[PEDA] Hanging Track

2002-02-01 Thread Dave Babcock

Hi All,

Does anyone know how to detect a hanging track in PCB?  I. E. a track from a
via or pad that goes nowhere.

Thanks again,
Dave Babcock
Chief Engineer
Cardinal Components, Inc.
email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 973-785-1333x565
Fax: 973-785-0053


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Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track

2002-02-01 Thread Andrew Ircha

If you find out let use know :-)

These get picked up by our PCB house, who, with our permission, scratch
them off the gerber data. Sometimes they're required in our designs, but
not often.

There isn't a single tool I'm aware of that will spot these, but you could
try a combination of viewing in single layer mode and setting pads to draft
so that tracks show up more obviously. Other things you can do are to
select each net in turn in the PCB explorer and zoom into it to see if you
can see any straggling lines, or if the net looks peculiar in any way - I
use this more to get rid of silly loops.

 Does anyone know how to detect a hanging track in PCB?  I. E. a track
 from a via or pad that goes nowhere.



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Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track

2002-02-01 Thread Sean James

Is that like a dangling participle?
Sean James
PCB Designer
Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc.
102 Grove Street
Worcester, MA 01605
(TEL) 508.754.4858 x33
(FAX) 413.541.6170

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From: Dave Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:02 AM
Subject: [PEDA] Hanging Track


 Hi All,

 Does anyone know how to detect a hanging track in PCB?  I. E. a track from
a
 via or pad that goes nowhere.

 Thanks again,
 Dave Babcock
 Chief Engineer
 Cardinal Components, Inc.
 email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Phone: 973-785-1333x565
 Fax: 973-785-0053




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Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track

2002-02-01 Thread Stephen Casey

 From: Andrew Ircha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 If you find out let use know :-)

 These get picked up by our PCB house, who, with our permission, scratch
 them off the gerber data. Sometimes they're required in our designs, but
 not often.

 There isn't a single tool I'm aware of that will spot these,

The old (and absolutely superb, yet to be improved on, in my opinion) OrCAD
PCB386+ (DOS product circa 1993) did this very nicely, with a 'Cleanup
Stubs' function. I used to run the function several times an hour, and
always before committing to Gerber. Not much use as a solution for you - I
just wanted to extol the virtues of a dead but not forgotten classic!
(anybody know where I can get a copy that isn't dongled?!?!?! ;o]  )

Steve.

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Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track

2002-02-01 Thread Andy Gulliver

Same here - it's amazing how much router fallout the Mk.1 eyeball can find
:-)

Regards

Andy Gulliver

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 01 February 2002 16:28
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track


 If you find out let use know :-)

 These get picked up by our PCB house, who, with our permission, scratch
 them off the gerber data. Sometimes they're required in our designs, but
 not often.

 There isn't a single tool I'm aware of that will spot these, but you could
 try a combination of viewing in single layer mode and setting
 pads to draft
 so that tracks show up more obviously. Other things you can do are to
 select each net in turn in the PCB explorer and zoom into it to see if you
 can see any straggling lines, or if the net looks peculiar in any way - I
 use this more to get rid of silly loops.

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Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track

2002-02-01 Thread Samuel Cox \Sam\

I believe it is more like hanging  Chads...

That brings back bad memories.. too..


At 11:35 AM 2/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Is that like a dangling participle?
Sean James
PCB Designer
Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc.
102 Grove Street
Worcester, MA 01605
(TEL) 508.754.4858 x33
(FAX) 413.541.6170

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From: Dave Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:02 AM
Subject: [PEDA] Hanging Track


  Hi All,
 
  Does anyone know how to detect a hanging track in PCB?  I. E. a track from
a
  via or pad that goes nowhere.
 
  Thanks again,
  Dave Babcock
  Chief Engineer
  Cardinal Components, Inc.
  email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Phone: 973-785-1333x565
  Fax: 973-785-0053
 
 
 

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Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track

2002-02-01 Thread Sean James

Nothing can beat the MK1 MOD1 eyeball. My last job, I had a boss and an
engineer constantly refuse to review my work, claiming that the software
should catch all the errors.
Sean James
PCB Designer
Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc.
102 Grove Street
Worcester, MA 01605
(TEL) 508.754.4858 x33
(FAX) 413.541.6170

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From: Andy Gulliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track


 Same here - it's amazing how much router fallout the Mk.1 eyeball can find
 :-)

 Regards

 Andy Gulliver

  -Original Message-
  From: Andrew Ircha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 01 February 2002 16:28
  To: Protel EDA Forum
  Subject: Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track
 
 
  If you find out let use know :-)
 
  These get picked up by our PCB house, who, with our permission, scratch
  them off the gerber data. Sometimes they're required in our designs, but
  not often.
 
  There isn't a single tool I'm aware of that will spot these, but you
could
  try a combination of viewing in single layer mode and setting
  pads to draft
  so that tracks show up more obviously. Other things you can do are to
  select each net in turn in the PCB explorer and zoom into it to see if
you
  can see any straggling lines, or if the net looks peculiar in any way -
I
  use this more to get rid of silly loops.



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Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track

2002-02-01 Thread Jeff Stout

That and I especially miss the k command.  Put the mouse on
a segment and press k to cut the segment right there.  Protel's
Loop Removal sometimes just can't figure it out.

Jeff Stout


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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track

[snip]

 The old (and absolutely superb, yet to be improved on, in my opinion)
OrCAD
 PCB386+ (DOS product circa 1993) did this very nicely, with a 'Cleanup
 Stubs' function.
[snip]

 Steve.


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Re: [PEDA] Hanging Track

2002-02-01 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 12:13 PM 2/1/2002 -0600, Jeff Stout wrote:
That and I especially miss the k command.  Put the mouse on
a segment and press k to cut the segment right there.  Protel's
Loop Removal sometimes just can't figure it out.

Loop Removal is pretty reliable *if* it is used, essentially, the way that 
it works. Sometimes redrawing part of the segment over the line to be cut 
will accomplish the matter.

Edit/Move/Reroute works to break track into segments, but it would be 
better to have a quick command that would take an existing track and break 
it at the nearest point on the track to the current cursor position. This 
is *not* what Reroute does. Reroute will break the track, yes, but the new 
endpoint pops to grid. I won't explain why this is sometimes a 
nuisance. Anyway, most of the time placing new track with loop removal 
on will do, very quickly, what is needed.

Try this. Place a series of track segments, starting on some primitive that 
has a net assigned (or assign the net with TAB, but simply staring in 
contact is faster). Leave this as a stub. Make sure that loop removal and 
electrical snap are turned on. Place a new track at some point on any part 
of the first track and run it a short distance over the first track before 
going off somewhere else. Protel will rip up the original track, including 
any stubs.


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Easthampton, Massachusetts USA

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