Re: [protest-ro] SCRISOARE DESCHISA PRESEDINTELUI ROMANIEI
Care e buba cu Al Jazeera? Cu mister Stanciu stiu. Totusi au schimbat cumva pe cablu BBC cu Al Jazeera de nu mai prididesti cu stiri tendentioase? Administratia Bush e dubioasa dintr-o multime de puncte de vedere. Doar fiindca e made in USA nu inseamna ca e si bun. By the way, de unde o fi prins Saddam gustul pt arme chimice? Asta asa, ca fapt divers pt. aparatorii democratiei. - Original Message - From: valachus per skorilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: protest-ro@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [protest-ro] SCRISOARE DESCHISA PRESEDINTELUI ROMANIEI Parerea mea e ca ieri ai stat cu televizorul inchis sau te-ai uitat doar la Al-Jazeera. Citez: astazi, dupa doi ani de confruntari, este evident pentru toata lumea ca poporul irakian este principala victima a acestui conflict, nicidecum beneficiarul sau. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- DonorsChoose. A simple way to provide underprivileged children resources often lacking in public schools. Fund a student project in NYC/NC today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5F6XtA/.WnJAA/E2hLAA/DXOolB/TM ~- Sageata Albastra e cea mai mare tzeapa a transportului public! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protest-ro/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [protest-ro] SCRISOARE DESCHISA PRESEDINTELUI ROMANIEI
Saddam's gas victims blame the West, too Elaine Sciolino NYT Friday, February 14, 2003 ISFAHAN, Iran His breath was loud and hard, his mouth wide open as he struggled to force air into his lungs. I am, said Mohammed Moussavi, a living martyr. . Almost 15 years after Iran's war with Iraq ended, Moussavi and thousands of others like him are painful reminders of the long-lasting effect of Iraq's use of chemical weapons in that eight-year conflict. . His story is typical of a war generation that fervently believed, after Iraq invaded in 1980, in the need to defend Iran and, later, to overthrow Saddam Hussein. . In March 1988, four months before Iran declared a cease-fire, he was badly wounded on the battlefield, not by bombs or bullets but by mustard gas. . We were wearing gas masks because we expected Saddam to use chemical weapons, he recalled. But there was too much gas. I suddenly felt a bitter taste in my mouth, and then my mouth filled with blood. I put on a new mask, but the gas had already affected my body. . Today, at 40, Moussavi is chained to an oxygen concentrator. His lungs and air passages are permanently scarred, his vision blurred, his skin susceptible to peeling and rashes. When the breathing nearly stops, he chokes and his chest heaves. This is a very burdensome illness, both for me and my family, he said. I never feel I'm getting enough oxygen. The phlegm I cough is filled with blood and hard like bricks. . During the war, about 100,000 people were killed or wounded in chemical weapons attacks by the Iraqis, said Dr. Hamid Sohrabpour, a pulmonary specialist and the director of Iran's chemical treatment program. Iran has compiled records for about 30,000 of them. . One in every 10 of these victims died before receiving treatment, he said. About 5,000 to 6,000 still receive regular medical care under government-financed programs. . In building an argument for war against Iraq, President George W. Bush has stressed the need to rid the world of whatever may be left of Iraq's ballistic missile arsenal and its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs. . The fear that Iraq still might have such weapons drove the UN Security Council in November to approve unanimously a resolution calling on the Iraqi regime to disarm or face serious consequences. . But there is deep resentment and anger here that it was Western companies that helped Iraq develop its chemical weapons arsenal in the first place and that the world did nothing to punish Iraq for its use of chemical weapons throughout the war. . The world knew, Moussavi said. Iraq developed these weapons with the help of the United States and the West. No matter how many times Iranians shouted that Iraq was using chemical weapons, they were ignored. I don't know why the United States has suddenly become kinder than a mother for the suffering of us chemical weapons patients. . Sohrabpour is equally frustrated. We took patients to Germany, to Britain, to France, but no one stopped Saddam's regime from using these terrible weapons, he said. The United States let him develop, stockpile and use these weapons. Now suddenly it's changed. The fact is that the United States is only after its own interests. It doesn't care about what has happened to people. . After a small group of American and European journalists visiting the war front in February 1984 independently