Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF

2004-04-28 Thread Mira
Use Camtastic and export the DXF files from there.

Mira

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 Our draftsman tells us that the multi-layer issue is
 not so much of a problem.  Our real problem, it
 seems, is that when Protel exports a drawing
 (regardless of whether it's in DWG or DXF format and
 regardless of whether it is exported as block or
 primitives)he cannot explode the drawing into a
 useable format.
 
 He is using Autocad 14.  Is there any way to export
 drawings in a form where Autocad can resolve it into
 a number of unfilled polygons?
 
 Thanx,
 
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Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF

2004-04-28 Thread Dennis Saputelli
not exactly sure what your last sentence means - copper pours?

what is the purpose of the conversion?

we do the export as primitives with square ends

we generally delete most of the layers incl:
top, bottom, pastes, solder, keepout and more
in the course of deleting all of that the copper pours go away

this leaves the layers:
outline, multi, topoverlay, maybe something else

after deleting most of the layers we do an explode ALL
in acad 2002

i think (but am not sure i remember this exactly) that acad R14 needs 
to do explode object by object
that would obviously not be acceptable

look around for a LISP program that will do explode all
in R14
there is something called BOMB and there are others
try
cadalog.com
for freeware lisp stuff

Dennis Saputelli


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Greetings the List,
 
 Our draftsman tells us that the multi-layer issue is not so much of a problem.  Our 
 real problem, it seems, is that when Protel exports a drawing (regardless of whether 
 it's in DWG or DXF format and regardless of whether it is exported as block or 
 primitives)he cannot explode the drawing into a useable format.
 
 He is using Autocad 14.  Is there any way to export drawings in a form where Autocad 
 can resolve it into a number of unfilled polygons?
 
 Thanx,
 
 Michael Badillo

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Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF

2004-04-28 Thread ravenrux
Thanx.

Michael

From: Mira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2004/04/28 Wed AM 09:44:29 EDT
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF

Use Camtastic and export the DXF files from there.

Mira

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings the List,
 
 Our draftsman tells us that the multi-layer issue is
 not so much of a problem.  Our real problem, it
 seems, is that when Protel exports a drawing
 (regardless of whether it's in DWG or DXF format and
 regardless of whether it is exported as block or
 primitives)he cannot explode the drawing into a
 useable format.
 
 He is using Autocad 14.  Is there any way to export
 drawings in a form where Autocad can resolve it into
 a number of unfilled polygons?
 
 Thanx,
 
 Michael Badillo
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF

2004-04-28 Thread ravenrux
Our draftsman is preparing documentation for our technicians.  On our old CAD (DCCADD) 
he could take our DXF files (which were filled polygons) and explode them into 
unfilled polygons.  When he does this for Protel, he gets lines with large dots on the 
ends.

The ground planes (I think the same as copper pours) are not really a problem.  It is 
the pads and traces that don't explode in a manner he likes.

Michael

From: Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2004/04/28 Wed AM 10:54:21 EDT
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF

not exactly sure what your last sentence means - copper pours?

what is the purpose of the conversion?

we do the export as primitives with square ends

we generally delete most of the layers incl:
top, bottom, pastes, solder, keepout and more
in the course of deleting all of that the copper pours go away

this leaves the layers:
outline, multi, topoverlay, maybe something else

after deleting most of the layers we do an explode ALL
in acad 2002

i think (but am not sure i remember this exactly) that acad R14 needs 
to do explode object by object
that would obviously not be acceptable

look around for a LISP program that will do explode all
in R14
there is something called BOMB and there are others
try
cadalog.com
for freeware lisp stuff

Dennis Saputelli


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Greetings the List,
 
 Our draftsman tells us that the multi-layer issue is not so much of a problem.  Our 
 real problem, it seems, is that when Protel exports a drawing (regardless of whether 
 it's in DWG or DXF format and regardless of whether it is exported as block or 
 primitives)he cannot explode the drawing into a useable format.
 
 He is using Autocad 14.  Is there any way to export drawings in a form where Autocad 
 can resolve it into a number of unfilled polygons?
 
 Thanx,
 
 Michael Badillo

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Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF

2004-04-28 Thread Steve Smith
When you export, select export with square ends.
This will eliminate the dots.

My regards,
Steve Smith, C.I.D.
Product Engineer

Staco Energy Products Co.
301 Gaddis Boulevard.
Dayton, OH 45403
Telephone: (937) 253-1191 Ext. 158
Fax: (937) 253-1723
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Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com 
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:50 AM
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF
 
 
 Our draftsman is preparing documentation for our technicians. 
  On our old CAD (DCCADD) he could take our DXF files (which 
 were filled polygons) and explode them into unfilled 
 polygons.  When he does this for Protel, he gets lines with 
 large dots on the ends.
 
 The ground planes (I think the same as copper pours) are not 
 really a problem.  It is the pads and traces that don't 
 explode in a manner he likes.
 
