Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size
Yes that makes sense, but he said the bottom of the parent EDA window with scroll bars and the parent window doesn't have scroll bars unless it's as you just described. His photos are a little hard to see. I can't tell if the main window is already 'maximized' and is somehow shooting off the bottom of screen, or if it's in a windowed state and is just dragged too low at the bottom. It looks like in the second images the internal window was maximized and it also shot off the bottom. John, is the main client window maximized already or can you adjust the size of it by resizing the boarder? tOny -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:33 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size On 01:49 PM 9/06/2004, Tony Karavidas said: Scroll bars where? If I have 99SE open with no project files, then no scroll bars exist. They only appear when I open a file which requires panning. You can get scroll bars on the P99SE main window if you have an editor client window that is not maximised but is position so that part of it is out of the visible area of the application. Does that make sense? Is this what you are having a problem with, John. Can you put a screen shot on a web page for us to see? If you need somehere to put it try: http://www.proteluser.com You can stick attachments there. A good spot might be: http://www.proteluser.com/bbs/forumdisplay.php?f=19 Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size
The main window is indeed maximized. You can do this experiment yourself. Whatever resolution you are using, just right click on the desktop, select properties and set a lower resolution screen size. It's a bug in Protel that sets up the size when it's installed and then no longer considers in after running. Nor is there an option to convince it to look again. I've tried deleting Client99SE.ini and although it appears to create the correct desktop, all the servers and their serial/ID numbers are missing so it can't load a file. I'll try adjusting some other parameters. John Wireless CAN with the CANRF module now available. http://www.autoartisans.com/products Automation Artisans Inc. Ph. 1 250 544 4950 -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:20 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size Yes that makes sense, but he said the bottom of the parent EDA window with scroll bars and the parent window doesn't have scroll bars unless it's as you just described. His photos are a little hard to see. I can't tell if the main window is already 'maximized' and is somehow shooting off the bottom of screen, or if it's in a windowed state and is just dragged too low at the bottom. It looks like in the second images the internal window was maximized and it also shot off the bottom. John, is the main client window maximized already or can you adjust the size of it by resizing the boarder? tOny -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:33 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size On 01:49 PM 9/06/2004, Tony Karavidas said: Scroll bars where? If I have 99SE open with no project files, then no scroll bars exist. They only appear when I open a file which requires panning. You can get scroll bars on the P99SE main window if you have an editor client window that is not maximised but is position so that part of it is out of the visible area of the application. Does that make sense? Is this what you are having a problem with, John. Can you put a screen shot on a web page for us to see? If you need somehere to put it try: http://www.proteluser.com You can stick attachments there. A good spot might be: http://www.proteluser.com/bbs/forumdisplay.php?f=19 Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size
I tried it on my notebook with a native resolution of 1024x768. I had 99SE running and I minimized it so I could see the desktop. I lowered the resolution to 800x600, and then maximized 99SE; it looked fine. The odd part is that I made 99SE roughly 90% of the screen (so I could gain access to the desktop and resize up again while watching 99SE, and got this Client99se error dialog box: Win32 Error. Code 1447 The window does not have scroll bars. So I restarted 99se, and tried it again, but this time the application was not maximized, it was 90% of the screen as I reduced to 800x600. The client shell occupied 99.9% of the available screen resolution and still had the maximize button available. It looked ok. I did this over and over and couldn't get the above error, but after about 5 or 6 times, I got a new error: In the Client99se error dialog box: A Win32 API function failed. So I didn't get the same issue you did, but there is something wrong in the area. Why did I do this? Heck, I don't know. I'm just up reading emails in the morning here, and decided to goof off I guess. These is no fixing any 99se things anymore so I suppose it was a complete waste of time... I still stand by my first message thought. The app doesn't have specific control based on screen resolution. It does 'rememeber' its windowed size in the INI file so it will open as it was when you closed it (as Ian mentioned). Oh well, Tony -Original Message- From: John Dammeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:01 