Re: [PEDA] spacebar doesn't rotate components anymore

2003-06-03 Thread Leo Potjewijd
At 02/06/2003 10:19, I wrote:
Hi folks,
leave it to Leo to crash into weird stuff: the PCB editor refuses to 
rotate components when I press the spacebar.

snippety-snip

I am convinced I messed something up, but what?
To somewhat answer my own question: I renamed the AdvPCB99SE.INI and 
restarted Protel.
It works again!  Those INI files are magical files!!
I tried looking at the file in detail, but could not find obvious faults. 
Most of it is fairly straightforward though, that enabled me to recover 
some of the settings (colours mostly).
Oh well.

Leo Potjewijd
hardware designer
IE Keyprocessor bv.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+31 20 4620700


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* To leave this list visit:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html
*
* Contact the list manager:
* mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* Forum Guidelines Rules:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html
*
* Browse or Search previous postings:
* http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


Re: [PEDA] spacebar doesn't rotate components anymore

2003-06-03 Thread Leo Potjewijd
At 02/06/2003 11:00, Mattias wrote:

I believe that the component drag setting may influence this behavior too
if I remember correctly. Try to change that setting under preferences.
BINGO. That was the culprit. Thanks!

Leo Potjewijd
hardware designer
IE Keyprocessor bv.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+31 20 4620700


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* To leave this list visit:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html
*
* Contact the list manager:
* mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* Forum Guidelines Rules:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html
*
* Browse or Search previous postings:
* http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


Re: [PEDA] spacebar doesn't rotate components anymore

2003-06-03 Thread ajenkins
They are, and they aren't
They are, because a whole lot of inexplicable problems beyond the standard
plethora of inexplicable problems with Protel EDA can be traced
right back to the often inexplicable and all too common corruption of the
file(s)
They aren't because they are often corrupted and result in inexplicable
problems AND because they don't contain a host of elements which other
programs use to allow the user control over default program behaviors.

aj

- When in doubt, delete the ini files and then, iffn and after the app comes
back, just rebuild your entire customization scheme. Just like magic, with
only five timez the work!

 From: Leo Potjewijd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 At 02/06/2003 10:19, I wrote:
 Hi folks,
 leave it to Leo to crash into weird stuff: the PCB editor refuses to 
 rotate components when I press the spacebar.
 
 snippety-snip
 
 I am convinced I messed something up, but what?
 
 To somewhat answer my own question: I renamed the AdvPCB99SE.INI and 
 restarted Protel.
 It works again!  Those INI files are magical files!!
 I tried looking at the file in detail, but could not find 
 obvious faults. 
 Most of it is fairly straightforward though, that enabled me 
 to recover 
 some of the settings (colours mostly).
 Oh well.
 


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* To leave this list visit:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html
*
* Contact the list manager:
* mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* Forum Guidelines Rules:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html
*
* Browse or Search previous postings:
* http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


[PEDA] spacebar doesn't rotate components anymore

2003-06-02 Thread Leo Potjewijd
Hi folks,
leave it to Leo to crash into weird stuff: the PCB editor refuses to rotate 
components when I press the spacebar.

What happened: last wednesday I was happily working on a complex design and 
all I had to do was annotate (auto-annotate makes a mess of multi-part 
components) and fill the PCB with parts in the proper place. With a long 
weekend ahead and nothing better to do I took de .DDB file home to some 
work on it (stupid thing to do: we have fabulous weather).
Found a few errors, corrected them and issued the update PCB command. 
Shuffled some of the components around, and then it was monday again (told 
ya: fabulous weather)
Took the .DDB file back to work, opened it and tried to pick up where I 
left. I typed M-C and picked up a chip: it moved OK, but wouldn't rotate 
with the spacebar (or any other key for that matter; tried different 
components: no luck).
Opening the LIB, re-update PCB from both LIB and Sch, closing and 
re-opening: nothing I tried so far helps.
However, it IS still possible to manually rotate the part by editing the 
rotation.

I am convinced I messed something up, but what?
Any help is greatly appreciated.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* To leave this list visit:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html
*
* Contact the list manager:
* mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* Forum Guidelines Rules:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html
*
* Browse or Search previous postings:
* http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


Re: [PEDA] spacebar doesn't rotate components anymore

2003-06-02 Thread me





Hi Leo,

There is a setting for how many degrees objects should rotate for every
time you press the space bar. Check if it is correctly defined (like 90
deg) under ToolsPreferencesRotation Step. Setting this to 0 deg would
cause the problem you are seeing.