 Michael
 
 From: Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2004/04/28 Wed AM 10:54:21 EDT
 To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF
 
 not exactly sure what your last sentence means - copper pours?
 
 what is the purpose of the conversion?
 
 we do the export as primitives with square ends
 
 we generally delete most of the layers incl:
 top, bottom, pastes, solder, keepout and more
 in the course of deleting all of that the copper pours go away
 
 this leaves the layers:
 outline, multi, topoverlay, maybe something else
 
 after deleting most of the layers we do an explode ALL
 in acad 2002
 
 i think (but am not sure i remember this exactly) that acad R14 needs 
 to do explode object by object
 that would obviously not be acceptable
 
 look around for a LISP program that will do explode all
 in R14
 there is something called BOMB and there are others
 try
 cadalog.com
 for freeware lisp stuff
 
 Dennis Saputelli
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Greetings the List,
  
  Our draftsman tells us that the multi-layer issue is not so 
 much of a problem.  Our real problem, it seems, is that when 
 Protel exports a drawing (regardless of whether it's in DWG 
 or DXF format and regardless of whether it is exported as 
 block or primitives)he cannot explode the drawing into a 
 useable format.
  
  He is using Autocad 14.  Is there any way to export 
 drawings in a form where Autocad can resolve it into a number 
 of unfilled polygons?
  
  Thanx,
  
  Michael Badillo
 
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 Integrated Controls, Inc.   Tel: 415-647-0480  EXT 107 
 2851 21st StreetFax: 415-647-3003
 San Francisco, CA 94110 www.integratedcontrolsinc.com
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF

2004-04-27 Thread Eccleston, Barry
I have found Camtastic the best option. You can read in your gerber files
and export to dxf. You can select the layers you want to export.
You will have to rename the layers in Camtastic, otherwise the layers will
come out on a single layer in the dxf.
Barry

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Subject: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF


Greetings the List,

I have been trying to export individual layers of a Protel design to DWG or
DXF format.  When I look at the exported files, they have all of the layers
on them.  Turning off the layers doesn't help.  

Does anyone out there know if there is a way to export only a selected set
of layers to DXF/DWG format?

Thanx,
Michael Badillo





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Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF

2004-04-27 Thread Ian Wilson
On 11:50 PM 26/04/2004, Mr. Zhang Yangtian said:
Maybe the only way is to do some AutoCAD operation to delete/keep the 
selected layer. I met a problem just now, that under protelDXP, when I 
select Save copy as menu and save the pcb file as a .dwg file, nothing 
happen, I mean that there is no .dwg file is created. I do not know why.
Known bug in DXP - use Save As instead of Save Copy As.

Again - I think this issue is logged on the Protel KB.

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Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF

2004-04-27 Thread Kulajew Waldemar
Michael,

one more foot-in-the-mouth-workaround:
deleting unused layers and create your DWG/DXF

in 99SE: s/a (select/al) unselect the Layer you need (x/y),
delete selection (ctrl/del)
File export to DWG/DXF with a new name.
undo.
select al... 
etc.etc.

Just my 2 eurocents ;-)


Waldemar

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Subject: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF


Greetings the List,

I have been trying to export individual layers of a Protel 
design to DWG or DXF format.  When I look at the exported 
files, they have all of the layers on them.  Turning off the 
layers doesn't help.  

Does anyone out there know if there is a way to export only a 
selected set of layers to DXF/DWG format?

Thanx,
Michael Badillo


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Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF

2004-04-26 Thread Mr. Zhang Yangtian
Maybe the only way is to do some AutoCAD operation to delete/keep the selected layer. 
I met a problem just now, that under protelDXP, when I select Save copy as menu and 
save the pcb file as a .dwg file, nothing happen, I mean that there is no .dwg 
file is created. I do not know why.


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Greetings the List,

I have been trying to export individual layers of a Protel design to DWG or DXF 
format.  When I look at the exported files, they have all of the layers on them.  
Turning off the layers doesn't help.  

Does anyone out there know if there is a way to export only a selected set of layers 
to DXF/DWG format?

Thanx,
Michael Badillo




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Re: [PEDA] Exporting DWG/DXF

2004-04-26 Thread Ian Wilson
On 11:00 PM 26/04/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Greetings the List,

I have been trying to export individual layers of a Protel design to DWG 
or DXF format.  When I look at the exported files, they have all of the 
layers on them.  Turning off the layers doesn't help.
No there is no way of exporting just specific layers - there has been 
recent discussion on this on the dxp forum.  Being able to export specific 
layers (and also being able to specify all line and text widths as zero) 
are long overdue requests.  Still not available in DXP or P2004 - but 
hopefully the recent discussion on the dxp forum will have registered at 
Altium.  This won't help P99SE though.

You can remove the layers in the CAD program of your choice - or you could 
massage the exported file in some script to extract just the layers you 
want.  It may be possible to copy and paste just the layers you want to a 
new PCB but this is likely to be unreliable and as messy as editing the 
DXF/DWG files.

Ian



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