Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

2003-02-12 Thread Jörg Guttmann
Hello,

I had a similar problem with the Gerber Files generated from an unknown
program
on  a Apple Computer.  In my case, the Aperture Table was in the wrong
fomat.
I wrote a Perl Script for conversion of  these tables, then it worked.


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 I would greatly appreciate a copy of your macro.


 Thanks in advance,
 Nick Papas

 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Capps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:32
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

 Terry

 As Brad as said in his reply the gerbers need to be generated from protel
in
 the first place to be directly importable.

 For some gerber files you can get away with changing the header and for
 others it takes a bit more fuddling around. I have a word macro that I
have
 used in the past. It's very clunky but has worked every time if you want
it
 let me know.

 Ian Capps
 - Original Message -
 From: Terry Creer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Protel EDA Forum (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:52 AM
 Subject: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE


  Greetings all,
  I remember someone mentioning a while ago about importing Gerber
  files to view in P99SE. I was wondering what perhaps I am doing wrong...
 
  First, I create a new PCB. From the file menu,  I select Import. I then
  select .g?? single gerber from the drop down box and then select the
  gerber file I want to import. I hit open and voila! Nothing. Same
happens
 if
  I select .g?? batch gerber from the drop down box.
 
  Any ideas would be much appreciated, thanks!
 
  Terry Creer
 
 
 






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Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

2003-02-09 Thread Nick Papas
I would greatly appreciate a copy of your macro.


Thanks in advance,
Nick Papas

-Original Message-
From: Ian Capps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:32
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

Terry

As Brad as said in his reply the gerbers need to be generated from protel in
the first place to be directly importable.

For some gerber files you can get away with changing the header and for
others it takes a bit more fuddling around. I have a word macro that I have
used in the past. It's very clunky but has worked every time if you want it
let me know.

Ian Capps
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From: Terry Creer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE


 Greetings all,
 I remember someone mentioning a while ago about importing Gerber
 files to view in P99SE. I was wondering what perhaps I am doing wrong...

 First, I create a new PCB. From the file menu,  I select Import. I then
 select .g?? single gerber from the drop down box and then select the
 gerber file I want to import. I hit open and voila! Nothing. Same happens
if
 I select .g?? batch gerber from the drop down box.

 Any ideas would be much appreciated, thanks!

 Terry Creer







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Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

2003-01-22 Thread Andy Gulliver
I did wonder, but the original request just mentioned  importing Gerber
files to view in P99SE .

Obviously mine *was* a silly question :-)

Andy

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 21 January 2003 18:00
 To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE


 Andy,
   I believe you can surmise from various details of Terry's comments,
 he is loading some fabricator's Gerbers into Protel to create a new
 database. So he wants the Gerber in Protel to form his traces or
 to act as a
 template layer for his routing and generation of a new database.

 Sincerely,
 Brad Velander.

 Lead PCB Designer
 Norsat International Inc.
 Microwave Products
 Tel   (604) 292-9089 (direct line)
 Fax  (604) 292-9010
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.norsat.com


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  From: Andy Gulliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:31 AM
  To: Protel EDA Forum
  Subject: Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE
 
 
  OK, this may be a silly question... but how about using that
  free copy of
  Camtastic that came with P99SE to view the Gerbers?  The
  'auto load' works
  with just about everything I've thrown at it so far.
 
  Regards,
 
  Andy Gulliver
 


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Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

2003-01-21 Thread Andy Gulliver
OK, this may be a silly question... but how about using that free copy of
Camtastic that came with P99SE to view the Gerbers?  The 'auto load' works
with just about everything I've thrown at it so far.

Regards,

Andy Gulliver

 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Creer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 21 January 2003 05:48
 To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE


 Thanks for responding Brad and Ian,
   I'm not sure what application the Gerbers were generated in (they
 came from our PCB manufacturer), but I guess you guys are right then.

   Ian - I would appreciate that Macro, if you don't mind :)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thanks very much!

 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Capps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 4:02 PM
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE


 Terry

 As Brad as said in his reply the gerbers need to be generated
 from protel in
 the first place to be directly importable.

 For some gerber files you can get away with changing the header and for
 others it takes a bit more fuddling around. I have a word macro
 that I have
 used in the past. It's very clunky but has worked every time if
 you want it
 let me know.

 Ian Capps
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Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

2003-01-21 Thread Brad Velander
Andy,
I believe you can surmise from various details of Terry's comments,
he is loading some fabricator's Gerbers into Protel to create a new
database. So he wants the Gerber in Protel to form his traces or to act as a
template layer for his routing and generation of a new database.

Sincerely,
Brad Velander.

Lead PCB Designer
Norsat International Inc.
Microwave Products
Tel   (604) 292-9089 (direct line)
Fax  (604) 292-9010
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.norsat.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Gulliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:31 AM
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE
 
 
 OK, this may be a silly question... but how about using that 
 free copy of
 Camtastic that came with P99SE to view the Gerbers?  The 
 'auto load' works
 with just about everything I've thrown at it so far.
 
