Re: Function Keys With Touch Bar: Changed From good USB type C audio interface that is accessible as I need to buy a new mac

2018-11-30 Thread Byron Harden
Yes sir; do I need any additional software to test. 

> On Nov 29, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Chi Kim  wrote:
> 
> Steve and Byron, thank you for confirming it. Just making sure I'm not 
> missing a setting.
> 
> Actually I don't own a touch bar, but I work with students who do.
> 
> I made a program that will let you type f1-f12 and numpad keys using fn key.
> 
> fn+1,2,34 ( on number row) to f1, 2, 3, 4
> 
> fn+q,w,e,r to f5,6,7,8
> 
> fn+a,s,d,f to f9,10,11,12
> 
> fn+7,8,9 to numpad 7,8,9
> 
> fn+u,i,o to numpad 4,5,6
> 
> fn+j,k,l to numpad 1,2,3
> 
> And so on...
> 
> Anyone interested in testing it?
> 
> 
> Chi
> 
> On 11/25/2018 1:46 AM, Steve Martin wrote:
>> Actually you may be right on that one, but you can iswitch it so that the 
>> TouchBar displays the function keys by default so you don’t have to press FN 
>> to get to them. That being said 1 through 4 is right above the numbers on 
>> the number row so I pretty much developed muscle memory to hit those and 
>> escape
>> 5 and up seem to be offset by one  so if you are a touch typist the finger 
>> you would normally use to hit 6 will hit 5 on the function row.  Hopefully 
>> that will make it slightly less annoying. Though given how much pro tools 
>> rely on the NumPad I am surprised you are using the laptops keyboard with PT 
>> enough.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2018, at 11:25 PM, Chi Kim  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please correct me if I' wrong. There might be a setting to change this
>>> behavior that I'm not aware of.
>>> 
>>> I think you can only use fn+1,2,3,etc (on the number row) only for
>>> VoiceOver function.
>>> 
>>> In other words, you can press fn+vo+2 (on the number row) to read the
>>> title of current window, but you can't press fn+2 (on the number row) to
>>> toggle slip mode in Pro Tools. You have to press fn key then find f2 key
>>> from the touch bar.
>>> 
>>> Please tell me I'm wrong, because this is very annoying.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/20/2018 5:05 PM, Steve Martin wrote:
 The 15” MacBook pros only have the touch bar, however when using voiceover 
 you can press the FN key to use the normal number keys as Function keys. 
 Also VO+ the minus and plus keys will turn system volume up and down so 
 you don’t have to mess with the touch bar to use those either.
 
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:47 PM, Nick Gawronski  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, The Digital 003 uses Firewire ports and I have not managed to locate
> an adapter that ports Firewire to USB type C plugs.  Do most USB
> interfaces work well with an USB type C adapter cable and do any of the 15
> inch Mac laptops have the function keys or just the touch bars?  I want to
> minimize the amount of things I have to connect to the system for editing
> but if I needed to still use the Apple keyboard with the number pad I
> could do that.  Nick Gawronski
> On Tue, November 20, 2018 3:36 pm, Steve Martin wrote:
>> Personally I’d opt for the 15” pro over the 13” pro laptop. The 15” pros
>> has the advantage of quad or 6 pro processors and discrete graphics. That
>> being said, There are very few actual USB-C interfaces on the market most
>> of the USB-C interfaces are really just USB 2 interfaces with a USB-C
>> cable to connect easily to the new computers. Given that you have a 003,
>> and if pro tools is still your main DAW why not get the appropriate
>> dongles so you can continue using the 003. Otherwise I’d advise a
>> Thunderbolt interface wit along with the thunderbolt to Thunderbolt 3
>> dongle. The only company I can think of off hand that actually makes a
>> thunderbolt 3 interface is the Universal Audio Apollo. Which is a 2 in 2
>> out interface with two mic/line combo jacks for the inputs. So since
>> there is no actual USB-C interfaces and thunderbolt interfaces still
>> require a dongle with newer USB-c/Thuderbolt 3 computers I’d probably
>> hold off a little bit longer unless you really want to get rid of your
>> 003.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:20 PM, Nick Gawronski 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi, I was holding off buying a new audio interface until I can get a
>>> new mac with the USB type C ports and am looking at the 13 inch with
>>> function keys and the highest ram and SSD storage.  For my inputs I
>>> would like at least 4 if not more and I would like the jacks to be
>>> combo XLR and quarter inch line in jacks.  I have been reading some
>>> mixed reviews on the new macs and see some good and not so good ones
>>> written.  As I also own a windows system and am not going to make my
>>> mac run both accessibility on windows 10 would be great for when I want
>>> to record on my windows system in good quality.  I am not into brands
>>> but good quality and if Pro Tools can run most of the interface like
>>> not using the built in 

