Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie Lucian Branea

haha, deabia acum am aruncat o privire pe messageboardul de pe site-ul lui
Crichton si am gasit postul asta... pls comment...

Here are the headlines from 2029...

The year 2029

* Ozone created by electric cars now killing millions in the seventh largest
country in the world, Mexifornia formally known as California.

* Spotted Owl plague threatens northwestern United States crops and
livestock.

* Baby conceived naturally . . . scientists stumped.

* Couple petitions court to reinstate heterosexual marriage.

* Last remaining Fundamentalist Muslim dies in the American Territory of the
Middle East (formerly known as Iran, Afghanistan, Syria and Lebanon).

* Iran still closed off; physicists estimate it will take at least 10 more
years before radioactivity decreases to safe levels.

* France pleads for global help after being over taken by Jamaica.

* Castro finally dies at age 112; Cuban cigars can now be imported legally,
but President Chelsea Clinton has banned all smoking.

* George Z. Bush says he will run for President in 2036.

* Postal Service raises price of first class stamp to $17.89 and reduces
mail delivery to Wednesdays only.

* 85-year, $75.8 billion study: Diet and Exercise is the key to weight loss.

* Average weight of Americans drops to 250 lbs.

* Japanese scientists have created a camera with such a fast shutter speed,
they now can photograph a woman with her mouth shut.

* Massachusetts executes last remaining conservative.

* Supreme Court rules punishment of criminals violates their civil rights.

* Average height of NBA players now nine feet, seven inches.

* New federal law requires that all nail clippers, screwdrivers, fly
swatters and rolled-up newspapers must be registered by January 2036.

* Congress authorizes direct deposit of formerly illegal political
contributions to campaign accounts.

* IRS sets lowest tax rate at 75 percent.

And last but certainly not the least... (I love it)..

* Florida Democrats still don't know how to use a voting machine.




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Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

D-le Branea,

ma tem ca ati scris un mesaj prea ermetic, asa incat in grupul asta de
discutii cel putin, desi ar fi fost amuzant la culme sa auzim reactiile din
suflet ale bobulatziei, asta n-o sa se intample decat daca problema e expusa
scurt pe doi, dupa cum urmeaza:

Cel mai nou roman (care nu prea mai e roman ci deja scriere politica) al lui
Michael Crichton ia de freza teoria incalzirii globale, tratatul de la Kyoto
si alte chipuri cioplite ale eco-anarhismului mondial si da cu ele de
peretzi de le sar dintzii! Si, culmea blasfemiei, cu abundentza de
argumente.

Si recomand dreptcredinciosilor eco-anarhisti ca lectura suplimentara
oricare din cartzile apostatului Bjorn Lomborg. O sa va faca sa va urcatzi
pe peretzi!

valachus



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Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie Codruta

From: valachus per skorilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ma tem ca ati scris un mesaj prea ermetic, asa incat in grupul asta de
 discutii cel putin, desi ar fi fost amuzant la culme sa auzim reactiile
din
 suflet ale bobulatziei, asta n-o sa se intample decat daca problema e
expusa
 scurt pe doi, dupa cum urmeaza:

Ma bucur, totusi, ca pe lista asta exista si un tip destept (alaturi de
incontestabilul D. Schiau). Inteleg de aici ca merita, totusi, sa pastrez
lista, mersi, valachus! :-p

De ce ar trebui sa ne urcam pe pereti, pentru niste romane?
MOR de curioasa : :))

Codruta


 Cel mai nou roman (care nu prea mai e roman ci deja scriere politica) al
lui
 Michael Crichton ia de freza teoria incalzirii globale, tratatul de la
Kyoto
 si alte chipuri cioplite ale eco-anarhismului mondial si da cu ele de
 peretzi de le sar dintzii! Si, culmea blasfemiei, cu abundentza de
 argumente.

 Si recomand dreptcredinciosilor eco-anarhisti ca lectura suplimentara
 oricare din cartzile apostatului Bjorn Lomborg. O sa va faca sa va urcatzi
 pe peretzi!