 Regards,
 
 Andy Gulliver
 

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Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

2003-01-20 Thread Brad Velander
Terry,
initial suspicions would point toward the fact your Gerber may not
be a Gerber that was originally generated by Protel or it was processed post
generation by Protel. Protel P99SE is only supposed to import Gerber that
was generated by it or has the exact same characteristics as if it was
generated by Protel initially. In short Protel Gerber output only utilizes a
subset of the available Gerber commands and functions, therefore it doesn't
import anything that has certain unsupported Gerber functions in the file.
In some cases it is as simple as a little text editing to the first few
lines of the Gerber file.

There is a Protel Knowledge item that describes the Gerber file
format (particularly the header issues) that must be there for the file to
import properly. Others might be able to point you to the precise Knowledge
Base item but I have never used it so I don't know the particular number off
hand.

In short Protel P99SE is quite particular about what Gerber it will
import. If you are transferring old Gerber designs to Protel or something
similar, you will need to become quite familiar with the Gerber massaging
necessary to get it imported to Protel P99SE.

Sincerely,
Brad Velander.

Lead PCB Designer
Norsat International Inc.
Microwave Products
Tel   (604) 292-9089 (direct line)
Fax  (604) 292-9010
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.norsat.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Creer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:52 PM
 To: Protel EDA Forum (E-mail)
 Subject: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE
 
 
 Greetings all,
   I remember someone mentioning a while ago about importing Gerber
 files to view in P99SE. I was wondering what perhaps I am 
 doing wrong...
 
 First, I create a new PCB. From the file menu,  I select 
 Import. I then
 select .g?? single gerber from the drop down box and then select the
 gerber file I want to import. I hit open and voila! Nothing. 
 Same happens if
 I select .g?? batch gerber from the drop down box.
 
 Any ideas would be much appreciated, thanks!
 
 Terry Creer

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Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

2003-01-20 Thread Ian Capps
Terry

As Brad as said in his reply the gerbers need to be generated from protel in
the first place to be directly importable.

For some gerber files you can get away with changing the header and for
others it takes a bit more fuddling around. I have a word macro that I have
used in the past. It's very clunky but has worked every time if you want it
let me know.

Ian Capps
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From: Terry Creer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE


 Greetings all,
 I remember someone mentioning a while ago about importing Gerber
 files to view in P99SE. I was wondering what perhaps I am doing wrong...

 First, I create a new PCB. From the file menu,  I select Import. I then
 select .g?? single gerber from the drop down box and then select the
 gerber file I want to import. I hit open and voila! Nothing. Same happens
if
 I select .g?? batch gerber from the drop down box.

 Any ideas would be much appreciated, thanks!

 Terry Creer




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Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

2003-01-20 Thread Terry Creer
Thanks for responding Brad and Ian,
I'm not sure what application the Gerbers were generated in (they
came from our PCB manufacturer), but I guess you guys are right then.

Ian - I would appreciate that Macro, if you don't mind :)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks very much!

-Original Message-
From: Ian Capps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 4:02 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE


Terry

As Brad as said in his reply the gerbers need to be generated from protel in
the first place to be directly importable.

For some gerber files you can get away with changing the header and for
others it takes a bit more fuddling around. I have a word macro that I have
used in the past. It's very clunky but has worked every time if you want it
let me know.

Ian Capps
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From: Terry Creer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE


 Greetings all,
 I remember someone mentioning a while ago about importing Gerber
 files to view in P99SE. I was wondering what perhaps I am doing wrong...

 First, I create a new PCB. From the file menu,  I select Import. I then
 select .g?? single gerber from the drop down box and then select the
 gerber file I want to import. I hit open and voila! Nothing. Same happens
if
 I select .g?? batch gerber from the drop down box.

 Any ideas would be much appreciated, thanks!

 Terry Creer





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Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE

2003-01-20 Thread Emanuel Zimmermann
Terry,

I hope Ian's Macro will work for you. Though I don't know it, I'm sure it will 
be the easiest way to do what you intend. However, if it shouldn't work you may 
try the DXP trial. I recently did the exact same job with it. There you can 
import the Gerbers to Camtastic and export it to a PCB document (and that can be 
saved in a P99SE readable form if required). It is a little bit tricky to set up 
correct, but with the help of an article in the online help I managed to do it 
quiet easy.

Emanuel

Terry Creer wrote:
Thanks for responding Brad and Ian,
	I'm not sure what application the Gerbers were generated in (they
came from our PCB manufacturer), but I guess you guys are right then.

	Ian - I would appreciate that Macro, if you don't mind :)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks very much!

-Original Message-
From: Ian Capps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 4:02 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE


Terry

As Brad as said in his reply the gerbers need to be generated from protel in
the first place to be directly importable.

For some gerber files you can get away with changing the header and for
others it takes a bit more fuddling around. I have a word macro that I have
used in the past. It's very clunky but has worked every time if you want it
let me know.

Ian Capps
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From: Terry Creer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: [PEDA] Gerber Import / Viewing in P99SE




Greetings all,
I remember someone mentioning a while ago about importing Gerber
files to view in P99SE. I was wondering what perhaps I am doing wrong...

First, I create a new PCB. From the file menu,  I select Import. I then
select .g?? single gerber from the drop down box and then select the
gerber file I want to import. I hit open and voila! Nothing. Same happens


if


I select .g?? batch gerber from the drop down box.

Any ideas would be much appreciated, thanks!

Terry Creer











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