaining hurdles left for me in using DXP for an actual project. I'm sure I could resort to using an Excel VB script such as Don has suggested, but while not perfect, the Protel Format has always suited my purposes just fine. Rob - Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Quantity Column in DXP's BOM output Please do!! :) -Original Message- From: Don Mayfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:04 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Quantity Column in DXP's BOM output Hi Rob, Yes it is a nuisance that we cannot get a breakdown of component quantities, even the Protel format is not always perfect. So, we here use an Excel VB script I wrote to process the BOM, in fact it can select multiple xls files, add a quantity, select fields to match by and select fields to output to a final project BOM. Its fairly basic but seems to work. I could make this available if no other soultion is found. Cheers, Rob Young wrote: I would like to make an attempt to use DXP on some real work despite some of the show stoppers I have listed on the various forums and sent to Altium, however there is one item that I have not been able to resolve yet that is very important in my relationship with assembly houses. That would getting the BOM to list a quantity used for each part value like in P99SE's Protel Format. I would very much appreciate it if anyone could help me find this feature in DXP or if it doesn't exist, maybe Altium would like to comment that this is planned for a future service pack. Rob -- Don Mayfield Anglo-Australian Observatory 167 Vimiera Rd Eastwood NSW 2122 Australia Ph. 61-2-9372-4836 Fax. 61-2-9372-4880 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Altium....Are you guys crazy!!!
All of DXP and the reasons for it's development are baffling to me. I refuse to use it. They throw away a good program, push out a pc of junk which is initially entirely non-functional, and then pump us (for free) for details on how it should work. what is the current las vegas betting line on SP7 for 99SE ? Dennis Saputelli Rob Young wrote: Altium, please explain the logic in no longer providing a quantity column in BOM outputs or allowing more than one designator per line. What could have possibly possessed you guys to remove the quantity column in DXP's BOM formats! I am 99% convinced that a quantity option is not in DXP as I have posted this to several forums and in direct emails to Altium with no reply from them. So I must now assume that there is no way to derive a quantity of a particular component in DXP! You can't possibly expect someone to count line by line to find out how many 0.1uF caps are on a board with over 1500 components not to mention how many pages the BOM will span with one designator per line. While not perfect as Don has suggested, the Protel Format in P99SE was workable. With a few more tweaks on Altium's part, it could have been a very good BOM output, but now you guys have removed it all together! Please consider putting the Protel Format BOM or something similar back into DXP. I personally can't seem to work with the current BOM outputs in DXP with their unweildly number of pages. I seriously would have thought that more users would have complained about this, so perhaps I am just being nitpicky, but it just seems like such a basic operation for a BOM output. This is one of the few remaining hurdles left for me in using DXP for an actual project. I'm sure I could resort to using an Excel VB script such as Don has suggested, but while not perfect, the Protel Format has always suited my purposes just fine. Rob - Original Message - From: Tony Karavidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Quantity Column in DXP's BOM output Please do!! :) -Original Message- From: Don Mayfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:04 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Quantity Column in DXP's BOM output Hi Rob, Yes it is a nuisance that we cannot get a breakdown of component quantities, even the Protel format is not always perfect. So, we here use an Excel VB script I wrote to process the BOM, in fact it can select multiple xls files, add a quantity, select fields to match by and select fields to output to a final project BOM. Its fairly basic but seems to work. I could make this available if no other soultion is found. Cheers, Rob Young wrote: I would like to make an attempt to use DXP on some real work despite some of the show stoppers I have listed on the various forums and sent to Altium, however there is one item that I have not been able to resolve yet that is very important in my relationship with assembly houses. That would getting the BOM to list a quantity used for each part value like in P99SE's Protel Format. I would very much appreciate it if anyone could help me find this feature in DXP or if it doesn't exist, maybe Altium would like to comment that this is planned for a future service pack. Rob -- Don Mayfield Anglo-Australian Observatory 167 Vimiera Rd Eastwood NSW 2122 Australia Ph. 61-2-9372-4836 Fax. 61-2-9372-4880 -- ___ www.integratedcontrolsinc.comIntegrated Controls, Inc. tel: 415-647-04802851 21st Street fax: 415-647-3003San Francisco, CA 94110 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