I believe that the component drag setting may influence this behavior too
if I remember correctly. Try to change that setting under preferences.

Hope it helps.

Best Regards
Mattias Ericson


Mattias Ericson
Omnisys Instruments AB
Gruvgatan 8
SE-421 30  Västra Frölunda, SWEDEN
Phone: +46 31 734 34 08
Fax: +46 31 734 34 29
http://www.omnisys.se


   

  Leo Potjewijd

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   cc: 

  2003-06-02 10:19 Subject:  [PEDA] spacebar doesn't 
rotate components anymore 
  Please respond to

  Protel EDA Forum 

   





Hi folks,
leave it to Leo to crash into weird stuff: the PCB editor refuses to rotate

components when I press the spacebar.

What happened: last wednesday I was happily working on a complex design and

all I had to do was annotate (auto-annotate makes a mess of multi-part
components) and fill the PCB with parts in the proper place. With a long
weekend ahead and nothing better to do I took de .DDB file home to some
work on it (stupid thing to do: we have fabulous weather).
Found a few errors, corrected them and issued the update PCB command.
Shuffled some of the components around, and then it was monday again (told
ya: fabulous weather)
Took the .DDB file back to work, opened it and tried to pick up where I
left. I typed M-C and picked up a chip: it moved OK, but wouldn't rotate
with the spacebar (or any other key for that matter; tried different
components: no luck).
Opening the LIB, re-update PCB from both LIB and Sch, closing and
re-opening: nothing I tried so far helps.
However, it IS still possible to manually rotate the part by editing the
rotation.

I am convinced I messed something up, but what?
Any help is greatly appreciated.



* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* To leave this list visit:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html
*
* Contact the list manager:
* mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* Forum Guidelines Rules:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html
*
* Browse or Search previous postings:
* http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
見-jg¬±¨™¨¥¶Šk¢×¥y֟¢»¦µç!±êïŠw¢dè•æ¯zØb²X¬¶ø¬ŠØm¶ŸÿÃ
-yÈlz»âÇ(›úk¢×¥ºÇ«³ù^j÷¡¶iB¢{ZrÛazX¬¶f§j«™¨¥¶h®é€vh§ŠËkjÚ+Mç!Iêïw¢ah®é†º'^–)Þ±¥zÈm¶ŸÿÃ
-yÈlz»âÇ(›úk¢×¥ºÇ«³÷è®é«ºW¬†Ù¥º0±ê+Iæ«rkzø¨ºÊh²Ø§‚Èm¶ŸÿÃ
j)Z­Èb½ç(›úk¢×¥y֟¢»¦µç!±êïŠw¢

Re: [PEDA] spacebar doesn't rotate components anymore

2003-06-02 Thread Ian Wilson
On 06:19 PM 2/06/2003, Leo Potjewijd said:
Hi folks,
leave it to Leo to crash into weird stuff: the PCB editor refuses to 
rotate components when I press the spacebar.

What happened: last wednesday I was happily working on a complex design 
and all I had to do was annotate (auto-annotate makes a mess of multi-part 
components) and fill the PCB with parts in the proper place. With a long 
weekend ahead and nothing better to do I took de .DDB file home to some 
work on it (stupid thing to do: we have fabulous weather).
Found a few errors, corrected them and issued the update PCB command. 
Shuffled some of the components around, and then it was monday again (told 
ya: fabulous weather)
Took the .DDB file back to work, opened it and tried to pick up where I 
left. I typed M-C and picked up a chip: it moved OK, but wouldn't rotate 
with the spacebar (or any other key for that matter; tried different 
components: no luck).
Opening the LIB, re-update PCB from both LIB and Sch, closing and 
re-opening: nothing I tried so far helps.
However, it IS still possible to manually rotate the part by editing the 
rotation.

I am convinced I messed something up, but what?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Under Tools|Preferences Options Tab check the Rotation Step and the 
Component Drag mode.

A rotation step of 0 will disable rotations.  If you are dragging a 
component then rotations are also disabled.  But you are using M-C so this 
last idea shouldn't be the problem.

Failing that try the trick of deleting the appropriate P99SE ini 
file.  Backup up first.  You could also try, instead of deleting the ini 
file and loosing stuff, editing the ini file and removing the vast list of 
historical files that have been opened - I have had trouble in the past 
when this list became too large.  There is a limit to the acceptable size 
of an ini file under Win98 etc but not sure if this applies to WinNT and 
variants.

Ian Wilson



* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* To leave this list visit:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html
*
* Contact the list manager:
* mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* Forum Guidelines Rules:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html
*
* Browse or Search previous postings:
* http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *