Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development
Hi Tony, I now see John address but your's isn't listed. Is there a setting I missed in Eudora that displays the original sender's address? Cheers mark At 03:41 PM 10/15/2002 -0700, you wrote: It is posted. As you can see in my simple 'reply', it shows the From field 3 lines below -Original Message- From: John Williams [mailto:john.williams;alumni.stanford.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Hi Mark, I did not realize that my email address was not being posted. I wonder if this is some sort of setup issue with the list server? Anyway, it is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, John Williams - Original Message - From: Mark witherite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Hi John, Can I ask why some posting to this forum have the poster's email address and other's don't ?In other words can you send me your email address. Cheers Mark Mark E Witherite CID 469 Nilson Rd Bellefonte PA 16823 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development
Hi John, Can I ask why some posting to this forum have the poster's email address and other's don't ?In other words can you send me your email address. Cheers Mark At 05:59 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, you wrote: Me too! Thanks, John Williams - Original Message - From: Terry Creer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Yes, I wouldn't mind a copy, either, thanks! TC [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mark witherite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Hi, Nasa published a paper on autorouter algorithms. Do you think that would be any help to you? I don't remember the link but I have a copy on the file. Cheers Mark Mark E Witherite CID 469 Nilson Rd Bellefonte PA 16823 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development
Hi Mark, I did not realize that my email address was not being posted. I wonder if this is some sort of setup issue with the list server? Anyway, it is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, John Williams - Original Message - From: Mark witherite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Hi John, Can I ask why some posting to this forum have the poster's email address and other's don't ?In other words can you send me your email address. Cheers Mark * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development
It is posted. As you can see in my simple 'reply', it shows the From field 3 lines below -Original Message- From: John Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Hi Mark, I did not realize that my email address was not being posted. I wonder if this is some sort of setup issue with the list server? Anyway, it is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, John Williams - Original Message - From: Mark witherite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Hi John, Can I ask why some posting to this forum have the poster's email address and other's don't ?In other words can you send me your email address. Cheers Mark * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development
Could I have a copy of that paper as well please. Kevin Knight Amino Communications Ltd. Longstanton House, Woodside, Longstanton, Cambs, CB4 5BU, UK. Tel: +44 (0)1954 784500 Tel: +44 (0)1954 784504 (direct) Fax: +44 (0)1954 784501 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mark witherite [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 October 2002 23:25 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Bevan, You got to help me on this one. What's your email address? Cheers Mark At 09:59 AM 10/14/2002 +1300, you wrote: That would be great. If you could email it to me offlist. I'm still waiting for Protel to put the SDK back up on the website however... - Original Message - From: Mark witherite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Hi, Nasa published a paper on autorouter algorithms. Do you think that would be any help to you? I don't remember the link but I have a copy on the file. Cheers Mark At 05:07 PM 10/10/2002 +1300, you wrote: Hi, I've been using Protel99SE when doing my tertiary design project, and have found that anything involving the word 'auto' seems to be pretty slack. I don't feel that the auto-router or the auto-placement are all they are made out to be. Hence I would like to know whether it's possible to develop a server like add-in for protel that would allow me to make my own autorouter. I know that it seems like a lot of work, however it would really make the product (protel) more functional in my terms. Any information that people could provide me in terms of server development would also be appreciated. I'm also wondering whether development of a server can be done in C, or whether delphi is the only option. Thanks, Bevan Weiss Mark E Witherite CID 469 Nilson Rd Bellefonte PA 16823 Mark E Witherite CID 469 Nilson Rd Bellefonte PA 16823 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development
Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development
Me too! Thanks, John Williams - Original Message - From: Terry Creer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Yes, I wouldn't mind a copy, either, thanks! TC [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mark witherite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Hi, Nasa published a paper on autorouter algorithms. Do you think that would be any help to you? I don't remember the link but I have a copy on the file. Cheers Mark * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development
Hi, Nasa published a paper on autorouter algorithms. Do you think that would be any help to you? I don't remember the link but I have a copy on the file. Cheers Mark At 05:07 PM 10/10/2002 +1300, you wrote: Hi, I've been using Protel99SE when doing my tertiary design project, and have found that anything involving the word 'auto' seems to be pretty slack. I don't feel that the auto-router or the auto-placement are all they are made out to be. Hence I would like to know whether it's possible to develop a server like add-in for protel that would allow me to make my own autorouter. I know that it seems like a lot of work, however it would really make the product (protel) more functional in my terms. Any information that people could provide me in terms of server development would also be appreciated. I'm also wondering whether development of a server can be done in C, or whether delphi is the only option. Thanks, Bevan Weiss Mark E Witherite CID 469 Nilson Rd Bellefonte PA 16823 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development
That would be great. If you could email it to me offlist. I'm still waiting for Protel to put the SDK back up on the website however... - Original Message - From: Mark witherite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Hi, Nasa published a paper on autorouter algorithms. Do you think that would be any help to you? I don't remember the link but I have a copy on the file. Cheers Mark At 05:07 PM 10/10/2002 +1300, you wrote: Hi, I've been using Protel99SE when doing my tertiary design project, and have found that anything involving the word 'auto' seems to be pretty slack. I don't feel that the auto-router or the auto-placement are all they are made out to be. Hence I would like to know whether it's possible to develop a server like add-in for protel that would allow me to make my own autorouter. I know that it seems like a lot of work, however it would really make the product (protel) more functional in my terms. Any information that people could provide me in terms of server development would also be appreciated. I'm also wondering whether development of a server can be done in C, or whether delphi is the only option. Thanks, Bevan Weiss Mark E Witherite CID 469 Nilson Rd Bellefonte PA 16823 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development