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Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Tocmai fiindca nu-s deloc romane, si fiindca dupa cum ziceam indivizii astia
doi se pare ca fac praf balivernele eco-apocaliptice devenite truisme in
prezent. Cititi si carcotiti dupa aia :)

O seara buna,

valachus

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 Ma bucur, totusi, ca pe lista asta exista si un tip destept (alaturi de
 incontestabilul D. Schiau). Inteleg de aici ca merita, totusi, sa pastrez
 lista, mersi, valachus! :-p

Exista cel putin doi, totusi, fiindca alaturi de d-l Branea indraznesc sa ma
includ si pe mine, cu voia dumneavoastra, in respectiva subcategorie.

 De ce ar trebui sa ne urcam pe pereti, pentru niste romane?
 MOR de curioasa : :))







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Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie Codruta

From: valachus per skorilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Tocmai fiindca nu-s deloc romane, si fiindca dupa cum ziceam indivizii
astia
 doi se pare ca fac praf balivernele eco-apocaliptice devenite truisme in
 prezent. Cititi si carcotiti dupa aia :)

eh! o gramada de kestii de pe lumea asta nu-s romane... nici filme (parca
era unul cu 11 sept.? ;)). da' unele sunt intens contestate, de zici ca
ar intoarce lumea cu susu'n jos :-pp

Nici viata mea nu-i un roman - dar daca as scrie despre momentul in care
am facut o poza cu o broscuta testoasa si totce s-a intamplat dupa aia
(inclusiv corespondenta mea chiar din aceasta clipa ;), cred ca Dl. Branea
ar zice ca-i un SF prost ;))

Codruta

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Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Acilea ie un paradocs daca pot zice-asa, unde Fahrenheit era o piesa jalnica
de agitprop (fictiune) care se pretindea, pentru foloase necuvenite,
docomentar riguros realist, apai State of Fear este, din cate vad, o scriere
realista deghizata in roman de actiune.

Asta ca sa vezi si sa nu crezi unde-au adus lumea occidentala corectii
politic-stiintific-ecologic, ca sa le combati fanatismul ideologic si sa ai
succes de piatza trebuie sa-ti maschezi manifestul sub forma de fictiune.
Scandalos, madame!

P.S. Lomborg nu scrie fictiune ci studii stiintifice irefutabile, iar daca
aveati curiozitatea sa cititi integral articolul lui Crichton in engleza
puteati afla, bunaoara, ca printre realizarile cu-adevarat notabile ale
miscarii ecologiste mondiale, din care imi pare ca revendicati a fi, se
numara moartea a catorva zeci de milioane de oameni ca urmare a interzicerii
productiei si utilizarii de DDT.

Invatati, invatati, invatati, cum bine zicea tovarasul Lenin - de cate ori
am zis-o pe lista asta, si tot de-atatea ori am zis-o in desert. Deh.



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 From: valachus per skorilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Tocmai fiindca nu-s deloc romane, si fiindca dupa cum ziceam indivizii
 astia
  doi se pare ca fac praf balivernele eco-apocaliptice devenite truisme in
  prezent. Cititi si carcotiti dupa aia :)

 eh! o gramada de kestii de pe lumea asta nu-s romane... nici filme
(parca
 era unul cu 11 sept.? ;)). da' unele sunt intens contestate, de zici
ca
 ar intoarce lumea cu susu'n jos :-pp

 Nici viata mea nu-i un roman - dar daca as scrie despre momentul in care
 am facut o poza cu o broscuta testoasa si totce s-a intamplat dupa aia
 (inclusiv corespondenta mea chiar din aceasta clipa ;), cred ca Dl. Branea
 ar zice ca-i un SF prost ;))

 Codruta

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Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie Lucian Branea

iar reformulez :)

 Asta ca sa vezi si sa nu crezi unde-au adus lumea occidentala corectii
politic-stiintific-ecologic, ca sa le combati fanatismul ideologic si sa ai
succes de piatza trebuie sa-ti maschezi manifestul sub forma de fictiune.

