Re: [PEDA] Unknown primitives (holes) on Planes, Urgent

2003-08-29 Thread Juha Pajunen
I used Querymanager from Edit-menu to select PADs that have 0 (zero) holesize.
First I select Pad from STATEMENT window and then from PROPERTIES window
Hole Size and value is 0.0
Protel99SE did select some pads from TOP and BOTTOM (SMD component
pins that have NO net), but also from Mechanical 8 and 7 layer where
are my Gerbers I imported. Then I used Shift DEL and PADs from
Mechanical 8 and 7 are gone! I generated Gerbers and chacked them with
CAMtastic and they are OK!

John, I wanna thank you VERY VERY much!!  Sun is shining again on my sky :)

Juha Pajunen


-Original Message-
From: John Haddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29. elokuuta 2003 4:21
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Unknown primitives (holes) on Planes, Urgent


I wonder whether you might have some size 0 pads that are forcing
a clearance in the planes. If this is the case then selecting 
"all on layer" on the ground plane won't help, since they'll
be multilayer components.

Try selecting all pads on the board and see if the weird bits
get selected too.

That's all I can think of.

John Haddy

> -Original Message-
> From: Juha Pajunen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, 29 August 2003 11:07 AM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: [PEDA] Unknown primitives (holes) on Planes, Urgent
> 
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I finished my PCB yesterday and generated gerber files from 
> Protel99SE+ SP6,
> running on W2K. I checked gerbers files (CAMtastic) I 
> generated and saw strange
> primitives (holes) on planes, see file on Yahoo... file name is
> 
> Unkmown_Primitives_on_planes_error.gif
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/junk/
> 
> 
> Plane on the picture is GND plane and there is a normal vias 
> that has opening
> with 8mil hole and some pads that has direct connection to 
> plane with 8 mil hole.
> But bottom side of the picture, there are those strange 
> primitives "holes" on plane.
> Same "holes" are also on other plane at the same place. 
> (Strange primitives are all
> over the PCB, this is not the only place where thay are...)
> The funniest thing is, that I CAN NOT SEE THOSE "holes or 
> primitives" on
> the PCB file with Protel99SE. I can select those primitives 
> with mouse by
> holding left mouse button down and then pull mouse, when I 
> use MS (move selection) command and
> move mouse like very fast I can see white rectangle on the 
> screen by knowing
> that there is someting selected and moving when I move mouse, 
> but still CAN NOT SEE ANYTHING.
> I moved those "things" and generatd new Gerber files and they 
> moved to the new place.
> I tried to delete those "things" by Selecting All On The 
> Layer (GND) and then unselect
> primitives I need and then delete, but not succeed.
> 
> I imported some Gerber files to my PCB file some time ago, but can not
> remember those holes/primitives on planes...
> 
> The question is how I can "find" and delete those damn 
> primitives from my PCB
> file so that in Gerber files there are anymore those primitives?!
> 
> Thank YOU!
> 
> Ps. already late ;(  (time is 3AM on Friday ;)
> 
> 
> Respectfully,
> Juha Pajunen, Hw Engineer
> Bitboys Oy
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [PEDA] Unknown primitives (holes) on Planes, Urgent

2003-08-29 Thread John Haddy
I wonder whether you might have some size 0 pads that are forcing
a clearance in the planes. If this is the case then selecting 
"all on layer" on the ground plane won't help, since they'll
be multilayer components.

Try selecting all pads on the board and see if the weird bits
get selected too.

That's all I can think of.

John Haddy

> -Original Message-
> From: Juha Pajunen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, 29 August 2003 11:07 AM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: [PEDA] Unknown primitives (holes) on Planes, Urgent
> 
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I finished my PCB yesterday and generated gerber files from 
> Protel99SE+ SP6,
> running on W2K. I checked gerbers files (CAMtastic) I 
> generated and saw strange
> primitives (holes) on planes, see file on Yahoo... file name is
> 
> Unkmown_Primitives_on_planes_error.gif
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/junk/
> 
> 
> Plane on the picture is GND plane and there is a normal vias 
> that has opening
> with 8mil hole and some pads that has direct connection to 
> plane with 8 mil hole.
> But bottom side of the picture, there are those strange 
> primitives "holes" on plane.
> Same "holes" are also on other plane at the same place. 
> (Strange primitives are all
> over the PCB, this is not the only place where thay are...)
> The funniest thing is, that I CAN NOT SEE THOSE "holes or 
> primitives" on
> the PCB file with Protel99SE. I can select those primitives 
> with mouse by
> holding left mouse button down and then pull mouse, when I 
> use MS (move selection) command and
> move mouse like very fast I can see white rectangle on the 
> screen by knowing
> that there is someting selected and moving when I move mouse, 
> but still CAN NOT SEE ANYTHING.
> I moved those "things" and generatd new Gerber files and they 
> moved to the new place.
> I tried to delete those "things" by Selecting All On The 
> Layer (GND) and then unselect
> primitives I need and then delete, but not succeed.
> 
> I imported some Gerber files to my PCB file some time ago, but can not
> remember those holes/primitives on planes...
> 
> The question is how I can "find" and delete those damn 
> primitives from my PCB
> file so that in Gerber files there are anymore those primitives?!
> 
> Thank YOU!
> 
> Ps. already late ;(  (time is 3AM on Friday ;)
> 
> 
> Respectfully,
> Juha Pajunen, Hw Engineer
> Bitboys Oy
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> NOTE:  This message, and any attached files, may contain 
> privileged or confidential information. It
> is intended for use only by the designated recipients. Any 
> disclosure, copying or distribution of,
> or reliance upon, this message by anyone else is strictly prohibited.
> 
> 
> 
> 



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