verified the use of chemical weapons, the U.S. State Department publicly stated that evidence suggested that Iraq had used the lethal weapons. It was the first confirmed use of the banned substances since World War I. But the United States, which tilted toward Iraq after it decided that Iran was a more dangerous country, did nothing. . Two years later, Iraq began using chemical weapons as an integral part of its battlefield strategy and a regular and recurring tactic, according to a declassified report by the CIA. . A move led by some Democrats in the U.S. Senate to impose sanctions on Iraq after it used chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds in the town of Halabja in 1988 went nowhere. . The Iraqis used both liquid and dry forms of mustard agent, which burns body tissue and causes blindness, severe blistering, skin discoloration and lung damage, and nerve agents like sarin and tabun, which paralyze the muscles and cause convulsions and vomiting that can lead to death. . Nerve gas victims usually died on the spot unless they were immediately treated with antidotes. But many mustard gas victims survived, developing ailments that worsened over time and often led to death. . The 12,000-page weapons declaration that Iraq delivered to the United Nations in December identifies 31 major foreign suppliers for its chemical weapons program, including two companies based in the United States that are now defunct, 14 from Germany, 3 each from the Netherlands and Switzerland and 2 each from France and Austria. . The plight of chemical weapons patients in Iran is complicated by the fact that Iranian
[protest-ro] SCRISOARE DESCHISA PRESEDINTELUI ROMANIEI
SCRISOARE DESCHISA PRESEDINTELUI ROMANIEI Nota A.M.: Ceea ce puteti citi mai jos este o luare de pozitie, de care adevarata societate civila romaneasca - nu cea a elitistilor si liderilor de opinie, ci aceea alcatuita din cetateni obisnuiti - duce lipsa. Scrisoarea a fost inregistrata la Administratia Prezidentiala, iar raspunsul, la care Presedintia este obligata prin lege, va fi facut public. Daca sunteti de acord cu aceasta luate de pozitie, puteti scrie si trimite in nume propriu o scrisoare similara, sau daca nu aveti timp sau inspiratie, puteti prelua acelasi text. Dupa trimitere, aveti grija sa sunati pentru confirmare si inregistrare! http://ro.altermedia.info Asociatia Altermedia, Bucuresti, .. Catre, PRESEDINTIA ROMÂNIEI - Compartimentul pentru Probleme cetatenesti, audiente si petitii Palatul Cotroceni, Strada Geniului nr. 1-3, Sector 5 - Bucuresti, 060116 tel. 410.05.81 - interior 363; 305; fax: 410.38.58, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dlui Sorin Stanciu, Consilier de Stat - in atentia Dlui Presedinte Traian Basescu - Domnule Presedinte, Am luat act cu suprindere si neplacere, de decizia dumneavoastra privind suplimentarea efectivelor militare romanesti prezente in Irak de partea coalitiei pro-americane. In data de 17 ianuarie 2005, dumneavoastra ati aprobat hotararea CSAT, prin care Romania mareste contingentul militar din Irak cu 100 de infanteristi. Aceasta, in timp ce Polonia si-a retras soldatii din Irak, iar Ungaria si Bulgaria urmeaza sa faca la fel, ca sa mentionam doar tarile apropiate noua ca pozitie geografica. Sinteti desigur la curent cu concluziile echipei de cercetatori condusa de Charles A. Duelfer, care dupa aproape doi ani de cautari asidue a ajuns la concluzia ca nu exista si nici nu au existat arme de distrugere in masa in Irak. Aceasta inseamna ca principalul motiv al invadarii Irakului, invocat de presedintele american Bush (care spunea, pe 7 octombrie 2002, Dictatorului irakian nu trebuie sa i se permita sa ameninte America si lumea cu boli, otravuri si arme atomice) a fost dovedit in mod oficial drept o minciuna. Este trist ca la citeva zile dupa ce agresiunea contra Irakului a fost in sfirsit dovedita ca nelegitima, dumneavoastra persistati in greseala lui Ion Iliescu, predecesorul dumneavoastra, si confirmati angajarea Romaniei, din punct de vedere militar, intr-o operatiune nelegitima. Un alt motiv invocat de partizanii invadarii Irakului a fost acela ca poporul irakian trebuie eliberat de dictatorul Saddam Hussein si ajutat sa se inscrie pe drumul democratiei si stabilitatii. Din nou il citam pe seful statului american (19 martie 2003): Misiunea noastra este sa dezarmam Irakul si sa eliberam oamenii de tiranie. Astazi, dupa doi ani de confruntari, este evident pentru toata lumea ca poporul irakian este principala victima a acestui conflict, nicidecum beneficiarul sau. Zeci de mii de irakieni nevinovati au murit, milioane traiesc in mizerie si sufera de foame, in timp ce corporatiile transnationale prospera de pe urma petrolului irakian, iar gruparile fundamentaliste islamice se dezvolta in voie. Acestea sint democratia si stabilitatea promise, domnule Presedinte Basescu? La izbucnirea razboiului, putine organizatii au luat pozitie impotriva invadarii unei tari suverane si impotriva participarii Romaniei la aceasta agresiune. Daca acum doi ani exista scuza necunoasterii realitatii, iar increderea in partenerul american era oarecum justificata, acum, dupa ce toate pretextele invocate pentru invadarea Irakului s-au dovedit false, nu mai aveti nici o scuza pentru a pune in pericol vietile soldatilor romani. Sintem in masura sa intelegem ratiunile politicii de stat a României, stat mic si neputincios care nu are alta sansa de a supravietui decit de a se alia cu un partener puternic precum SUA. Dar nu sintem de acord ca acest parteneriat sa insemne complicitate la crimele de razboi comise de soldatii americani, participarea Romaniei la ocuparea nejustificata a unei natiuni suverane, sau punerea in pericol a vietilor unor romani pentru interese straine. Daca, in calitate de Presedinte al Romaniei, nu puteti gasi alta solutie pentru securitatea tarii decit alianta cu o putere imperialista si agresiva, puteti macar lua exemplu de la alte state care au fost la rindul lor nevoite sa se alieze cu SUA, dar nu au luat parte la rusinoasa invadare a Irakului sau si-au retras in mod onorabil trupele. Tarile vecine noua si-au retras trupele abia dupa ce mai multi militari si-au pierdut viata. Este nevoie sa moara si militari romani pentru ca autoritatile tarii noastre sa procedeze la fel? Ati promis ca veti tine cont de interesele romanilor daca veti ajunge presedintele lor. Va rog sa raspundeti la urmatoarea intrebare: Credeti ca suplimentarea contingentului romanesc in Irak serveste interesul national? Va solicit, in incheiere, domnule
Re: [protest-ro] SCRISOARE DESCHISA PRESEDINTELUI ROMANIEI
Parerea mea e ca ieri ai stat cu televizorul inchis sau te-ai uitat doar la Al-Jazeera. Citez: astazi, dupa doi ani de confruntari, este evident pentru toata lumea ca poporul irakian este principala victima a acestui conflict, nicidecum beneficiarul sau. Nu e deloc evident asa ceva, 'ai sictir deci si la culcare, moftangiilor. Irakienii savureaza democratia, nu sunt o natiune de abrutizati sau de lashi si observ cu satisfactie ca adevaratele culori ale fascistilor deghizati in forte progresiste din toata lumea apar la iveala. Mai mult, suntetzi total pe dinafara, unde atzi auzit voi ca polonezii s-ar fi RETRAS DEJA din Iraq?? E clar, Al Jazeera e principala sursa de informare pentru Al Termedia. valachus - Original Message - From: Bogdan-Ioan Stanciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: protest-ro@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 10:56 PM Subject: [protest-ro] SCRISOARE DESCHISA PRESEDINTELUI ROMANIEI SCRISOARE DESCHISA PRESEDINTELUI ROMANIEI Nota A.M.: Ceea ce puteti citi mai jos este o luare de pozitie, de care adevarata societate civila romaneasca - nu cea a elitistilor si liderilor de opinie, ci aceea alcatuita din cetateni obisnuiti - duce lipsa. http://ro.altermedia.info Asociatia Altermedia, Bucuresti, .. Catre, PRESEDINTIA ROMÂNIEI - Compartimentul pentru Probleme cetatenesti, audiente si petitii Domnule Presedinte, Am luat act cu suprindere si neplacere, de decizia dumneavoastra privind suplimentarea efectivelor militare romanesti prezente in Irak de partea coalitiei pro-americane. In data de 17 ianuarie 2005, dumneavoastra ati aprobat hotararea CSAT, prin care Romania mareste contingentul militar din Irak cu 100 de infanteristi. Aceasta, in timp ce Polonia si-a retras soldatii din Irak, iar Ungaria si Bulgaria urmeaza sa faca la fel, ca sa mentionam doar tarile apropiate noua ca pozitie geografica. Un alt motiv invocat de partizanii invadarii Irakului a fost acela ca poporul irakian trebuie eliberat de dictatorul Saddam Hussein si ajutat sa se inscrie pe drumul democratiei si stabilitatii. Din nou il citam pe seful statului american (19 martie 2003): Misiunea noastra este sa dezarmam Irakul si sa eliberam oamenii de tiranie. Astazi, dupa doi ani de confruntari, este evident pentru toata lumea ca poporul irakian este principala victima a acestui conflict, nicidecum beneficiarul sau. Zeci de mii de irakieni nevinovati au murit, milioane traiesc in mizerie si sufera de foame, in timp ce corporatiile transnationale prospera de pe urma petrolului irakian, iar gruparile fundamentaliste islamice se dezvolta in voie. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.1 - Release Date: 27.01.2005 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital's 'Thanks Giving.' http://us.click.yahoo.com/mGEjbB/5WnJAA/E2hLAA/DXOolB/TM ~- Sageata Albastra e cea mai mare tzeapa a transportului public! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protest-ro/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
