Re: [PEDA] Synchroniser won't recognise components

2004-02-04 Thread Rich Thompson
Just a quick note about DXP, this is another area that has been dramatically
improved! There is now a component links editor in the pcb and a command to
reset all links (though it is hidden in an obscure place)

Rich

 Big Snip
There ought to be a button for Unlink PCB or something like that. But it
is easy enough to handle once you realize what is going on.



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Re: [PEDA] Synchroniser won't recognise components

2004-02-04 Thread Leo Potjewijd
Thank you all for putting me back on my feet, I feel a bit humble now.

Thanks to Mr. Lomax's in-depth explanation I now understand what went wrong 
(and solved it by means of the ASCII-trick).
I won't make that mistake again (hopefully).

By now,

Leo Potjewijd
hardware designer
Integrated Engineering B.V.
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Re: [PEDA] Synchroniser won't recognise components

2004-02-03 Thread Jon Elson


Leo Potjewijd wrote:

Hello.
I am trying to update an existing PCB (196U passive backplane): it 
needs to be shorter, lose some connectors and gain two connectors of a 
different type.

I changed the schematic (just a single sheet) to include all 
connectors and their interconnections (almost all of them got a new 
refdes); then I changed the PCB manually to add the new ones, delete 
the unwanted ones and renumbered them all according to the new schematic.

When I run 'update PCB' the synchroniser does not recognise two 
(different) connectors: it claims that J7 is not on the PCB (which it 
is) and that J13 is not on the schematic (which it is).
I checked all fields, names etc of the components in question but 
cannot find anything wrong.

Ugh, you've de-synchronized the synchronizer.

This occasionally happens when you manually change parts on the PCB and then
try to synchronize.  Once it happens, the synchronizer is very difficult 
to get working
right again, although it sometimes clears itself.  But, you can just go 
to manual
means.  Do a netlist generate in Protel schematic and then use the 
netlist load
function to reset the netlist info.  Then, do the netlist asssign nets 
to free primitives
function to reset any changed net names to the tracks and vias.  Then do 
a DRC,
and everything should be up to date.

Jon



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Re: [PEDA] Synchroniser won't recognise components

2004-02-03 Thread Ian Wilson
On 07:36 AM 4/02/2004, Jon Elson said:


Leo Potjewijd wrote:

Hello.
I am trying to update an existing PCB (196U passive backplane): it needs 
to be shorter, lose some connectors and gain two connectors of a 
different type.

I changed the schematic (just a single sheet) to include all connectors 
and their interconnections (almost all of them got a new refdes); then I 
changed the PCB manually to add the new ones, delete the unwanted ones 
and renumbered them all according to the new schematic.

When I run 'update PCB' the synchroniser does not recognise two 
(different) connectors: it claims that J7 is not on the PCB (which it is) 
and that J13 is not on the schematic (which it is).
I checked all fields, names etc of the components in question but cannot 
find anything wrong.
Ugh, you've de-synchronized the synchronizer.

This occasionally happens when you manually change parts on the PCB and then
try to synchronize.  Once it happens, the synchronizer is very difficult 
to get working
right again, although it sometimes clears itself.
I think the easiest way to clear the hidden synch handles is to save the 
PCB file as an ASCII file and the close and re-open.  When you try to 
re-synch the Match by Designator dialog will pop up to help you make the 
initial match.

Leo - you would probably have been better off only making the manual 
changes in Sch and then done an update.  this should have created macros to 
delete and change components as required and then you could have finished 
off the PCB.  This is what I do - almost all changes are driven from the 
Sch via the Update PCB (synchroniser).  Rarely would I muck about on both 
the Sch and the PCB at the same time unless I am really 
careful.  Occasionally I will change the footprint of a component on the 
PCB and then use the Update Sch to push that change back to the Sch.

Ian Wilson



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