Discutia asta o aveam si la facultatea de filologie, cu florin manolescu, pe
tema caragiale: mixarea genurilor pentru acrosarea unor tipuri
diverse/excluzive de public... Daca premisa 'manifestului' este atingerea
unor esantioane cit mai vaste de public, nu pleci in aceasta cruciada cu
articole din Nature sau, mai rau, din Bulletin of the American
Meteorological Society, ci cu un thriller care, si daca ar contine doar pete
de cerneala, tot s-ar vinde in minimum un milion de exemplare. As simple as
that.. :)

 moartea a catorva zeci de milioane de oameni ca urmare a interzicerii
productiei si utilizarii de DDT.

asta cu DDT-ul e o discutie veche - si e si, inca, o tinta usoara - pentru
ambele tabere, dupa cite se vede, ca nici una n-a reusit s-o convinga pe
cealalta, in ciuda docomentelor, si a exagerarilor pe marginea acestora :)
mai bine incercam cu fumatul, eventual cu fumatul second-hand, despre care
's-a descoperit' ca produce cancer la sin.. well..



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Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie Codruta

From: Lucian Branea [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 mai bine incercam cu fumatul, eventual cu fumatul second-hand, despre care
 's-a descoperit' ca produce cancer la sin.. well..

hahaha! asta de la ce? ca se dezvolta disproportionat muschii pe partea
mainii cu care se duca tigarea la gura? ;)))

Codruta

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Re: [protest-ro] Re: [grup22] state of fear :) 2

2005-03-09 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

Reformulez si eu, fiindca observatia e justa. Problema nu e, intr-adevar, ca
un autor etichetat SF foloseste un roman deloc SF - imi luai si eu cartea de
undeva de pe web (nu spui de unde :D si o s-o citesc zilele urmatoare)  si
intr-adevar e ultrastufoasa cu tabele pentru o scriere literara - pentru a
promova o idee corecta dar nepopulara.
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Problema e ca establishmentul stiintific, politic, jurnalistic si in general
opinia publica din lumea larga nu permit, sub nici o forma sa li se spuna,
sub aspectul ipotezei lor fundamentale a eschatonului ecologic inevitabil,
si nu numai, ca bat campii!
Parca am vorbi de URSS-ul anilor 50 si de contestarea miciurinismului, gest
care te-ar fi lasat fara slujba si te-ar fi aruncat direct in Gulag!
Lomborg, de care am vorbit mai inainte, e un om efectiv vanat de aktivistii
environmentalismului, atat profesional cat chiar si fizic!

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Daca premisa 'manifestului' este atingerea
 unor esantioane cit mai vaste de public, nu pleci in aceasta cruciada cu
 articole din Nature sau, mai rau, din Bulletin of the American
 Meteorological Society, ci cu un thriller care, si daca ar contine doar
pete
 de cerneala, tot s-ar vinde in minimum un milion de exemplare. As simple
as
 that.. :)

 asta cu DDT-ul e o discutie veche - si e si, inca, o tinta usoara - pentru
 ambele tabere, dupa cite se vede, ca nici una n-a reusit s-o convinga pe
 cealalta, in ciuda docomentelor, si a exagerarilor pe marginea acestora :)
 mai bine incercam cu fumatul, eventual cu fumatul second-hand, despre care
 's-a descoperit' ca produce cancer la sin.. well..

Iata ca asta cu DDT-ul nu-i deloc o tinta usoara - problema cu
dreptcredinciosii de orice fel e ca sunt total supusi adagiului credo quia
absurdum (sau in zilele noastre, moralem, ca-i trendy sa fii moralist)
est. Faza asta cu interdictia DDT-ului de altfel e izbitor de similara cu
atitudinea vis-a-vis de bolsevism: n-a omorat decat cateva zeci de milioane
de oameni, si are si parti bune (care? urmeaza litania de lozinci de
agitprop), deci merita inca o sansa!



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