Re: [PEDA] Anybody plagued by Protel executable corruptions recen tly? FIXED!
Dennis Matt, these were the schematic configuration files found within the DDB. The fix, delete the existing file and let a new one be generated when you next annotate or generate a BOM. This problem was mimicking the problem that I had a couple of weeks ago when it seems some *.bpl files were corrupted. Once the problem was identified as being the filename.cfg file it became clear that these files were storing the set-up information for annotate and BOM generation. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:55 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Anybody plagued by Protel executable corruptions recen tly? FIXED! hi matt, yes i recall you writing about this before since brad mentioned a .cfg file ... what i think brad was referring to and what i was thinking about were not those global files but rather the little files that hold things like your last BOM option choices which are specific to the files you are working upon and which are held within the DDB brad, are those the files you are talking about?, or is it the Client99SE.cfg which matt describes? god, i hope that DXP is not a pc of crap and that it resolves rather than propagates this sort of stuff Dennis Saputelli * Tracking #: 687C1D4791570449943755CB604A5B8931542268 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Anybody plagued by Protel executable corruptions recen tly? FIXED!
Dennis or the others with suggestions, solved the problem, it wasn't a corrupted install as I expected from my previous problems a week or so ago. It was a corrupt .cfg file. And of course the .cfg file contains the configuration information for annotate and BOMs. In all fairness to Protel NA Tech support, I actually got directly to a person this afternoon not once but twice. Possibly things are improving at the Tech Support end, we will have to see. Anyway, Lori came up with the fix in short order. Thanks Lori! Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 1:13 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Anybody plagued by Protel executable corruptions recen tly? Dennis, you are exactly correct, the annotate facility crashes immediately upon clicking annotate. The message points to the VCL50.bpl file. I hadn't bothered checking the other functions that were acting up last time, just assumed they could be gone as well. I had reinstalled about a week ago and it worked fine after getting their modified clean install from Protel. However this morning it is back and even after doing the clean install it is still there so I have to try a few other things right now. After I get it running I am going to note all the pertinent details about these *.bpl files and save a clean copy somewhere safe as Jon suggested. That was already on my to do list. Jon, if you are reading this, they write back to the BPL files? I thought these were just library files similar to DLLs? Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com * Tracking #: C1EADFB33781574B82C176ADD0934614F8BBB803 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Anybody plagued by Protel executable corruptions recen tly? FIXED!
that's great i think tech support people in general (not just at protel) are all too ready to have us all constantly re-installing things when the problem is usually a file here or a tweak there but still, how exactly did the cfg file become 'corrupt' and corrupt in what manner? this is stored in the DDB, right? i've noticed it seems to make the BOM settings stick, but didn't know it had to do with annotate i assume you can uncorrupt it by simply deleting it as a new one will be created, right? i bet there is something peculiar about your schematics Dennis Saputelli Brad Velander wrote: Dennis or the others with suggestions, solved the problem, it wasn't a corrupted install as I expected from my previous problems a week or so ago. It was a corrupt .cfg file. And of course the .cfg file contains the configuration information for annotate and BOMs. In all fairness to Protel NA Tech support, I actually got directly to a person this afternoon not once but twice. Possibly things are improving at the Tech Support end, we will have to see. Anyway, Lori came up with the fix in short order. Thanks Lori! Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 1:13 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Anybody plagued by Protel executable corruptions recen tly? Dennis, you are exactly correct, the annotate facility crashes immediately upon clicking annotate. The message points to the VCL50.bpl file. I hadn't bothered checking the other functions that were acting up last time, just assumed they could be gone as well. I had reinstalled about a week ago and it worked fine after getting their modified clean install from Protel. However this morning it is back and even after doing the clean install it is still there so I have to try a few other things right now. After I get it running I am going to note all the pertinent details about these *.bpl files and save a clean copy somewhere safe as Jon suggested. That was already on my to do list. Jon, if you are reading this, they write back to the BPL files? I thought these were just library files similar to DLLs? Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com * Tracking #: 68A480BF771938408478CBB2356AC57F52444C2C * -- ___ www.integratedcontrolsinc.comIntegrated Controls, Inc. tel: 415-647-04802851 21st Street fax: 415-647-3003San Francisco, CA 94110 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Anybody plagued by Protel executable corruptions recen tly? FIXED!
Brad, What was the fix? I get corrupt .cfg files all the time if I exit Protel with any ddb's open. Maybe there's some correlation? If I close all the ddb's before I exit Protel, it never corrupts the .cfg files. (and yes, I keep a clean copy of all my .cfg files tucked away so I don't have to reset all my defaults by hand. Uggh.) Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:29:35 -0700, Brad Velander wrote: Dennis or the others with suggestions, solved the problem, it wasn't a corrupted install as I expected from my previous problems a week or so ago. It was a corrupt .cfg file. And of course the .cfg file contains the configuration information for annotate and BOMs. In all fairness to Protel NA Tech support, I actually got directly to a person this afternoon not once but twice. Possibly things are improving at the Tech Support end, we will have to see. Anyway, Lori came up with the fix in short order. Thanks Lori! * Tracking #: 12C198ED5AD7284D8E2F0C1BC6875388DB416F47 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Anybody plagued by Protel executable corruptions recen tly? FIXED!
where exactly are these cfg files you refer to ? inside your DDB with the file name of the schematic? Dennis Saputelli Matt Pobursky wrote: Brad, What was the fix? I get corrupt .cfg files all the time if I exit Protel with any ddb's open. Maybe there's some correlation? If I close all the ddb's before I exit Protel, it never corrupts the .cfg files. (and yes, I keep a clean copy of all my .cfg files tucked away so I don't have to reset all my defaults by hand. Uggh.) Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:29:35 -0700, Brad Velander wrote: Dennis or the others with suggestions, solved the problem, it wasn't a corrupted install as I expected from my previous problems a week or so ago. It was a corrupt .cfg file. And of course the .cfg file contains the configuration information for annotate and BOMs. In all fairness to Protel NA Tech support, I actually got directly to a person this afternoon not once but twice. Possibly things are improving at the Tech Support end, we will have to see. Anyway, Lori came up with the fix in short order. Thanks Lori! * Tracking #: 8DCB16F2C9EE4547A317F1D46A9E3C38A9F0D856 * -- ___ www.integratedcontrolsinc.comIntegrated Controls, Inc. tel: 415-647-04802851 21st Street fax: 415-647-3003San Francisco, CA 94110 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Anybody plagued by Protel executable corruptions recen tly? FIXED!
