Re: [Proto-Scripty] can Request be used to track navigation clicks asynchronously?
Hi Mark,
Just discussing this with a collogue and we came up with another idea,
still using asynch AJAX, but place it in the receiving page, then all
the calling page has to do is place the appropriate click event into a
cookie that is persisted across the page transfer. The new page then
checks to see if the cookie is present and immediately (probably as part
of the onload) fires the asynch AJAX, and deletes the cookie.
Just a thought.
Regards.
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Mark Palmer wrote:
Thanks for the thoughtful suggestions...
@djmangus - I already have this working synchronously, but I'm trying
to do a/b testing on things like pricing and conversion rates, and the
extra delay does affect abandonment rates, especially over slow/dialup
connections.
Jeff C - I've looked at google analytics,which did add support for
true async tracking.
GA seems too heavy-weight for what I want to do, at least in the sense
that there's a significant learning curve.
more specifically, what I tried doing was this, in the tracking function
function track (tolink,xparams)
{
new Ajax.Request (
serverurl,
{
method: 'get',
parameters: xparms,
onLoaded: function(ok) { location.href = tolink; }
}
);
}
The above triggers the actual navigation in the completion callback.
If I use onLoaded, it behaves synchronously and will wait for the
server to reply.
If I use onLoading, the data doesn't get sent at all..
From the docs, I'd expect onLoaded to do the trick as it gets called
|onLoaded| (maps on Request sent)
What I need is something like this, which will trigger the navigation
after the data is sent but not wait for the server to respond...
thanks
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Jeff C car...@gmail.com
mailto:car...@gmail.com wrote:
@DJ Mangus: That would have been my simple solution too. Capture the
click event, do my ajax mojo, and then forward them. But like you
mentioned, it will most likely affect the user experience.
@manfmnantucket: Have you ever thought about using google analytics?
It offers the generic visitor info (how many visits, from where,
keywords, etc). But they also have event tracking[1][2]. Once the page
is loaded you can track simple events. For example, when a user stars
and stops a flash movie. I use it to track when someone rates a
picture in my photo gallery, track what icons are clicked on my google
maps, and track all the clicks on outgoing links from my site. It has
been very useful so far.
Just a thought.
[1]
http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/docs/tracking/eventTrackerGuide.html
[2]
http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/docs/tracking/eventTrackerWrappers.html
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 3:27 AM, DJ Mangus d.man...@gmail.com
mailto:d.man...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't see why not though it'd slow down the user experience a
bit (not
necessarily a good thing).
Have the onclick block, send data to server, server responds,
then in
the Ajax callback send user to the destination via window.location
Note: I haven't done this, it's just an off the top of my head
suggestion.
Sent from my phone so please pardon any spelling errors.
On Feb 15, 2010, at 8:28 PM, manfmnantucket
manfmnantuc...@gmail.com mailto:manfmnantuc...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all,
I'm trying to use Prototype to do asynchronous
click-tracking... that
is, to
log a server record each time a user clicks a link to navigate to
another page.
I've set the link onclick up to call a simple function which
makes an
Ajax.Request to send the data
without blocking.
However usually the server never gets the data, I think because the
current page Unloads before
Request can complete.
What's the correct way to accomplish this? Is there a way to
make page
Unload wait until the
Request is sent (but not until the server responds)??
thanks!
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Re: [Proto-Scripty] can Request be used to track navigation clicks asynchronously?
Don't see why not though it'd slow down the user experience a bit (not necessarily a good thing). Have the onclick block, send data to server, server responds, then in the Ajax callback send user to the destination via window.location Note: I haven't done this, it's just an off the top of my head suggestion. Sent from my phone so please pardon any spelling errors. On Feb 15, 2010, at 8:28 PM, manfmnantucket manfmnantuc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to use Prototype to do asynchronous click-tracking... that is, to log a server record each time a user clicks a link to navigate to another page. I've set the link onclick up to call a simple function which makes an Ajax.Request to send the data without blocking. However usually the server never gets the data, I think because the current page Unloads before Request can complete. What's the correct way to accomplish this? Is there a way to make page Unload wait until the Request is sent (but not until the server responds)?? thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
Re: [Proto-Scripty] can Request be used to track navigation clicks asynchronously?
