Re: [PEDA] Library management in a multi-user environment - is this broken?

2003-09-03 Thread Brad Velander 
Bill,
looks like you are wanting a system identical to that which I manage. I don't 
have any problems like you describe so the problem must be in the details (or network).
I manage the library. I keep my master copy in my personal network drive area. 
When I revise the library I revise my master copy. Then I copy this master to a freely 
accessible network drive area where all people using Protel obtain their libraries. 
When copied to that area I set the library file(s) to Read-Only via the O/S 
attributes. I believe that MIS has also set me up as the only person having write 
privileges to that particular networked directory but don't hold me to that.
If you have tried the same process and it doesn't work for you. I wouldn't 
have a clue what would be messing it up for you. If you are trying to use the Protel 
read/write privileges over DDBs, then I have heard 'rumours' (never tested it myself) 
that their DDB read/write control just doesn't work reliably or properly, typical.

Sincerely,
Brad Velander.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:11 AM
 To: 'Protel EDA Forum'; 'DXP Technical Forum'
 Subject: [PEDA] Library management in a multi-user 
 environment - is this
 broken?
 
 
 I need to hear other's experiences with library management in 
 Protel 99SE
 SP6. (I assume that DXP is similar)  We have many users in 
 our company and
 access to the library seems to only work for users that have 
 'write' access
 to the library file and folder. If they are restricted to 
 'read only' access
 the program doesn't recognize the file. The work around, at 
 the moment, is
 to copy the library out of the 'read only' directory on our 
 server and place
 the copy locally where the user has 'write' access. The 
 software seems to
 like that scenario fine. But then we have multiple copies of 
 the library in
 different stages of completion floating around the company on 
 different
 computers. The temptation to use 'non-standard' symbols or 
 footprints is
 potentially hazardous... We want to control the accuracy of 
 the library and
 want to have one responsible designer manage the library for 
 consistency
 sake and to reduce errors.
 
 Does anyone have a library system or configuration that works and that
 allows other users access to a single library that gets 
 updated only by the
 component librarian with write privileges while the others 
 who use it have
 read privileges? If so, how did you make it work and how did 
 you get around
 these access right issues?
 
 
 Bill Brooks


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Re: [PEDA] Library management in a multi-user environment - is this broken?

2003-09-03 Thread Igor Gmitrovic 
Bill,

we have implemented a Protel library system similar to what you describe. It makes use 
of Protel .ddb file access control. In  Design Team folder in library .ddb you will 
find another foolder, called Members. There you set up names and passwords for all 
people with access to the library. You will have to create a list of all users here by 
adding new users. After doing that go to Permissions folder and set up access rights 
for [All users] and individual users. You can set up global access rights and access 
rights to individual files. Access rights to individual files overwrite the global 
access rights. You will have to create new permissions here. Master library can be set 
with a global access right such as [R] for read only. Information on details of 
setting this up can be found in the P99SE manual.

We have been using this system for a couple of years and never had any problems.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Igor

-Original Message-
From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2003 2:11 AM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'; 'DXP Technical Forum'
Subject: [PEDA] Library management in a multi-user environment - is this
broken?


I need to hear other's experiences with library management in Protel 99SE
SP6. (I assume that DXP is similar)  We have many users in our company and
access to the library seems to only work for users that have 'write' access
to the library file and folder. If they are restricted to 'read only' access
the program doesn't recognize the file. The work around, at the moment, is
to copy the library out of the 'read only' directory on our server and place
the copy locally where the user has 'write' access. The software seems to
like that scenario fine. But then we have multiple copies of the library in
different stages of completion floating around the company on different
computers. The temptation to use 'non-standard' symbols or footprints is
potentially hazardous... We want to control the accuracy of the library and
want to have one responsible designer manage the library for consistency
sake and to reduce errors.

Does anyone have a library system or configuration that works and that
allows other users access to a single library that gets updated only by the
component librarian with write privileges while the others who use it have
read privileges? If so, how did you make it work and how did you get around
these access right issues?


Bill Brooks




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