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size The main window is indeed maximized. You can do this experiment yourself. Whatever resolution you are using, just right click on the desktop, select properties and set a lower resolution screen size. It's a bug in Protel that sets up the size when it's installed and then no longer considers in after running. Nor is there an option to convince it to look again. I've tried deleting Client99SE.ini and although it appears to create the correct desktop, all the servers and their serial/ID numbers are missing so it can't load a file. I'll try adjusting some other parameters. John Wireless CAN with the CANRF module now available. http://www.autoartisans.com/products Automation Artisans Inc. Ph. 1 250 544 4950 -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:20 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size Yes that makes sense, but he said the bottom of the parent EDA window with scroll bars and the parent window doesn't have scroll bars unless it's as you just described. His photos are a little hard to see. I can't tell if the main window is already 'maximized' and is somehow shooting off the bottom of screen, or if it's in a windowed state and is just dragged too low at the bottom. It looks like in the second images the internal window was maximized and it also shot off the bottom. John, is the main client window maximized already or can you adjust the size of it by resizing the boarder? tOny -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:33 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size On 01:49 PM 9/06/2004, Tony Karavidas said: Scroll bars where? If I have 99SE open with no project files, then no scroll bars exist. They only appear when I open a file which requires panning. You can get scroll bars on the P99SE main window if you have an editor client window that is not maximised but is position so that part of it is out of the visible area of the application. Does that make sense? Is this what you are having a problem with, John. Can you put a screen shot on a web page for us to see? If you need somehere to put it try: http://www.proteluser.com You can stick attachments there. A good spot might be: http://www.proteluser.com/bbs/forumdisplay.php?f=19 Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size
Hi Tony, Don't know if you've read my solution email yet. The way to break it is to put one of the floating tool bars outside the new window dimensions. That breaks it and it's repeatable. Editing the .rcs file solves the problem. I now have a working (if you can call 99SE as a completely working) system. Thanks for your input. John -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 8:57 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size I tried it on my notebook with a native resolution of 1024x768. I had 99SE running and I minimized it so I could see the desktop. I lowered the resolution to 800x600, and then maximized 99SE; it looked fine. The odd part is that I made 99SE roughly 90% of the screen (so I could gain access to the desktop and resize up again while watching 99SE, and got this Client99se error dialog box: Win32 Error. Code 1447 The window does not have scroll bars. So I restarted 99se, and tried it again, but this time the application was not maximized, it was 90% of the screen as I reduced to 800x600. The client shell occupied 99.9% of the available screen resolution and still had the maximize button available. It looked ok. I did this over and over and couldn't get the above error, but after about 5 or 6 times, I got a new error: In the Client99se error dialog box: A Win32 API function failed. So I didn't get the same issue you did, but there is something wrong in the area. Why did I do this? Heck, I don't know. I'm just up reading emails in the morning here, and decided to goof off I guess. These is no fixing any 99se things anymore so I suppose it was a complete waste of time... I still stand by my first message thought. The app doesn't have specific control based on screen resolution. It does 'rememeber' its windowed size in the INI file so it will open as it was when you closed it (as Ian mentioned). Oh well, Tony * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size
From these screen captures, this seems to be what is happening. There are two windows shown, the design explorer parent, and the schematic/ddb child. Each has its own three buttons for minimize, maximize/restore, and close. In SCRN2, both are maximized, in SCRN1 the parent is maximized, but the child is not. In order to make SCRN1 look like SCRN2, click the maximize (middle) button in the child window. Or, to make SCRN2 look like SCRN1, click the restore (middle) button of the child window. -Original Message- From: John Dammeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:12 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size Hi Ian and Tony, http://www.autoartisans.com/protel/scrn1.jpg http://www.autoartisans.com/protel/scrn2.jpg Here's the two shots I've compressed the JPGs down to 800x600 which screws up the drawings a bit but shows the problem. Notice that the bottom scroll bar goes missing and even the bottom arrow of the RH scroll bar also vanishes. I'll check the .ini files out. Thanks for your input. John Wireless CAN with the CANRF module now