In my c:\WINNT directory (where Protel put them ;)) Actually there's only one .cfg file -- Client99SE.cfg -- I actually meant all the config files in general. Based on the time stamps, it looks like Protel writes a new Client99SE.rcs, Client99SE.raf, Client99SE.ndr, Client99SE.ini and Client99SE.cfg file on exit. It also appears to write the .ini and .dft of any servers you have open on exit also (in my case AdvSch99SE). What I see when Protel bombs is that the Client99SE.ini or .cfg (or both) files get trashed. Protel pops up an Exception Error message and when you look at the .ini file, it's truncated. It sometimes also trashes one of the other server .ini files. It's strange and repeatable on several different systems, mine and my PCB designer's (at a different location). It occurs with Win2K SP2 (which we both run) or Win98SE. It always crashes when the status message about writing the configuration file is in the status bar as Protel is shutting down. The crazy thing is if I close all the ddb files before I exit, it NEVER crashes. I also don't get any crashes with the same ddb's doing everyday schematic or PCB work on them. Very strange. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:52:21 -0700, Dennis Saputelli wrote: where exactly are these cfg files you refer to ? inside your DDB with the file name of the schematic? Dennis Saputelli Matt Pobursky wrote: Brad, What was the fix? I get corrupt .cfg files all the time if I exit Protel with any ddb's open. Maybe there's some correlation? If I close all the ddb's before I exit Protel, it never corrupts the .cfg files. (and yes, I keep a clean copy of all my .cfg files tucked away so I don't have to reset all my defaults by hand. Uggh.) Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:29:35 -0700, Brad Velander wrote: Dennis or the others with suggestions, solved the problem, it wasn't a corrupted install as I expected from my previous problems a week or so ago. It was a corrupt .cfg file. And of course the .cfg file contains the configuration information for annotate and BOMs. In all fairness to Protel NA Tech support, I actually got directly to a person this afternoon not once but twice. Possibly things are improving at the Tech Support end, we will have to see. Anyway, Lori came up with the fix in short order. Thanks Lori! * Tracking #: 2E532EEDAC20D840AFF623600A5133EC2303FA31 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Anybody plagued by Protel executable corruptions recen tly? FIXED!
hi matt, yes i recall you writing about this before since brad mentioned a .cfg file ... what i think brad was referring to and what i was thinking about were not those global files but rather the little files that hold things like your last BOM option choices which are specific to the files you are working upon and which are held within the DDB brad, are those the files you are talking about?, or is it the Client99SE.cfg which matt describes? god, i hope that DXP is not a pc of crap and that it resolves rather than propagates this sort of stuff Dennis Saputelli Matt Pobursky wrote: In my c:\WINNT directory (where Protel put them ;)) Actually there's only one .cfg file -- Client99SE.cfg -- I actually meant all the config files in general. Based on the time stamps, it looks like Protel writes a new Client99SE.rcs, Client99SE.raf, Client99SE.ndr, Client99SE.ini and Client99SE.cfg file on exit. It also appears to write the .ini and .dft of any servers you have open on exit also (in my case AdvSch99SE). What I see when Protel bombs is that the Client99SE.ini or .cfg (or both) files get trashed. Protel pops up an Exception Error message and when you look at the .ini file, it's truncated. It sometimes also trashes one of the other server .ini files. It's strange and repeatable on several different systems, mine and my PCB designer's (at a different location). It occurs with Win2K SP2 (which we both run) or Win98SE. It always crashes when the status message about writing the configuration file is in the status bar as Protel is shutting down. The crazy thing is if I close all the ddb files before I exit, it NEVER crashes. I also don't get any crashes with the same ddb's doing everyday schematic or PCB work on them. Very strange. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:52:21 -0700, Dennis Saputelli wrote: where exactly are these cfg files you refer to ? inside your DDB with the file name of the schematic? Dennis Saputelli Matt Pobursky wrote: Brad, What was the fix? I get corrupt .cfg files all the time if I exit Protel with any ddb's open. Maybe there's some correlation? If I close all the ddb's before I exit Protel, it never corrupts the .cfg files. (and yes, I keep a clean copy of all my .cfg files tucked away so I don't have to reset all my defaults by hand. Uggh.) Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:29:35 -0700, Brad Velander wrote: Dennis or the others with suggestions, solved the problem, it wasn't a corrupted install as I expected from my previous problems a week or so ago. It was a corrupt .cfg file. And of course the .cfg file contains the configuration information for annotate and BOMs. In all fairness to Protel NA Tech support, I actually got directly to a person this afternoon not once but twice. Possibly things are improving at the Tech Support end, we will have to see. Anyway, Lori came up with the fix in short order. Thanks Lori! * Tracking #: 33C447DEDB42E444B754B73D0BDD9B8B810988EC * -- ___ www.integratedcontrolsinc.comIntegrated Controls, Inc. tel: 415-647-04802851 21st Street fax: 415-647-3003San Francisco, CA 94110 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
