[PEDA] Hanging Track
Hi All, Does anyone know how to detect a hanging track in PCB? I. E. a track from a via or pad that goes nowhere. Thanks again, Dave Babcock Chief Engineer Cardinal Components, Inc. email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 973-785-1333x565 Fax: 973-785-0053 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track
If you find out let use know :-) These get picked up by our PCB house, who, with our permission, scratch them off the gerber data. Sometimes they're required in our designs, but not often. There isn't a single tool I'm aware of that will spot these, but you could try a combination of viewing in single layer mode and setting pads to draft so that tracks show up more obviously. Other things you can do are to select each net in turn in the PCB explorer and zoom into it to see if you can see any straggling lines, or if the net looks peculiar in any way - I use this more to get rid of silly loops. Does anyone know how to detect a hanging track in PCB? I. E. a track from a via or pad that goes nowhere. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track
Is that like a dangling participle? Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc. 102 Grove Street Worcester, MA 01605 (TEL) 508.754.4858 x33 (FAX) 413.541.6170 - Original Message - From: Dave Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: [PEDA] Hanging Track Hi All, Does anyone know how to detect a hanging track in PCB? I. E. a track from a via or pad that goes nowhere. Thanks again, Dave Babcock Chief Engineer Cardinal Components, Inc. email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 973-785-1333x565 Fax: 973-785-0053 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track
From: Andrew Ircha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] If you find out let use know :-) These get picked up by our PCB house, who, with our permission, scratch them off the gerber data. Sometimes they're required in our designs, but not often. There isn't a single tool I'm aware of that will spot these, The old (and absolutely superb, yet to be improved on, in my opinion) OrCAD PCB386+ (DOS product circa 1993) did this very nicely, with a 'Cleanup Stubs' function. I used to run the function several times an hour, and always before committing to Gerber. Not much use as a solution for you - I just wanted to extol the virtues of a dead but not forgotten classic! (anybody know where I can get a copy that isn't dongled?!?!?! ;o] ) Steve. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track
Same here - it's amazing how much router fallout the Mk.1 eyeball can find :-) Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Andrew Ircha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 February 2002 16:28 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track If you find out let use know :-) These get picked up by our PCB house, who, with our permission, scratch them off the gerber data. Sometimes they're required in our designs, but not often. There isn't a single tool I'm aware of that will spot these, but you could try a combination of viewing in single layer mode and setting pads to draft so that tracks show up more obviously. Other things you can do are to select each net in turn in the PCB explorer and zoom into it to see if you can see any straggling lines, or if the net looks peculiar in any way - I use this more to get rid of silly loops. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track
I believe it is more like hanging Chads... That brings back bad memories.. too.. At 11:35 AM 2/1/2002 -0500, you wrote: Is that like a dangling participle? Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc. 102 Grove Street Worcester, MA 01605 (TEL) 508.754.4858 x33 (FAX) 413.541.6170 - Original Message - From: Dave Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: [PEDA] Hanging Track Hi All, Does anyone know how to detect a hanging track in PCB? I. E. a track from a via or pad that goes nowhere. Thanks again, Dave Babcock Chief Engineer Cardinal Components, Inc. email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 973-785-1333x565 Fax: 973-785-0053 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track
Nothing can beat the MK1 MOD1 eyeball. My last job, I had a boss and an engineer constantly refuse to review my work, claiming that the software should catch all the errors. Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc. 102 Grove Street Worcester, MA 01605 (TEL) 508.754.4858 x33 (FAX) 413.541.6170 - Original Message - From: Andy Gulliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track Same here - it's amazing how much router fallout the Mk.1 eyeball can find :-) Regards Andy Gulliver -Original Message- From: Andrew Ircha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 February 2002 16:28 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track If you find out let use know :-) These get picked up by our PCB house, who, with our permission, scratch them off the gerber data. Sometimes they're required in our designs, but not often. There isn't a single tool I'm aware of that will spot these, but you could try a combination of viewing in single layer mode and setting pads to draft so that tracks show up more obviously. Other things you can do are to select each net in turn in the PCB explorer and zoom into it to see if you can see any straggling lines, or if the net looks peculiar in any way - I use this more to get rid of silly loops. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track
That and I especially miss the k command. Put the mouse on a segment and press k to cut the segment right there. Protel's Loop Removal sometimes just can't figure it out. Jeff Stout - Original Message - From: Stephen Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track [snip] The old (and absolutely superb, yet to be improved on, in my opinion) OrCAD PCB386+ (DOS product circa 1993) did this very nicely, with a 'Cleanup Stubs' function. [snip] Steve. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track
At 12:13 PM 2/1/2002 -0600, Jeff Stout wrote: That and I especially miss the k command. Put the mouse on a segment and press k to cut the segment right there. Protel's Loop Removal sometimes just can't figure it out. Loop Removal is pretty reliable *if* it is used, essentially, the way that it works. Sometimes redrawing part of the segment over the line to be cut will accomplish the matter. Edit/Move/Reroute works to break track into segments, but it would be better to have a quick command that would take an existing track and break it at the nearest point on the track to the current cursor position. This is *not* what Reroute does. Reroute will break the track, yes, but the new endpoint pops to grid. I won't explain why this is sometimes a nuisance. Anyway, most of the time placing new track with loop removal on will do, very quickly, what is needed. Try this. Place a series of track segments, starting on some primitive that has a net assigned (or assign the net with TAB, but simply staring in contact is faster). Leave this as a stub. Make sure that loop removal and electrical snap are turned on. Place a new track at some point on any part of the first track and run it a short distance over the first track before going off somewhere else. Protel will rip up the original track, including any stubs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abdulrahman Lomax Easthampton, Massachusetts USA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *