Re: [PEDA] OT: audio WAS parallel

2003-10-29 Thread Brian Guralnick
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Re: [PEDA] OT: audio WAS parallel

2003-10-29 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I'm sure no use of the autorouter was made with these boards, eh?  ;-)

30-bit video ADC?  I assume that's 10 bits each for R, G, and B ?

Best regards,
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Re: [PEDA] OT: audio WAS parallel

2003-10-29 Thread Brian Guralnick
 I'm sure no use of the autorouter was made with these boards, eh?  ;-)

Correct.

 30-bit video ADC?  I assume that's 10 bits each for R, G, and B ?


Well, it's 12 bit Y, 12 bit Cr, 12 bit Cb component, or 12 bit Y, 12 bit C,
or, 12 bit CVBS oversampled by 2x, down sampled to 30 bit component.

Only the 24 bit converter can handle RGB.  Remember, 24 bit RGB means 16
million valid colors.  24 bit component (YUV) means only 3 million valid
colors, that's why head end broadcast quality use 30 bit color component,
which gives them around 170 million valid colors.

Again, that's why my DAC board has 33 bit RGB / YUV DACs on it.

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 I'm sure no use of the autorouter was made with these boards, eh?  ;-)

 30-bit video ADC?  I assume that's 10 bits each for R, G, and B ?

 Best regards,
 Ivan Baggett
 Bagotronix Inc.
 website:  www.bagotronix.com


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Re: [PEDA] OT: audio WAS parallel

2003-10-29 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
 Only the 24 bit converter can handle RGB.  Remember, 24 bit RGB means 16
 million valid colors.  24 bit component (YUV) means only 3 million valid
 colors, that's why head end broadcast quality use 30 bit color component,
 which gives them around 170 million valid colors.

Head end?  What does that make my TV?  The ass end?  Seems like it, given
the poor quality of TV programming these days...

Did you mean high end?

I have yet to join the HDTV revolution.  Still using my circa 1989 Hitachi
27 inch color TV.  And it still looks good.  It's got S-video and composite
inputs, no YUV or RGB or YBaCuO whatever.  I don't really care if broadcast
HDTV ever gets off the ground, because broadcast TV programming is so
uninteresting to me.  Cable HDTV sounds like a joke to me.  Digital cable
(SDTV) is available in my town, but everyone I know of that has tried it has
gone back to analog cable.  The reasons:  digital cable costs more, the
extra channels aren't that great, and you need one cable box for every VCR
and TV in the house.  Now, if the cable company wants to move to HDTV cable
and keep the price the same or lower, I'll go along with that.  But I'm not
looking for a way to spend more money on TV.  Sure, the analog cable signal
quality is abysmal sometimes, but I just won't pay more than I already do.
So, the cable company can forget it if they think HDTV is a way to get me to
spend more money on them.  HDTV would be good for playing back DVDs I buy or
rent, but until my current TV set dies, I won't be buying a new one.  And of
course, the prospect of DRM looms over HDTV.  I almost never watch a show
when it's on, I tape it and watch it later and skip over the commercials.
I'll bet a lot of HDTV programming will be unrecordable because of that.
That's not TV on my terms, folks, so it's not going to fly with me.

Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:  www.bagotronix.com


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Re: [PEDA] OT: audio WAS parallel

2003-10-29 Thread Brian Guralnick
 I'll bet a lot of HDTV programming will be unrecordable because of that.

Too late, HDTV is already recordable on the RCA-DSS dishs which have the
HD-PDR on it, or, just use one of my minimal setups, it'll record
HDTV,NTSC, PC RGB up to 1940x1440.

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  Only the 24 bit converter can handle RGB.  Remember, 24 bit RGB means 16
  million valid colors.  24 bit component (YUV) means only 3 million valid
  colors, that's why head end broadcast quality use 30 bit color
component,
  which gives them around 170 million valid colors.

 Head end?  What does that make my TV?  The ass end?  Seems like it, given
 the poor quality of TV programming these days...

 Did you mean high end?

 I have yet to join the HDTV revolution.  Still using my circa 1989 Hitachi
 27 inch color TV.  And it still looks good.  It's got S-video and
composite
 inputs, no YUV or RGB or YBaCuO whatever.  I don't really care if
broadcast
 HDTV ever gets off the ground, because broadcast TV programming is so
 uninteresting to me.  Cable HDTV sounds like a joke to me.  Digital cable
 (SDTV) is available in my town, but everyone I know of that has tried it
has
 gone back to analog cable.  The reasons:  digital cable costs more, the
 extra channels aren't that great, and you need one cable box for every VCR
 and TV in the house.  Now, if the cable company wants to move to HDTV
cable
 and keep the price the same or lower, I'll go along with that.  But I'm
not
 looking for a way to spend more money on TV.  Sure, the analog cable
signal
 quality is abysmal sometimes, but I just won't pay more than I already do.
 So, the cable company can forget it if they think HDTV is a way to get me
to
 spend more money on them.  HDTV would be good for playing back DVDs I buy
or
 rent, but until my current TV set dies, I won't be buying a new one.  And
of
 course, the prospect of DRM looms over HDTV.  I almost never watch a show
 when it's on, I tape it and watch it later and skip over the commercials.
 I'll bet a lot of HDTV programming will be unrecordable because of that.
 That's not TV on my terms, folks, so it's not going to fly with me.

 Best regards,
 Ivan Baggett
 Bagotronix Inc.
 website:  www.bagotronix.com


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