Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor

2001-11-14 Thread Stephen Smith

Also, while on this point, in PCB editor holding down the right hand
mouse button allows you to scroll around the screen, but not in the
Schematic editor, why is this? Is there a way round it?

Steve

When zoomed in on a PCB design, and then selecting an option such as
measure distance, if I move the curser too quickly to the edge of the
screen, protel seems to take ages to catch up with the curser.
This can get very annoying, as if you move the curser in the other
direction to stop the movement, protel takes ages to change direction,
and then starts to move the screen very slowly in the other direction,
but it always goes further than I want.
Its hard to explain, but hopefully you all get the picture!!
Its probably something to do with my mouse set-up, and nothing to do
with protel, but it doesn't do it with any other programs. 
I'm using a Logitech Cordless Track Man Wheel, if it is the mouse ok,
but if not is there any way to adjust the scroll options of Protel?

Steve

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Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor

2001-11-14 Thread Stephen Smith

At the moment I'm using a 3DLabs Oxygen VX1 32Mb Graphics Card, on an
Intel 800Mhz Machine with 132Mb memory.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 17:44
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor


THat is a BONUS FEATURE in PCB. We WISH the SCH tools had the same
thing!!!
About the other slow issue: Get a faster video card or faster CPU or
both.
My system used to be like that, but it screams now in regards to
panning/redrawing left to right. I'm not talking state-of-the-art, I
only
have a Geforce2 card that was $100 or so but it's quite fast on a 900MHz
Athlon.

You people that are running on 400MHz or slower machines are doing
yourselves a disservice. You make a living on a  PC, and the h/w is so
cheap
these days, you'd save yourselves frustration and time by spending a
little
money, which equates to money saved if your time is worth anything. (and
I
know it is!)

Tony




 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:57 AM
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor


 Also, while on this point, in PCB editor holding down the right hand
 mouse button allows you to scroll around the screen, but not in the
 Schematic editor, why is this? Is there a way round it?

 Steve

 When zoomed in on a PCB design, and then selecting an option such as
 measure distance, if I move the curser too quickly to the edge of the
 screen, protel seems to take ages to catch up with the curser.
 This can get very annoying, as if you move the curser in the other
 direction to stop the movement, protel takes ages to change
direction,
 and then starts to move the screen very slowly in the other
direction,
 but it always goes further than I want.
 Its hard to explain, but hopefully you all get the picture!!
 Its probably something to do with my mouse set-up, and nothing to do
 with protel, but it doesn't do it with any other programs.
 I'm using a Logitech Cordless Track Man Wheel, if it is the mouse ok,
 but if not is there any way to adjust the scroll options of Protel?

 Steve


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Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor

2001-11-14 Thread Tony Karavidas

I didn't mean that second part for you specifically; it was just part of my
train of thought to all the people that complain about this or that being
slow: panning, autorouting, saving and loading of files.

So anyway you got my point about the PCB being able to right button pan but
the schematic can't do it. It woud be nice if it could.

Tony



 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:00 AM
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor


 At the moment I'm using a 3DLabs Oxygen VX1 32Mb Graphics Card, on an
 Intel 800Mhz Machine with 132Mb memory.

 Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 14 November 2001 17:44
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor


 THat is a BONUS FEATURE in PCB. We WISH the SCH tools had the same
 thing!!!
 About the other slow issue: Get a faster video card or faster CPU or
 both.
 My system used to be like that, but it screams now in regards to
 panning/redrawing left to right. I'm not talking state-of-the-art, I
 only
 have a Geforce2 card that was $100 or so but it's quite fast on a 900MHz
 Athlon.

 You people that are running on 400MHz or slower machines are doing
 yourselves a disservice. You make a living on a  PC, and the h/w is so
 cheap
 these days, you'd save yourselves frustration and time by spending a
 little
 money, which equates to money saved if your time is worth anything. (and
 I
 know it is!)

 Tony




  -Original Message-
  From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:57 AM
  To: Protel EDA Forum
  Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor
 
 
  Also, while on this point, in PCB editor holding down the right hand
  mouse button allows you to scroll around the screen, but not in the
  Schematic editor, why is this? Is there a way round it?
 
  Steve
 
  When zoomed in on a PCB design, and then selecting an option such as
  measure distance, if I move the curser too quickly to the edge of the
  screen, protel seems to take ages to catch up with the curser.
  This can get very annoying, as if you move the curser in the other
  direction to stop the movement, protel takes ages to change
 direction,
  and then starts to move the screen very slowly in the other
 direction,
  but it always goes further than I want.
  Its hard to explain, but hopefully you all get the picture!!
  Its probably something to do with my mouse set-up, and nothing to do
  with protel, but it doesn't do it with any other programs.
  I'm using a Logitech Cordless Track Man Wheel, if it is the mouse ok,
  but if not is there any way to adjust the scroll options of Protel?
 
  Steve
 


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Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor

2001-11-14 Thread Stephen Smith

OK then, what machine did you used to use, and what are you using now.
That was my thought when I replied, without actually asking.so that
I could do a rough comparison to see if my machine is causing the
problem.

I've sort of got a solution to the schematic pan, but it's not practical
unless you've got the same mouse as me, as I can program the scroll
button so that when pressed, I can pan around the screen.  But it's not
as good, or fast as the PCB method!

Steve 

-Original Message-
From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 November 2001 20:12
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor


I didn't mean that second part for you specifically; it was just part of
my
train of thought to all the people that complain about this or that
being
slow: panning, autorouting, saving and loading of files.

So anyway you got my point about the PCB being able to right button pan
but
the schematic can't do it. It woud be nice if it could.

