Re: [protext] PDF demands

2008-03-20 Thread Thomas Feuerstack
Klaus Hoeppner schrieb:
 Foxit is great since it's small and runnable without prior installation, 
 but the last time I tried it, it didn't support starting external 
 applications.

Due to a mail i received some weeks ago, this seems to be fixed. 
Nevertheless it would be great if someone could prove it.
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Re: [protext] PDF demands

2008-03-19 Thread Thomas Feuerstack
Ben schrieb:
 OK, so I'm trying to install ProTeXt. Or in fact I only need LaTeX,
 but I understood that I then needed this huge package.

Then you understood wrong. In case you only need LaTeX, there's no 
obstacle to load MiKTeX directly from www.miktex.org

 Now, I happen to really have a strong dislike for Adobe's monstrously
 huge pdf-reader.
 I use FoxIt pdf-reader (http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/), so
 why this weird requirement of commercial Adobe software I don't need?
 Could someone tell me how to skip this nonsense and install without
 being force-fed a ridiculous Adobe Acrobat monster?

Start FoxIt and open install\protext-install-en.pdf - i've got some 
notes that it may work. Alternatively enter  MiKTeX\setup and start 
MiKTeX's setup-routine manually.

 It's bad enough that its footprint is the size of an entire CD (why,
 by the way? OpenOffice.org's full install is only 110 MB..)

Perhaps because TeX isn't OpenOffice?

 but I
 really refuse to install Adobe software in order to be able to start
 installation for LaTeX.
 And then to even have to join a mailinglist for just this 1 question.

Nobody claims that you've to join a mailinglist. You could post your 
question in comp.text.tex  as well.

 Geez. Sorry to have to say this, but some software developers clearly
 have their heads up their asses.

Well, you've got a complete software-distribution free of charge and 
furthermore you demand support for it. Do you think its the right way 
abusing the developers?
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Re: [protext] PDF demands

2008-03-19 Thread Klaus Hoeppner
Karl Berry schrieb:
 Start FoxIt and open install\protext-install-en.pdf - i've got some 
 
 If FoxIt (http://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/) works, we should
 adjust the docs to say so.

Foxit is great since it's small and runnable without prior installation, 
but the last time I tried it, it didn't support starting external 
applications.

Klaus
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Re: [protext] PDF demands

2008-03-19 Thread Karl Berry
It's bad enough that its footprint is the size of an entire CD (why,

If you install everything, it's big, of course.  The minimal subset to
run LaTeX is comparable to OpenOffice (smaller, I think; I haven't
checked recently).

proTeXt is intended to be simple to install.  Evidently you want more
flexibility, so as Thomas said, you should install from miktex.org and
forget protext.  We should make this clearer in various places, so
thanks for the implicit bug report :).

And then to even have to join a mailinglist for just this 1 question.

You can post to this mailing list (and all TUG mailing lists) without
subscribing to it.  If there is somewhere that says you have to
subscribe first, pleasr tell me.

karl
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