[jira] [Commented] (PROTON-35) Convert to a maven multi-module build

2012-09-27 Thread Joseph Ottinger (JIRA)

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Joseph Ottinger commented on PROTON-35:
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But make... makes the whole CI bit less easy as well. Maven still wins there. 
It's doable with make, it's doable with ant, rake, buildr, gradle, etc., but 
maven is idiomatic and everywhere. :)

 Convert to a maven multi-module build
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 Key: PROTON-35
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PROTON-35
 Project: Qpid Proton
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: proton-j
Reporter: Hiram Chirino
Priority: Minor
 Attachments: PROTON-35.patch


 Having a multi-module build just means having a pom.xml at the root of the 
 project.  This way it will be easier to add additional optional modules in 
 the future and setup CI builds of the java bits.

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[jira] [Commented] (PROTON-35) Convert to a maven multi-module build

2012-09-27 Thread Hiram Chirino (JIRA)

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Hiram Chirino commented on PROTON-35:
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I wouldn't go that far as to suggest we use maven to build C.  I'd rather keep 
things simple, and let maven build what it's best a building.. and use make to 
build what it's best a building.  I think it's kinda crazy to force one or the 
other.

 Convert to a maven multi-module build
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 Key: PROTON-35
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PROTON-35
 Project: Qpid Proton
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: proton-j
Reporter: Hiram Chirino
Priority: Minor
 Attachments: PROTON-35.patch


 Having a multi-module build just means having a pom.xml at the root of the 
 project.  This way it will be easier to add additional optional modules in 
 the future and setup CI builds of the java bits.

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[jira] [Commented] (PROTON-35) Convert to a maven multi-module build

2012-09-27 Thread Rafael H. Schloming (JIRA)

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Rafael H. Schloming commented on PROTON-35:
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I agree with Hiram on the C front. In fact I think, given the project goals, 
that building C with maven is really a non starter from *both* the proton-j and 
proton-c angle. In the C world Maven is definitely not considered idomatic, and 
there are many places the C implementation will need to reach where a Java 
build dependency would be a blocker (e.g. linux kernel). In the Java world I 
can't imagine a Maven build with a C dependency would be the most popular thing 
either. Given that we want maximum adoption, reach, and ubiquity on both 
fronts, I think it would be very counter productive to try to build C with 
maven or Java with cmake.

Regarding the patch, I think there are a few points from IRC worth bringing up 
here. As I understand it the motivation of this has to do with maven's ability 
to automatically perform release management tasks, i.e. it needs to be in a 
particular place in the SVN tree hierarchy relative to where the trunk part 
is. That said it's a bit of a kludge given that the top level directory is 
really composed of independent components, e.g. proton-j, proton-c, and the 
tests directory can all be checked out and used standalone which is I think 
important for the idomaticness/adoption of each sub portion. I'm also concerned 
that from the perspective of the people navigating the directory looking for 
the C code (or the javascript code when that arrives) that a top level pom.xml 
would be a big misdirection.

Are there other options here we could consider that would make maven happy? 
Hiram pointed out on IRC that moving the trunk up a level would facilitate 
independent releases of proton-j and proton-c and would eliminate the desire 
for this extra pom.xml since the source tree would match maven's conventions, 
however I'm not sure we're ready to say whether or not we're doing independent 
releases yet and I don't particularly relish the idea of moving everything 
around, and if we are going to move stuff I'd rather go to git anyways. Would a 
git repo change the situation at all since we would not be forced to choose the 
point at which we put the giant trunk in the middle of our directory path, or 
would maven's conventions still balk at multiple independent builds sharing a 
single repo?

 Convert to a maven multi-module build
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 Key: PROTON-35
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PROTON-35
 Project: Qpid Proton
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: proton-j
Reporter: Hiram Chirino
Priority: Minor
 Attachments: PROTON-35.patch


 Having a multi-module build just means having a pom.xml at the root of the 
 project.  This way it will be easier to add additional optional modules in 
 the future and setup CI builds of the java bits.

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