Re: Function Keys With Touch Bar: Changed From good USB type C audio interface that is accessible as I need to buy a new mac

2018-11-29 Thread Chi Kim
Steve and Byron, thank you for confirming it. Just making sure I'm not 
missing a setting.

Actually I don't own a touch bar, but I work with students who do.

I made a program that will let you type f1-f12 and numpad keys using fn key.

fn+1,2,34 ( on number row) to f1, 2, 3, 4

fn+q,w,e,r to f5,6,7,8

fn+a,s,d,f to f9,10,11,12

fn+7,8,9 to numpad 7,8,9

fn+u,i,o to numpad 4,5,6

fn+j,k,l to numpad 1,2,3

And so on...

Anyone interested in testing it?


Chi

On 11/25/2018 1:46 AM, Steve Martin wrote:
> Actually you may be right on that one, but you can iswitch it so that the 
> TouchBar displays the function keys by default so you don’t have to press FN 
> to get to them. That being said 1 through 4 is right above the numbers on the 
> number row so I pretty much developed muscle memory to hit those and escape
> 5 and up seem to be offset by one  so if you are a touch typist the finger 
> you would normally use to hit 6 will hit 5 on the function row.  Hopefully 
> that will make it slightly less annoying. Though given how much pro tools 
> rely on the NumPad I am surprised you are using the laptops keyboard with PT 
> enough.
>
>
>> On Nov 24, 2018, at 11:25 PM, Chi Kim  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> Please correct me if I' wrong. There might be a setting to change this
>> behavior that I'm not aware of.
>>
>> I think you can only use fn+1,2,3,etc (on the number row) only for
>> VoiceOver function.
>>
>> In other words, you can press fn+vo+2 (on the number row) to read the
>> title of current window, but you can't press fn+2 (on the number row) to
>> toggle slip mode in Pro Tools. You have to press fn key then find f2 key
>> from the touch bar.
>>
>> Please tell me I'm wrong, because this is very annoying.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Chi
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/20/2018 5:05 PM, Steve Martin wrote:
>>> The 15” MacBook pros only have the touch bar, however when using voiceover 
>>> you can press the FN key to use the normal number keys as Function keys. 
>>> Also VO+ the minus and plus keys will turn system volume up and down so you 
>>> don’t have to mess with the touch bar to use those either.
>>>
 On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:47 PM, Nick Gawronski  wrote:

 Hi, The Digital 003 uses Firewire ports and I have not managed to locate
 an adapter that ports Firewire to USB type C plugs.  Do most USB
 interfaces work well with an USB type C adapter cable and do any of the 15
 inch Mac laptops have the function keys or just the touch bars?  I want to
 minimize the amount of things I have to connect to the system for editing
 but if I needed to still use the Apple keyboard with the number pad I
 could do that.  Nick Gawronski
 On Tue, November 20, 2018 3:36 pm, Steve Martin wrote:
> Personally I’d opt for the 15” pro over the 13” pro laptop. The 15” pros
> has the advantage of quad or 6 pro processors and discrete graphics. That
> being said, There are very few actual USB-C interfaces on the market most
> of the USB-C interfaces are really just USB 2 interfaces with a USB-C
> cable to connect easily to the new computers. Given that you have a 003,
> and if pro tools is still your main DAW why not get the appropriate
> dongles so you can continue using the 003. Otherwise I’d advise a
> Thunderbolt interface wit along with the thunderbolt to Thunderbolt 3
> dongle. The only company I can think of off hand that actually makes a
> thunderbolt 3 interface is the Universal Audio Apollo. Which is a 2 in 2
> out interface with two mic/line combo jacks for the inputs. So since
> there is no actual USB-C interfaces and thunderbolt interfaces still
> require a dongle with newer USB-c/Thuderbolt 3 computers I’d probably
> hold off a little bit longer unless you really want to get rid of your
> 003.
>
>
>
>
>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:20 PM, Nick Gawronski 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi, I was holding off buying a new audio interface until I can get a
>> new mac with the USB type C ports and am looking at the 13 inch with
>> function keys and the highest ram and SSD storage.  For my inputs I
>> would like at least 4 if not more and I would like the jacks to be
>> combo XLR and quarter inch line in jacks.  I have been reading some
>> mixed reviews on the new macs and see some good and not so good ones
>> written.  As I also own a windows system and am not going to make my
>> mac run both accessibility on windows 10 would be great for when I want
>> to record on my windows system in good quality.  I am not into brands
>> but good quality and if Pro Tools can run most of the interface like
>> not using the built in effects or if they are easy to use I am ok with
>> it.  Any good suggestions on what I should get?  I can probably spend
>> max around $1000 on good quality hardware.  If anyone is interested in
>> my Digi 003 which is in very good condition let me know I just 

Re: Function Keys With Touch Bar: Changed From good USB type C audio interface that is accessible as I need to buy a new mac

2018-11-26 Thread Byron Harden
Yes sir, correct.

> On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:25 PM, Chi Kim  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Please correct me if I' wrong. There might be a setting to change this 
> behavior that I'm not aware of.
> 
> I think you can only use fn+1,2,3,etc (on the number row) only for 
> VoiceOver function.
> 
> In other words, you can press fn+vo+2 (on the number row) to read the 
> title of current window, but you can't press fn+2 (on the number row) to 
> toggle slip mode in Pro Tools. You have to press fn key then find f2 key 
> from the touch bar.
> 
> Please tell me I'm wrong, because this is very annoying.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Chi
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/20/2018 5:05 PM, Steve Martin wrote:
>> The 15” MacBook pros only have the touch bar, however when using voiceover 
>> you can press the FN key to use the normal number keys as Function keys. 
>> Also VO+ the minus and plus keys will turn system volume up and down so you 
>> don’t have to mess with the touch bar to use those either.
>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:47 PM, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, The Digital 003 uses Firewire ports and I have not managed to locate
>>> an adapter that ports Firewire to USB type C plugs.  Do most USB
>>> interfaces work well with an USB type C adapter cable and do any of the 15
>>> inch Mac laptops have the function keys or just the touch bars?  I want to
>>> minimize the amount of things I have to connect to the system for editing
>>> but if I needed to still use the Apple keyboard with the number pad I
>>> could do that.  Nick Gawronski
>>> On Tue, November 20, 2018 3:36 pm, Steve Martin wrote:
 Personally I’d opt for the 15” pro over the 13” pro laptop. The 15” pros
 has the advantage of quad or 6 pro processors and discrete graphics. That
 being said, There are very few actual USB-C interfaces on the market most
 of the USB-C interfaces are really just USB 2 interfaces with a USB-C
 cable to connect easily to the new computers. Given that you have a 003,
 and if pro tools is still your main DAW why not get the appropriate
 dongles so you can continue using the 003. Otherwise I’d advise a
 Thunderbolt interface wit along with the thunderbolt to Thunderbolt 3
 dongle. The only company I can think of off hand that actually makes a
 thunderbolt 3 interface is the Universal Audio Apollo. Which is a 2 in 2
 out interface with two mic/line combo jacks for the inputs. So since
 there is no actual USB-C interfaces and thunderbolt interfaces still
 require a dongle with newer USB-c/Thuderbolt 3 computers I’d probably
 hold off a little bit longer unless you really want to get rid of your
 003.
 
 
 
 
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:20 PM, Nick Gawronski 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I was holding off buying a new audio interface until I can get a
> new mac with the USB type C ports and am looking at the 13 inch with
> function keys and the highest ram and SSD storage.  For my inputs I
> would like at least 4 if not more and I would like the jacks to be
> combo XLR and quarter inch line in jacks.  I have been reading some
> mixed reviews on the new macs and see some good and not so good ones
> written.  As I also own a windows system and am not going to make my
> mac run both accessibility on windows 10 would be great for when I want
> to record on my windows system in good quality.  I am not into brands
> but good quality and if Pro Tools can run most of the interface like
> not using the built in effects or if they are easy to use I am ok with
> it.  Any good suggestions on what I should get?  I can probably spend
> max around $1000 on good quality hardware.  If anyone is interested in
> my Digi 003 which is in very good condition let me know I just want to
> upgrade now.  Nick Gawronski
> 
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Re: Function Keys With Touch Bar: Changed From good USB type C audio interface that is accessible as I need to buy a new mac

2018-11-24 Thread Steve Martin
Actually you may be right on that one, but you can iswitch it so that the 
TouchBar displays the function keys by default so you don’t have to press FN to 
get to them. That being said 1 through 4 is right above the numbers on the 
number row so I pretty much developed muscle memory to hit those and escape 
5 and up seem to be offset by one  so if you are a touch typist the finger you 
would normally use to hit 6 will hit 5 on the function row.  Hopefully that 
will make it slightly less annoying. Though given how much pro tools rely on 
the NumPad I am surprised you are using the laptops keyboard with PT enough. 


> On Nov 24, 2018, at 11:25 PM, Chi Kim  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Please correct me if I' wrong. There might be a setting to change this 
> behavior that I'm not aware of.
> 
> I think you can only use fn+1,2,3,etc (on the number row) only for 
> VoiceOver function.
> 
> In other words, you can press fn+vo+2 (on the number row) to read the 
> title of current window, but you can't press fn+2 (on the number row) to 
> toggle slip mode in Pro Tools. You have to press fn key then find f2 key 
> from the touch bar.
> 
> Please tell me I'm wrong, because this is very annoying.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Chi
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/20/2018 5:05 PM, Steve Martin wrote:
>> The 15” MacBook pros only have the touch bar, however when using voiceover 
>> you can press the FN key to use the normal number keys as Function keys. 
>> Also VO+ the minus and plus keys will turn system volume up and down so you 
>> don’t have to mess with the touch bar to use those either.
>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:47 PM, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, The Digital 003 uses Firewire ports and I have not managed to locate
>>> an adapter that ports Firewire to USB type C plugs.  Do most USB
>>> interfaces work well with an USB type C adapter cable and do any of the 15
>>> inch Mac laptops have the function keys or just the touch bars?  I want to
>>> minimize the amount of things I have to connect to the system for editing
>>> but if I needed to still use the Apple keyboard with the number pad I
>>> could do that.  Nick Gawronski
>>> On Tue, November 20, 2018 3:36 pm, Steve Martin wrote:
 Personally I’d opt for the 15” pro over the 13” pro laptop. The 15” pros
 has the advantage of quad or 6 pro processors and discrete graphics. That
 being said, There are very few actual USB-C interfaces on the market most
 of the USB-C interfaces are really just USB 2 interfaces with a USB-C
 cable to connect easily to the new computers. Given that you have a 003,
 and if pro tools is still your main DAW why not get the appropriate
 dongles so you can continue using the 003. Otherwise I’d advise a
 Thunderbolt interface wit along with the thunderbolt to Thunderbolt 3
 dongle. The only company I can think of off hand that actually makes a
 thunderbolt 3 interface is the Universal Audio Apollo. Which is a 2 in 2
 out interface with two mic/line combo jacks for the inputs. So since
 there is no actual USB-C interfaces and thunderbolt interfaces still
 require a dongle with newer USB-c/Thuderbolt 3 computers I’d probably
 hold off a little bit longer unless you really want to get rid of your
 003.
 