Bevan, You got to help me on this one. What's your email address? Cheers Mark At 09:59 AM 10/14/2002 +1300, you wrote: That would be great. If you could email it to me offlist. I'm still waiting for Protel to put the SDK back up on the website however... - Original Message - From: Mark witherite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Hi, Nasa published a paper on autorouter algorithms. Do you think that would be any help to you? I don't remember the link but I have a copy on the file. Cheers Mark At 05:07 PM 10/10/2002 +1300, you wrote: Hi, I've been using Protel99SE when doing my tertiary design project, and have found that anything involving the word 'auto' seems to be pretty slack. I don't feel that the auto-router or the auto-placement are all they are made out to be. Hence I would like to know whether it's possible to develop a server like add-in for protel that would allow me to make my own autorouter. I know that it seems like a lot of work, however it would really make the product (protel) more functional in my terms. Any information that people could provide me in terms of server development would also be appreciated. I'm also wondering whether development of a server can be done in C, or whether delphi is the only option. Thanks, Bevan Weiss Mark E Witherite CID 469 Nilson Rd Bellefonte PA 16823 Mark E Witherite CID 469 Nilson Rd Bellefonte PA 16823 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development
right... it should have been in the header for the message... [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mark witherite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Bevan, You got to help me on this one. What's your email address? Cheers Mark At 09:59 AM 10/14/2002 +1300, you wrote: That would be great. If you could email it to me offlist. I'm still waiting for Protel to put the SDK back up on the website however... - Original Message - From: Mark witherite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Hi, Nasa published a paper on autorouter algorithms. Do you think that would be any help to you? I don't remember the link but I have a copy on the file. Cheers Mark At 05:07 PM 10/10/2002 +1300, you wrote: Hi, I've been using Protel99SE when doing my tertiary design project, and have found that anything involving the word 'auto' seems to be pretty slack. I don't feel that the auto-router or the auto-placement are all they are made out to be. Hence I would like to know whether it's possible to develop a server like add-in for protel that would allow me to make my own autorouter. I know that it seems like a lot of work, however it would really make the product (protel) more functional in my terms. Any information that people could provide me in terms of server development would also be appreciated. I'm also wondering whether development of a server can be done in C, or whether delphi is the only option. Thanks, Bevan Weiss Mark E Witherite CID 469 Nilson Rd Bellefonte PA 16823 Mark E Witherite CID 469 Nilson Rd Bellefonte PA 16823 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development
Allot of work? That's probably the biggest understatement I've hear this year! But don't let me discourage you. If you can succeed in doing this - a whole team of programmers at Protel still have not - you will make many friends and allot of money. -Original Message- From: Bevan Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2002 15:07 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Hi, I've been using Protel99SE when doing my tertiary design project, and have found that anything involving the word 'auto' seems to be pretty slack. I don't feel that the auto-router or the auto-placement are all they are made out to be. Hence I would like to know whether it's possible to develop a server like add-in for protel that would allow me to make my own autorouter. I know that it seems like a lot of work, however it would really make the product (protel) more functional in my terms. Any information that people could provide me in terms of server development would also be appreciated. I'm also wondering whether development of a server can be done in C, or whether delphi is the only option. Thanks, Bevan Weiss * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development
I wouldn't charge for the router... However I also wouldn't develop it for anyone else but me. It seems that Protel had a room full of chimps developing alot of their stuff. I can't get how they can release Protel99SE with an auto-placement that causes components to get 'thrown' off the board entirely, and then crashes the PCB document when you ask it to make the changes, or make the changes anyway when you ask it to not save changes. That's the statistical routre btw. The standard cluster is ok, although it's placement leaves alot to be desired as well. The autorouter always seems to implement a greedy algorithm, ie won't move away from the target, unless it has to (ie it's boxed itself in such that it can only move forward). This gives rise to stupid loops where it goes all the way around a pin, some real crazy stuff... I reckon that given enough good feedback from designers about what's the best way to route a particular situation an autorouter could be produced that would do such a thing. It's after all just a series of line segments from one point to another (and then more...) It's not like it's a morbius strip, though it sometimes feels like... - Original Message - From: Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Allot of work? That's probably the biggest understatement I've hear this year! But don't let me discourage you. If you can succeed in doing this - a whole team of programmers at Protel still have not - you will make many friends and allot of money. -Original Message- From: Bevan Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2002 15:07 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] SDK and info on server development Hi, I've been using Protel99SE when doing my tertiary design project, and have found that anything involving the word 'auto' seems to be pretty slack. I don't feel that the auto-router or the auto-placement are all they are made out to be. Hence I would like to know whether it's possible to develop a server like add-in for protel that would allow me to make my own autorouter. I know that it seems like a lot of work, however it would really make the product (protel) more functional in my terms. Any information that people could provide me in terms of server development would also be appreciated. I'm also wondering whether development of a server can be done in C, or whether delphi is the only option. Thanks, Bevan Weiss * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