Tony



 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:00 AM
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor


 At the moment I'm using a 3DLabs Oxygen VX1 32Mb Graphics Card, on an
 Intel 800Mhz Machine with 132Mb memory.

 Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 14 November 2001 17:44
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor


 THat is a BONUS FEATURE in PCB. We WISH the SCH tools had the same
 thing!!!
 About the other slow issue: Get a faster video card or faster CPU or
 both.
 My system used to be like that, but it screams now in regards to
 panning/redrawing left to right. I'm not talking state-of-the-art, I
 only
 have a Geforce2 card that was $100 or so but it's quite fast on a
900MHz
 Athlon.

 You people that are running on 400MHz or slower machines are doing
 yourselves a disservice. You make a living on a  PC, and the h/w is so
 cheap
 these days, you'd save yourselves frustration and time by spending a
 little
 money, which equates to money saved if your time is worth anything.
(and
 I
 know it is!)

 Tony




  -Original Message-
  From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:57 AM
  To: Protel EDA Forum
  Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor
 
 
  Also, while on this point, in PCB editor holding down the right hand
  mouse button allows you to scroll around the screen, but not in the
  Schematic editor, why is this? Is there a way round it?
 
  Steve
 
  When zoomed in on a PCB design, and then selecting an option such
as
  measure distance, if I move the curser too quickly to the edge of
the
  screen, protel seems to take ages to catch up with the curser.
  This can get very annoying, as if you move the curser in the other
  direction to stop the movement, protel takes ages to change
 direction,
  and then starts to move the screen very slowly in the other
 direction,
  but it always goes further than I want.
  Its hard to explain, but hopefully you all get the picture!!
  Its probably something to do with my mouse set-up, and nothing to
do
  with protel, but it doesn't do it with any other programs.
  I'm using a Logitech Cordless Track Man Wheel, if it is the mouse
ok,
  but if not is there any way to adjust the scroll options of Protel?
 
  Steve
 


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Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor

2001-11-14 Thread Tony Karavidas

I think when I started the P99 stuff (I've been a user for way longer than
that, but only the P99 is relevant to this) I was using a Celeron 300 or
possibly a PII-166. I now have an Athlon 900, 768MB RAM, A fast 60GB IBM
drive, and a Geforce2 video card. All this stuff is cheap now and it damn
fast.


Tony


 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:21 PM
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor


 OK then, what machine did you used to use, and what are you using now.
 That was my thought when I replied, without actually asking.so that
 I could do a rough comparison to see if my machine is causing the
 problem.

 I've sort of got a solution to the schematic pan, but it's not practical
 unless you've got the same mouse as me, as I can program the scroll
 button so that when pressed, I can pan around the screen.  But it's not
 as good, or fast as the PCB method!

 Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 14 November 2001 20:12
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor


 I didn't mean that second part for you specifically; it was just part of
 my
 train of thought to all the people that complain about this or that
 being
 slow: panning, autorouting, saving and loading of files.

 So anyway you got my point about the PCB being able to right button pan
 but
 the schematic can't do it. It woud be nice if it could.

 Tony



  -Original Message-
  From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:00 AM
  To: Protel EDA Forum
  Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor
 
 
  At the moment I'm using a 3DLabs Oxygen VX1 32Mb Graphics Card, on an
  Intel 800Mhz Machine with 132Mb memory.
 
  Steve
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 14 November 2001 17:44
  To: Protel EDA Forum
  Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor
 
 
  THat is a BONUS FEATURE in PCB. We WISH the SCH tools had the same
  thing!!!
  About the other slow issue: Get a faster video card or faster CPU or
  both.
  My system used to be like that, but it screams now in regards to
  panning/redrawing left to right. I'm not talking state-of-the-art, I
  only
  have a Geforce2 card that was $100 or so but it's quite fast on a
 900MHz
  Athlon.
 
  You people that are running on 400MHz or slower machines are doing
  yourselves a disservice. You make a living on a  PC, and the h/w is so
  cheap
  these days, you'd save yourselves frustration and time by spending a
  little
  money, which equates to money saved if your time is worth anything.
 (and
  I
  know it is!)
 
  Tony
 
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:57 AM
   To: Protel EDA Forum
   Subject: Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor
  
  
   Also, while on this point, in PCB editor holding down the right hand
   mouse button allows you to scroll around the screen, but not in the
   Schematic editor, why is this? Is there a way round it?
  
   Steve
  
   When zoomed in on a PCB design, and then selecting an option such
 as
   measure distance, if I move the curser too quickly to the edge of
 the
   screen, protel seems to take ages to catch up with the curser.
   This can get very annoying, as if you move the curser in the other
   direction to stop the movement, protel takes ages to change
  direction,
   and then starts to move the screen very slowly in the other
  direction,
   but it always goes further than I want.
   Its hard to explain, but hopefully you all get the picture!!
   Its probably something to do with my mouse set-up, and nothing to
 do
   with protel, but it doesn't do it with any other programs.
   I'm using a Logitech Cordless Track Man Wheel, if it is the mouse
 ok,
   but if not is there any way to adjust the scroll options of Protel?
  
   Steve
  
 


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Re: [PEDA] Annoying movement behaviour in PCB Editor

2001-11-14 Thread Dwight

I didn't see this mentioned yet... in Tools | Preferences | Options, there
are 'autopan options', one of which is speed; you could try adjusting that,
or the 'style'  see if it helps.

 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:52 AM

 When zoomed in on a PCB design, and then selecting an option such as
 measure distance, if I move the curser too quickly to the edge of the
 screen, protel seems to take ages to catch up with the curser.
snip

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