Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-18 Thread JaMi Smith

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-18 Thread Bob Jones
! - Original Message - From: Bob Jones To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines Here's the problem: 2 identical computers, Compaq 500 Mhz, bought at the same time, same place, 2 years ago. computer 1 has 440

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-18 Thread Brian Guralnick
| Here's the problem: | 2 identical computers, Compaq 500 Mhz, bought at the same time, same place, | 2 years ago. | | computer 1 has 440 MB Ram , 2650 virtual memory free, recently defragged and | software newly loaded. | | computer 2 has 216 MB Ram, 850 virtual memory free. | | Now the problem:

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-18 Thread John Williams
Bob Jones wrote: I want to thank all those who responded. I may have sent people in the wrong direction by comparing 2 machines. Forget that there is another machine involved, it should not take 8 seconds to move text on an 0805 type part and 2 minutes plus on a larger chip. I will try to

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-18 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:03 AM 2/18/2002 -0500, Bob Jones wrote: 1). Andrew Jenkins suggested: bad memory result:ran all type of diagnostics, everything passes. I also removed memory boards to see if anything changed. bad memory is therefore unlikely. Not impossible, but unlikely. 2). Mike Reagan suggested:

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-18 Thread Dennis Saputelli
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: 3). Clive Broome suggested: network result: These machines are on a network, but they always have. The slow machine is the host. machines loading PCB libs over the network can take a LONG time to start up compared to when the libs are on the local machine

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-18 Thread Michael Reagan
today if I can (some work needs to get done). Anyone else with advise, keep it coming! - Original Message - From: Bob Jones To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines Here's the problem: 2

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-18 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:51 AM 18/02/2002 -0500, Brian Guralnick said: Q3: Have you tried a general windows system performance gauge on each system? Not sure what you should use, maybe someone in the group could recommend a good tool. http://www.sisoftware.demon.co.uk/sandra/index.htm would be one option -

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-18 Thread Dwight
1) Check file system settings -- Control Panel | System, Performance tab, File system, is typical use (or something like that) set to Desktop, or to Server? If set to Server, then (I think) network requests are given priority over local apps, which could account for slowdown. 2) Try disabling

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-18 Thread Clive . Broome
Was Protel loaded and working well prior to the defrag? ___ Clive Broome IDT Sydney Design CentrePh: +61 2 9763 3513 8 Bayswater Dr, HomebushFax:+61 2 9763 3409 Sydney, NSW, 2127

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-14 Thread Rene Tschaggelar
One of the biggest performance leaks is the automatic indexing done when you install Microsoft office components such as Word. I don't have the files at hand that have to be removed from autostart, but it shouldn't be that hard to find them. Rene Bob Jones wrote: [ performance drops ] * * *

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-14 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:49 AM 2/14/2002 +1100, Graeme Zimmer wrote: If you don't like funky fonts colours and sizes then maybe you shouldn't read the HTML version of the email. How ? For many readers there is simply no option. I don't think it is the case for Techserv, or if it is, I have no idea how to do

[PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-14 Thread Sar Saloth
On older machines there is a significant limit to the amount of main memory that is cache-able, even if you increase the cache size, due to the TAG RAM limitations. Compaq typically didn't put any extras in their machines. My desktop until last summer, a Pentium MMX233, had a cache-able RAM

[PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-14 Thread Sar Saloth
Also, you have too much virtual memory on machine 1. 800MB virtual should be good for your 440MB RAM machine. The speed of the disk controller for your virtual section (I assume a fixed contiguous virtual memory page one a different drive than your data?) Controllers and drivers can have a

[PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-13 Thread Bob Jones
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Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-13 Thread lloyd . good
Bob, First thing, please get rid of the italisized text in your email. It makes it very difficult to read. I'm getting old and spent way too much time looking at a computer screen so any more fuzzy printing makes me think its my eyes going bad. Anyway, what Operating system are you running on

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:54 PM 2/13/2002 -0500, Bob Jones wrote: Here's the problem: 2 identical computers, Compaq 500 Mhz, bought at the same time, same place, 2 years ago. computer 1 has 440 MB Ram , 2650 virtual memory free, recently defragged and software newly loaded. computer 2 has 216 MB Ram, 850 virtual

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-13 Thread Terry Harris
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:55:06 -0500, Lloyd Good wrote: First thing, please get rid of the italisized text in your email. It makes it very difficult to read. I'm getting old and spent way too much time looking at a computer screen so any more fuzzy printing makes me think its my eyes going bad.

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-13 Thread Andrew Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-13 Thread Graeme Zimmer
Terry, If you don't like funky fonts colours and sizes then maybe you shouldn't read the HTML version of the email. How ? For many readers there is simply no option. [flame on] Newsgroups/Email is traditionally a text only medium. There are many people who are adversely affected by

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-13 Thread Clive . Broome
___ Bob Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/14/2002 07:54:21 AM Please respond to Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Clive Broome/sdc) Subject: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines Here's the problem: 2 identical computers

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-13 Thread Harry Selfridge
Are you absolutely, 100% sure that the two Protel instances are running the exact same PCB files with the exact same design rules? If online DRC is active, there will be a difference in execution time if the rules are different. There will also be a difference in execution time if one file

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-13 Thread Mike Reagan
BOB WROTE On computer 2, I move text for an 0805 and it takes 3 seconds to get mouse back. On computer 1 ,I move same text it takes 8 seconds when I do this for a 28 pin SOP it takes computer 2 - 4 seconds and computer 1 - ready for this - 2 minutes and 12 seconds. Needless to say this is

Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines

2002-02-13 Thread Brian Guralnick
- From: Andrew Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Performance difference between 2 of the same machines | On 04:54 PM 2/13/2002 -0500, Bob Jones wrote: | Here's the problem: | 2 identical computers, Compaq 500