available. http://www.autoartisans.com/products Automation Artisans Inc. Ph. 1 250 544 4950 -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:33 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size On 01:49 PM 9/06/2004, Tony Karavidas said: Scroll bars where? If I have 99SE open with no project files, then no scroll bars exist. They only appear when I open a file which requires panning. You can get scroll bars on the P99SE main window if you have an editor client window that is not maximised but is position so that part of it is out of the visible area of the application. Does that make sense? Is this what you are having a problem with, John. Can you put a screen shot on a web page for us to see? If you need somehere to put it try: http://www.proteluser.com You can stick attachments there. A good spot might be: http://www.proteluser.com/bbs/forumdisplay.php?f=19 Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size
Hi all, Just to reiterate, the problem is solved after editing the .rcs file and wasn't solvable with clicking buttons. See the scrn-ok.jpg for what it was supposed to look like (the after picture) as opposed to scrn2.jpg (the before picture). http://www.autoartisans.com/protel/scrn-ok.jpg John Wireless CAN with the CANRF module now available. http://www.autoartisans.com/products Automation Artisans Inc. Ph. 1 250 544 4950 -Original Message- From: Bruce Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:20 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size From these screen captures, this seems to be what is happening. There are two windows shown, the design explorer parent, and the schematic/ddb child. Each has its own three buttons for minimize, maximize/restore, and close. In SCRN2, both are maximized, in SCRN1 the parent is maximized, but the child is not. In order to make SCRN1 look like SCRN2, click the maximize (middle) button in the child window. Or, to make SCRN2 look like SCRN1, click the restore (middle) button of the child window. -Original Message- From: John Dammeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:12 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size Hi Ian and Tony, http://www.autoartisans.com/protel/scrn1.jpg http://www.autoartisans.com/protel/scrn2.jpg Here's the two shots I've compressed the JPGs down to 800x600 which screws up the drawings a bit but shows the problem. Notice that the bottom scroll bar goes missing and even the bottom arrow of the RH scroll bar also vanishes. I'll check the .ini files out. Thanks for your input. John Wireless CAN with the CANRF module now available. http://www.autoartisans.com/products Automation Artisans Inc. Ph. 1 250 544 4950 -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:33 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size On 01:49 PM 9/06/2004, Tony Karavidas said: Scroll bars where? If I have 99SE open with no project files, then no scroll bars exist. They only appear when I open a file which requires panning. You can get scroll bars on the P99SE main window if you have an editor client window that is not maximised but is position so that part of it is out of the visible area of the application. Does that make sense? Is this what you are having a problem with, John. Can you put a screen shot on a web page for us to see? If you need somehere to put it try: http://www.proteluser.com You can stick attachments there. A good spot might be: http://www.proteluser.com/bbs/forumdisplay.php?f=19 Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size
No, I hadn't seen a solution email when this email arrived. I couldn't find any previous mention from you about putting floating toolbars in an area down low that would have been obscured when resizing to a smaller area. From your previous text and pictures, I could not reproduce it as stated. I think it's a benign issue considering almost no one resizes to a smaller screen and it's on a 5 year old product. But in case someone else does happen to do the same thing, at least there is a solution in the archive. Tony -Original Message- From: John Dammeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:59 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size Hi Tony, Don't know if you've read my solution email yet. The way to break it is to put one of the floating tool bars outside the new window dimensions. That breaks it and it's repeatable. Editing the .rcs file solves the problem. I now have a working (if you can call 99SE as a completely working) system. Thanks for your input. John -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 8:57 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size I tried it on my notebook with a native resolution of 1024x768. I had 99SE running and I minimized it so I could see the desktop. I lowered the resolution to 800x600, and then maximized 99SE; it looked fine. The odd part is that I made 99SE roughly 90% of the screen (so I could gain access to the desktop and resize up again while watching 99SE, and got this Client99se error dialog box: Win32 Error. Code 1447 The window does not have scroll bars. So I restarted 99se, and tried it again, but this time the application was not maximized, it was 90% of the screen as I reduced to 800x600. The client shell occupied 99.9% of the available screen resolution and still