Re: [PEDA] Solder and Paste Masks for Via in Pad BGAs

2002-06-03 Thread Ian Wilson
On 01:12 PM 1/06/2002 -0500, David W. Gulley said: Richard Sumner wrote: David, Talk to your assembler before you invest time in this. The paste mask becomes a metal stencil for applying the solder paste. So donuts will not work (the donut hole is unsupported). Actually my idea was to make

Re: [PEDA] Solder and Paste Masks for Via in Pad BGAs

2002-06-03 Thread David W. Gulley
Ian, For some reason when I originally went to put a pad on the top solder layer, I could not find it! I am not sure what I had done, but my best guess is that I was trying to place a via rather than a pad. Thanks for getting me to recheck this, as I do not like to use the update

Re: [PEDA] Solder and Paste Masks for Via in Pad BGAs

2002-06-03 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:47 AM 3/06/2002 -0500, David W. Gulley said: Ian, For some reason when I originally went to put a pad on the top solder layer (I think you mean Top Solder Mask layer here - for any other reader coming along later that might get confused.) , I could not find it! I am not sure what I

Re: [PEDA] Solder and Paste Masks for Via in Pad BGAs

2002-06-03 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax
At 10:57 AM 6/1/2002 -0500, David W. Gulley wrote: I am doing some via-in-pad BGAs and need to figure out if there is a good way to provide the top solder and top paste masks while keeping the bottom solder mask and bottom paste masks off. I defined the BGA pads as multilayer since I am doing

Re: [PEDA] Solder and Paste Masks for Via in Pad BGAs

2002-06-02 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] Solder and Paste Masks for Via in Pad BGAs

2002-06-02 Thread Dwight Harm
My mistake...sounds like you Steve found the same solution (SMT pad + via), sounds good to me. -Original Message- From: David W. Gulley Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 2:59 PM I do not want a circular block in the center of the pad. snip How would you place a circle on the paste

[PEDA] Solder and Paste Masks for Via in Pad BGAs

2002-06-01 Thread David W. Gulley
I am doing some via-in-pad BGAs and need to figure out if there is a good way to provide the top solder and top paste masks while keeping the bottom solder mask and bottom paste masks off. I defined the BGA pads as multilayer since I am doing via-in-pad (sort of like it was a PGA) except I do

Re: [PEDA] Solder and Paste Masks for Via in Pad BGAs

2002-06-01 Thread Dennis Saputelli
are you sure you don't want the bottom pads untented? a recent customer specifically wanted the bottom via fanouts to be untented for test probing (i realize yours are in pad) your via in pad only goes to the layer below, right? in my understanding this is the only way it can be small enough to

Re: [PEDA] Solder and Paste Masks for Via in Pad BGAs

2002-06-01 Thread David W. Gulley
Richard Sumner wrote: David, Talk to your assembler before you invest time in this. The paste mask becomes a metal stencil for applying the solder paste. So donuts will not work (the donut hole is unsupported). Actually my idea was to make the width of the track greater than 2x the

Re: [PEDA] Solder and Paste Masks for Via in Pad BGAs

2002-06-01 Thread Dennis Saputelli
boy that's some tight stuff, good luck! and keep us posted Dennis Saputelli David W. Gulley wrote: Dennis Saputelli wrote: are you sure you don't want the bottom pads untented? a recent customer specifically wanted the bottom via fanouts to be untented for test probing (i

Re: [PEDA] Solder and Paste Masks for Via in Pad BGAs

2002-06-01 Thread Dwight Harm
If I understand this, it still can't work. The paste-mask stencil has an opening for the pad, and you want a circular block in the center of the pad -- but there's nothing to support it. -Original Message- From: David W. Gulley Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 11:13 AM Richard Sumner

Re: [PEDA] Solder and Paste Masks for Via in Pad BGAs

2002-06-01 Thread David W. Gulley
I do not want a circular block in the center of the pad. For this board using Via in Pad: The board fabrication process drills a through hole through the board and plates the holes (so far just like any other plated hole). Then they plug the hole in the BGA pads using a process that leaves the