@DJ Mangus: That would have been my simple solution too. Capture the click event, do my ajax mojo, and then forward them. But like you mentioned, it will most likely affect the user experience. @manfmnantucket: Have you ever thought about using google analytics? It offers the generic visitor info (how many visits, from where, keywords, etc). But they also have event tracking[1][2]. Once the page is loaded you can track simple events. For example, when a user stars and stops a flash movie. I use it to track when someone rates a picture in my photo gallery, track what icons are clicked on my google maps, and track all the clicks on outgoing links from my site. It has been very useful so far. Just a thought. [1] http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/docs/tracking/eventTrackerGuide.html [2] http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/docs/tracking/eventTrackerWrappers.html - J e f f C o n k l i n - - AOL IM - a14piece - http://www.getoutsidenj.com - http://www.carabs.com - J e f f C o n k l i n - - AOL IM - a14piece - http://www.getoutsidenj.com - http://www.carabs.com On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 3:27 AM, DJ Mangus d.man...@gmail.com wrote: Don't see why not though it'd slow down the user experience a bit (not necessarily a good thing). Have the onclick block, send data to server, server responds, then in the Ajax callback send user to the destination via window.location Note: I haven't done this, it's just an off the top of my head suggestion. Sent from my phone so please pardon any spelling errors. On Feb 15, 2010, at 8:28 PM, manfmnantucket manfmnantuc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to use Prototype to do asynchronous click-tracking... that is, to log a server record each time a user clicks a link to navigate to another page. I've set the link onclick up to call a simple function which makes an Ajax.Request to send the data without blocking. However usually the server never gets the data, I think because the current page Unloads before Request can complete. What's the correct way to accomplish this? Is there a way to make page Unload wait until the Request is sent (but not until the server responds)?? thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
Re: [Proto-Scripty] can Request be used to track navigation clicks asynchronously?
Thanks for the thoughtful suggestions...
@djmangus - I already have this working synchronously, but I'm trying to do
a/b testing on things like pricing and conversion rates, and the extra delay
does affect abandonment rates, especially over slow/dialup connections.
Jeff C - I've looked at google analytics,which did add support for true
async tracking.
GA seems too heavy-weight for what I want to do, at least in the sense that
there's a significant learning curve.
more specifically, what I tried doing was this, in the tracking function
function track (tolink,xparams)
{
new Ajax.Request (
serverurl,
{
method: 'get',
parameters: xparms,
onLoaded: function(ok) { location.href = tolink; }
}
);
}
The above triggers the actual navigation in the completion callback.
If I use onLoaded, it behaves synchronously and will wait for the server to
reply.
If I use onLoading, the data doesn't get sent at all..
From the docs, I'd expect onLoaded to do the trick as it gets called
onLoaded (maps on Request sent)
What I need is something like this, which will trigger the navigation after
the data is sent but not wait for the server to respond...
thanks
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Jeff C car...@gmail.com wrote:
@DJ Mangus: That would have been my simple solution too. Capture the
click event, do my ajax mojo, and then forward them. But like you
mentioned, it will most likely affect the user experience.
@manfmnantucket: Have you ever thought about using google analytics?
It offers the generic visitor info (how many visits, from where,
keywords, etc). But they also have event tracking[1][2]. Once the page
is loaded you can track simple events. For example, when a user stars
and stops a flash movie. I use it to track when someone rates a
picture in my photo gallery, track what icons are clicked on my google
maps, and track all the clicks on outgoing links from my site. It has
been very useful so far.
Just a thought.
[1]
http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/docs/tracking/eventTrackerGuide.html
[2]
http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/docs/tracking/eventTrackerWrappers.html
- J e f f C o n k l i n -
- AOL IM - a14piece
- http://www.getoutsidenj.com
- http://www.carabs.com
- J e f f C o n k l i n -
- AOL IM - a14piece
- http://www.getoutsidenj.com
- http://www.carabs.com
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 3:27 AM, DJ Mangus d.man...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't see why not though it'd slow down the user experience a bit (not
necessarily a good thing).
Have the onclick block, send data to server, server responds, then in
the Ajax callback send user to the destination via window.location
Note: I haven't done this, it's just an off the top of my head
suggestion.
Sent from my phone so please pardon any spelling errors.
On Feb 15, 2010, at 8:28 PM, manfmnantucket manfmnantuc...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all,
I'm trying to use Prototype to do asynchronous click-tracking... that
is, to
log a server record each time a user clicks a link to navigate to
another page.
I've set the link onclick up to call a simple function which makes an
Ajax.Request to send the data
without blocking.
However usually the server never gets the data, I think because the
current page Unloads before
Request can complete.
What's the correct way to accomplish this? Is there a way to make page
Unload wait until the
Request is sent (but not until the server responds)??
thanks!
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