had the maximize button available. It looked ok. I did this over and over and couldn't get the above error, but after about 5 or 6 times, I got a new error: In the Client99se error dialog box: A Win32 API function failed. So I didn't get the same issue you did, but there is something wrong in the area. Why did I do this? Heck, I don't know. I'm just up reading emails in the morning here, and decided to goof off I guess. These is no fixing any 99se things anymore so I suppose it was a complete waste of time... I still stand by my first message thought. The app doesn't have specific control based on screen resolution. It does 'rememeber' its windowed size in the INI file so it will open as it was when you closed it (as Ian mentioned). Oh well, Tony * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size
Sorry, that's just not true. If I install the Protel on a system with a 1024x768 screen the bottom of the parent EDA window with scroll bars is clearly visible. If I install it into a system that has 1280x1024 screen same thing. If I now reduce the system resolution to 1024x768 from the 1280x768, the bottom of the parent vanishes. You can shrink it and do whatever but you can't get the bottom of the window into sight. It can't be stretched out. That means somewhere, Protel is hiding the installation screen dimensions. In a .ini file or some place in the registry. And, it's the only windows program I have ever run that has this problem. John You don't set the application to work with various screen resolutions. You work in the space dictated by the OS. If you set to 1024x768, you'll just have to suffer. -Original Message- From: John Dammeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size Hi, I had a 19 monitor die the other day and had to substitute a monitor that wasn't capable of displaying the same resolution so now for a while I'm stuck with 1024x768. Short of re-installing Protel 99SE how do I configure it so it can work within the smaller screen? I have searched the registry but can't find anything that relates to size. Thanks, John Dammeyer Wireless CAN with the CANRF module now available. http://www.autoartisans.com/products Automation Artisans Inc. Ph. 1 250 544 4950 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size
On 01:04 PM 9/06/2004, John Dammeyer said: Sorry, that's just not true. If I install the Protel on a system with a 1024x768 screen the bottom of the parent EDA window with scroll bars is clearly visible. If I install it into a system that has 1280x1024 screen same thing. If I now reduce the system resolution to 1024x768 from the 1280x768, the bottom of the parent vanishes. You can shrink it and do whatever but you can't get the bottom of the window into sight. It can't be stretched out. That means somewhere, Protel is hiding the installation screen dimensions. In a .ini file or some place in the registry. And, it's the only windows program I have ever run that has this problem. It is actually storing the size of some of its internal windows, more than the screen resolution - but works out the same from your point of view. There are ini files and DFT and RCS files stored in the Windows folder. The names are pretty clear - I think the mostly contain ...99SE in the name. My guess would be Cleint99SE.ini - you could edit it or just rename it so it gets recreated and filled with default values on next startup. You may want to back it up first. Tony is right in the sense that the application is not really all that resolution-aware but it will try to start up with the same sized windows as at the last shutdown. The problem could be in another of the configuration files - you could just back them all up and delete them all - but if you take the rcs files you will loose any customisations you have made (I doubt these rcs files would affect the screen like you are seeing though). Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size
Scroll bars where? If I have 99SE open with no project files, then no scroll bars exist. They only appear when I open a file which requires panning. I'm currently looking at a 'blank' 99SE running one two computers. One at 1024x768, and the other at 1280x1024. They look essentially the same. If I resize one of them, they still look the same. The only differences are the amount of pixels/detail I can see at a given zoom level and the size of dialog boxes. Since they are fixed, they look smaller on high-res monitors. Tony -Original Message- From: John Dammeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:04 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size Sorry, that's just not true. If I install the Protel on a system with a 1024x768 screen the bottom of the parent EDA window with scroll bars is clearly visible. If I install it into a system that has 1280x1024 screen same thing. If I now reduce the system resolution to 1024x768 from the 1280x768, the bottom of the parent vanishes. You can shrink it and do whatever but you can't get the bottom of the window into sight. It can't be stretched out. That means somewhere, Protel is hiding the installation screen dimensions. In a .ini file or some place in the registry. And, it's the only windows program I have ever run that has this problem. John You don't set the application to work with various screen resolutions. You work in the space dictated by the OS. If you set to 1024x768, you'll just have to suffer. -Original Message- From: John Dammeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size Hi, I had a 19 monitor die the other day and had to substitute a monitor that wasn't capable of displaying the same resolution so now for a while I'm stuck with 1024x768. Short of re-installing Protel 99SE how do I configure it so it can work within the smaller screen? I have searched the registry but can't find anything that relates to size. Thanks, John Dammeyer Wireless CAN with the CANRF module now available. http://www.autoartisans.com/products Automation Artisans Inc. Ph. 1 250 544 4950 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size
