Re: [PEDA] DXP switch

2003-07-30 Thread Frank Gilley
I can tell you about a certain issue with installation on a dual boot 
98/2000 box, but I doubt that is your situation.
I haven't tested it with one of the newer CD's that come with SP2 already 
on them, since I don't have one.  Perhaps this issue no longer exists.

What happens is 10 of the DXP template files are flagged by various disk 
repair utilities as having invalid long file names when the disk is checked 
on the Win98 side.  This wouldn't be much of a problem except most disk 
utilities want to delete the long file names.  Win2000 utilities report no 
problem.  It is easily fixed by zipping up the templates, deleting the 
originals and then unzipping them back into the original directory.

Thought I would mention it just in case.

Frank

At 12:24 PM 7/29/2003 -0300, you wrote:
Well, I've been informed that I'm going to be switching to DXP. Does anybody
have any words of wisdom to make this switch a little easier?
Are there any issues with loading DXP onto the same machine with 99SE?

Tim Fifield


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[PEDA] DXP switch

2003-07-29 Thread Tim Fifield
Well, I've been informed that I'm going to be switching to DXP. Does anybody
have any words of wisdom to make this switch a little easier?

Are there any issues with loading DXP onto the same machine with 99SE?

Tim Fifield



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Re: [PEDA] DXP switch

2003-07-29 Thread Leopold, Mark
Tim,

I have been running DXP and 99SE on the same machine (running Windows 2000) for some 
time now without any problems.

As far as making the switch goes, I just kept all my 99SE designs in 99SE and any new 
designs, I do in DXP.  I wanted to avoid any and all headaches trying to convert the 
designs.  It has worked so far!

Mark Leopold

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 Well, I've been informed that I'm going to be switching to DXP. Does anybody
 have any words of wisdom to make this switch a little easier?
 
 Are there any issues with loading DXP onto the same machine with 99SE?
 
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Re: [PEDA] DXP switch

2003-07-29 Thread Back, Norb
Dont

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Well, I've been informed that I'm going to be switching to DXP. Does anybody
have any words of wisdom to make this switch a little easier?

Are there any issues with loading DXP onto the same machine with 99SE?

Tim Fifield




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Re: [PEDA] DXP switch

2003-07-29 Thread Dennis Saputelli
good luck and please keep us posted re your transition

re DXP and SE on same machine
i don't see any major issues or conflicts
just some annoying minor things having to do with DXP hijacking file
associations

after a rather brief foray into DXP i decided it was not for me, 
i didn't want to make the investment of time for gains which were not
and are still not apparent to me

Dennis Saputelli

Tim Fifield wrote:
 
 Well, I've been informed that I'm going to be switching to DXP. Does anybody
 have any words of wisdom to make this switch a little easier?
 
 Are there any issues with loading DXP onto the same machine with 99SE?
 
 Tim Fifield
 

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Re: [PEDA] DXP switch

2003-07-29 Thread John A. Ross [Design]
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 Subject: [PEDA] DXP switch
 
 
 Well, I've been informed that I'm going to be switching to 
 DXP. Does anybody have any words of wisdom to make this 
 switch a little easier?

Tim

Be prepared for a major change in your Protel  design work flow. You
can d/l all the manuals and tutorials now from the Protel web site, read
them carefully, take time over how projects are treated, connectivity is
done and especially the sections on queries. 

A serious change at that. It takes a considerable bit of getting used
to.

But some features are a lot better, there are mixed opinions from all
sides over how productive it is compared to P99SE. 

At present I personally do not find it as productive as 99SE, although
after using some of the features in DXP I do miss them when working in
99SE. 

Currently I am trying to develop my 'DXP skills' to see if I can get to
a productive level with it, but this will take time. IMO I am not really
helping myself by jumping back/forward between the packages but due to
current constraints on my time I have no choice as I cannot in all
conscience charge customers, or take internal cost hits for my 'learning
time'.  

For DXP updates  info you should register at
http://forums.altium.com/cgi-bin/info.asp which is an Altium list
server. 

You will read there a lot of different opinions on DXP, some good, some
bad, some really bad, some hopefully optimistic the Situs router will
become what everyone hoped ( expected it to be) but best way is to make
a concentrated effort to learn the beast for yourself.

 Are there any issues with loading DXP onto the same machine with 99SE?

No problems I am aware of, I use both on same workstation all day,
swapping back  forth whenever I want to see if DXF can do it better
than 99SE.

Good luck

Best Regards

John A. Ross

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Re: [PEDA] DXP switch

2003-07-29 Thread Robert . Gillatt

Have they made any improvements to the Signal Integrity tool? Would be
worth it's weight (?) if it worked properly.
Robert



   
 
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good luck and please keep us posted re your transition

re DXP and SE on same machine
i don't see any major issues or conflicts
just some annoying minor things having to do with DXP hijacking file
associations

after a rather brief foray into DXP i decided it was not for me,
i didn't want to make the investment of time for gains which were not
and are still not apparent to me

Dennis Saputelli

Tim Fifield wrote:

 Well, I've been informed that I'm going to be switching to DXP. Does
anybody
 have any words of wisdom to make this switch a little easier?

 Are there any issues with loading DXP onto the same machine with 99SE?

 Tim Fifield


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Re: [PEDA] DXP switch

2003-07-29 Thread Natalie DeGennaro
Tim,

I am running on an XP machine, with both 99SE and DXP. I have had no 
problems except that our email software (Lotus Notes) requires us to login 
to Thin Client on a Citrix Neighborhood platform. I usually keep my email 
up and running all day. Our OS for the Citrix just changed from win98 to 
Win2000 Server. As soon as that happened, I have all kinds of irritating 
problems with 99SE but not DXP. 99SE can't find board files, but when I do 
a search for them, they are there. I will be working along in 99SE and all 
of a sudden it gets lost and I have to wait to get my control back until 
its found again. Its VERY annoying! As soon as all our Engineers are 
upgraded to DXP, then I can dump 99SE. Altium won't support this issue and 
we didn't pay for support anyway, so I'm SOL until the switch. I can still 
design boards in 99SE and send them out for fab, its just not much fun to 
do so. I suspect that the problem has something to do with Win2000 Server 
software and my local XP (our Protel licenses are floating on the network 
- I think).

Anyway, good luck with yours!

Natalie DeGennaro





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Are there any issues with loading DXP onto the same machine with 99SE?

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