Re: Contrib under proton-c?
+1 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote: We've added a contrib directory under proton-j. Does anyone object to putting one in the proton-c directory as well? -Ted -- ** *Hiram Chirino* *Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.* *hchir...@redhat.com hchir...@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com* *skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirinohttp://twitter.com/hiramchirino * *blog: Hiram Chirino's Bit Mojo http://hiramchirino.com/blog/*
Re: Contrib under proton-c?
I would imagine it's for handy, non-core library bits. That proton-dump guy would seem like a prime candidate to move in there. On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 8:35 AM, William Henry whe...@redhat.com wrote: I too would like to understand what the contrib dirs under proton are for. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Rafael Schloming r...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Do you have something in mind to put there? --Rafael On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote: We've added a contrib directory under proton-j. Does anyone object to putting one in the proton-c directory as well? -Ted -- ** *Hiram Chirino* *Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.* *hchir...@redhat.com hchir...@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com* *skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirinohttp://twitter.com/hiramchirino * *blog: Hiram Chirino's Bit Mojo http://hiramchirino.com/blog/*
Re: Contrib under proton-c?
William, I see them as places to put new contributions so they can be developed and evaluated while they look for a more permanent home. -Ted On 12/18/2012 08:35 AM, William Henry wrote: I too would like to understand what the contrib dirs under proton are for. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Rafael Schloming r...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Do you have something in mind to put there? --Rafael On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote: We've added a contrib directory under proton-j. Does anyone object to putting one in the proton-c directory as well? -Ted
Re: Contrib under proton-c?
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 09:43:05AM -0500, Ted Ross wrote: Yes, but the content I'm talking about is just libraries (and headers). Actual applications like routers, proxies, brokers, etc. would live in Qpid. I can put these libraries in qpid/extras just as easily. That's why I'm asking the question. Are they artifacts that will ship _with_ Proton once they've baked? -- Darryl L. Pierce, Sr. Software Engineer @ Red Hat, Inc. Delivering value year after year. Red Hat ranks #1 in value among software vendors. http://www.redhat.com/promo/vendor/ pgp7p2O5t8nbk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Contrib under proton-c?
On 12/18/2012 02:06 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: The proton-j/contrib directory was created to hold glue/integration with established third-party libraries/apis (specifically jms and hawtdispatch). The fact that hawtdispatch and jms don't want a proton dependency, and proton doesn't want a jms or hawtdispatch dependency kind of forces the glue/integration to sit somewhere separate from each, and since it is kind of silly to have an entirely separate project just for that glue/integration code, creating a proton-j/contrib made sense. I wouldn't be opposed to a proton-c/contrib for similar purposes, however what you're describing sounds different. I'm assuming these libraries have no issue depending on proton, which makes this use of contrib a kind of incubation, which begs the question, what is the intent for this stuff once it's hatched? Is the idea to provide another layer to the proton library itself, or to provide something that is really an independent library with a different focus? If the former is the case then I think we should probably be taking a careful look at the proposed APIs and understanding in detail what they are and how they build on what is already there (i.e. not just shoehorn it into contrib), and in the latter case I would say we should keep incubation to qpid proper. I expect that in both cases, the proposed APIs will be looked at in detail so that their place in the world can be well understood. Thanks for all the input. I think I'll incubate them in qpid/extras. If we decide they should live in Proton, we can always move them. They will either move somewhere or die from neglect. -Ted