 
 
 
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:20 PM, Nick Gawronski 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I was holding off buying a new audio interface until I can get a
> new mac with the USB type C ports and am looking at the 13 inch with
> function keys and the highest ram and SSD storage.  For my inputs I
> would like at least 4 if not more and I would like the jacks to be
> combo XLR and quarter inch line in jacks.  I have been reading some
> mixed reviews on the new macs and see some good and not so good ones
> written.  As I also own a windows system and am not going to make my
> mac run both accessibility on windows 10 would be great for when I want
> to record on my windows system in good quality.  I am not into brands
> but good quality and if Pro Tools can run most of the interface like
> not using the built in effects or if they are easy to use I am ok with
> it.  Any good suggestions on what I should get?  I can probably spend
> max around $1000 on good quality hardware.  If anyone is interested in
> my Digi 003 which is in very good condition let me know I just want to
> upgrade now.  Nick Gawronski
> 
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Re: Function Keys With Touch Bar: Changed From good USB type C audio interface that is accessible as I need to buy a new mac

2018-11-24 Thread Chi Kim
Hi,


Please correct me if I' wrong. There might be a setting to change this 
behavior that I'm not aware of.

I think you can only use fn+1,2,3,etc (on the number row) only for 
VoiceOver function.

In other words, you can press fn+vo+2 (on the number row) to read the 
title of current window, but you can't press fn+2 (on the number row) to 
toggle slip mode in Pro Tools. You have to press fn key then find f2 key 
from the touch bar.

Please tell me I'm wrong, because this is very annoying.

Thanks,


Chi



On 11/20/2018 5:05 PM, Steve Martin wrote:
> The 15” MacBook pros only have the touch bar, however when using voiceover 
> you can press the FN key to use the normal number keys as Function keys. Also 
> VO+ the minus and plus keys will turn system volume up and down so you don’t 
> have to mess with the touch bar to use those either.
>
>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:47 PM, Nick Gawronski  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, The Digital 003 uses Firewire ports and I have not managed to locate
>> an adapter that ports Firewire to USB type C plugs.  Do most USB
>> interfaces work well with an USB type C adapter cable and do any of the 15
>> inch Mac laptops have the function keys or just the touch bars?  I want to
>> minimize the amount of things I have to connect to the system for editing
>> but if I needed to still use the Apple keyboard with the number pad I
>> could do that.  Nick Gawronski
>> On Tue, November 20, 2018 3:36 pm, Steve Martin wrote:
>>> Personally I’d opt for the 15” pro over the 13” pro laptop. The 15” pros
>>> has the advantage of quad or 6 pro processors and discrete graphics. That
>>> being said, There are very few actual USB-C interfaces on the market most
>>> of the USB-C interfaces are really just USB 2 interfaces with a USB-C
>>> cable to connect easily to the new computers. Given that you have a 003,
>>> and if pro tools is still your main DAW why not get the appropriate
>>> dongles so you can continue using the 003. Otherwise I’d advise a
>>> Thunderbolt interface wit along with the thunderbolt to Thunderbolt 3
>>> dongle. The only company I can think of off hand that actually makes a
>>> thunderbolt 3 interface is the Universal Audio Apollo. Which is a 2 in 2
>>> out interface with two mic/line combo jacks for the inputs. So since
>>> there is no actual USB-C interfaces and thunderbolt interfaces still
>>> require a dongle with newer USB-c/Thuderbolt 3 computers I’d probably
>>> hold off a little bit longer unless you really want to get rid of your
>>> 003.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:20 PM, Nick Gawronski 
 wrote:


 Hi, I was holding off buying a new audio interface until I can get a
 new mac with the USB type C ports and am looking at the 13 inch with
 function keys and the highest ram and SSD storage.  For my inputs I
 would like at least 4 if not more and I would like the jacks to be
 combo XLR and quarter inch line in jacks.  I have been reading some
 mixed reviews on the new macs and see some good and not so good ones
 written.  As I also own a windows system and am not going to make my
 mac run both accessibility on windows 10 would be great for when I want
 to record on my windows system in good quality.  I am not into brands
 but good quality and if Pro Tools can run most of the interface like
 not using the built in effects or if they are easy to use I am ok with
 it.  Any good suggestions on what I should get?  I can probably spend
 max around $1000 on good quality hardware.  If anyone is interested in
 my Digi 003 which is in very good condition let me know I just want to
 upgrade now.  Nick Gawronski

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