On 01:49 PM 9/06/2004, Tony Karavidas said: Scroll bars where? If I have 99SE open with no project files, then no scroll bars exist. They only appear when I open a file which requires panning. You can get scroll bars on the P99SE main window if you have an editor client window that is not maximised but is position so that part of it is out of the visible area of the application. Does that make sense? Is this what you are having a problem with, John. Can you put a screen shot on a web page for us to see? If you need somehere to put it try: http://www.proteluser.com You can stick attachments there. A good spot might be: http://www.proteluser.com/bbs/forumdisplay.php?f=19 Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size
Hi Tony, I can send you a screen capture if you want to see the problem. John Wireless CAN with the CANRF module now available. http://www.autoartisans.com/products Automation Artisans Inc. Ph. 1 250 544 4950 -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:49 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size Scroll bars where? If I have 99SE open with no project files, then no scroll bars exist. They only appear when I open a file which requires panning. I'm currently looking at a 'blank' 99SE running one two computers. One at 1024x768, and the other at 1280x1024. They look essentially the same. If I resize one of them, they still look the same. The only differences are the amount of pixels/detail I can see at a given zoom level and the size of dialog boxes. Since they are fixed, they look smaller on high-res monitors. Tony -Original Message- From: John Dammeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:04 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size Sorry, that's just not true. If I install the Protel on a system with a 1024x768 screen the bottom of the parent EDA window with scroll bars is clearly visible. If I install it into a system that has 1280x1024 screen same thing. If I now reduce the system resolution to 1024x768 from the 1280x768, the bottom of the parent vanishes. You can shrink it and do whatever but you can't get the bottom of the window into sight. It can't be stretched out. That means somewhere, Protel is hiding the installation screen dimensions. In a .ini file or some place in the registry. And, it's the only windows program I have ever run that has this problem. John You don't set the application to work with various screen resolutions. You work in the space dictated by the OS. If you set to 1024x768, you'll just have to suffer. -Original Message- From: John Dammeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size Hi, I had a 19 monitor die the other day and had to substitute a monitor that wasn't capable of displaying the same resolution so now for a while I'm stuck with 1024x768. Short of re-installing Protel 99SE how do I configure it so it can work within the smaller screen? I have searched the registry but can't find anything that relates to size. Thanks, John Dammeyer Wireless CAN with the CANRF module now available. http://www.autoartisans.com/products Automation Artisans Inc. Ph. 1 250 544 4950 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size
Hi Ian and Tony, http://www.autoartisans.com/protel/scrn1.jpg http://www.autoartisans.com/protel/scrn2.jpg Here's the two shots I've compressed the JPGs down to 800x600 which screws up the drawings a bit but shows the problem. Notice that the bottom scroll bar goes missing and even the bottom arrow of the RH scroll bar also vanishes. I'll check the .ini files out. Thanks for your input. John Wireless CAN with the CANRF module now available. http://www.autoartisans.com/products Automation Artisans Inc. Ph. 1 250 544 4950 -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:33 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel EDA Window Size On 01:49 PM 9/06/2004, Tony Karavidas said: Scroll bars where? If I have 99SE open with no project files, then no scroll bars exist. They only appear when I open a file which requires panning. You can get scroll bars on the P99SE main window if you have an editor client window that is not maximised but is position so that part of it is out of the visible area of the application. Does that make sense? Is this what you are having a problem with, John. Can you put a screen shot on a web page for us to see? If you need somehere to put it try: http://www.proteluser.com You can stick attachments there. A good spot might be: http://www.proteluser.com/bbs/forumdisplay.php?f=19 Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
