Need to delay execution by 1 clk...

2003-11-27 Thread Kiran SB
Hi
I am new to ptolemy (6 months).
Currently I am using PTII 3.0.2 for building(simulating) custom actors in the
DE domain, which are basically executional elements (of a reconfigurable 
device).

In one particular situation I have an actor with 8 stages of execution.
During initialize I construct a Execution(Data) flow graph depending on the
selector settings in the actor.
I traverse through the graph and execute each stage in it during fire.
Now at one stage I need to create a delay of 1 clock.
The executional unit needs to sleep for a clock and proceed to the next stage.
Basically I need to forward time by a clock.
setCurrentTime (currentTime+1) might not be a good idea as it might cause
problems to the token's timestamp.
What is to be achieved is that the currentTime after this stage should be
t+1(say we started at t).
I don't know if I can use DEEventQueue in any way for this purpose.
Maybe its a wrong or a repeat question!
I have searched all group messages and couldn't find anybody with such a
requirement.
Can somebody help me out with this problem?

- kiran
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Re: Need to delay execution by 1 clk...

2003-12-02 Thread Edward A Lee
Will the TimedDelay actor do what you need?

Edward Lee

At 04:06 PM 11/27/2003 +0500, Kiran SB wrote:
Hi
I am new to ptolemy (6 months).
Currently I am using PTII 3.0.2 for building(simulating) custom actors in the
DE domain, which are basically executional elements (of a reconfigurable
device).
In one particular situation I have an actor with 8 stages of execution.
During initialize I construct a Execution(Data) flow graph depending on the
selector settings in the actor.
I traverse through the graph and execute each stage in it during fire.
Now at one stage I need to create a delay of 1 clock.
The executional unit needs to sleep for a clock and proceed to the next stage.
Basically I need to forward time by a clock.
setCurrentTime (currentTime+1) might not be a good idea as it might cause
problems to the token's timestamp.
What is to be achieved is that the currentTime after this stage should be
t+1(say we started at t).
I don't know if I can use DEEventQueue in any way for this purpose.
Maybe its a wrong or a repeat question!
I have searched all group messages and couldn't find anybody with such a
requirement.
Can somebody help me out with this problem?
- kiran
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Re: Need to delay execution by 1 clk...

2003-12-03 Thread Kiran SB
Thanks for the response...

TimedDelay just sends out a token after a specified delay (send (token, delay)).
what I am looking at is to stop(delay) the execution by a clock and proceed.
I could have used TimedDelay if I had to delay in a particular simulation.
But I need to delay inside an actor and not while sending out the Token.
Just somehow hold the execution for one clock. Its a flipflop kind of a device
which needs to hold the data for 1 clock and then give it out to the next stage of
execution.

- kiran


- Original Message -
From: "Edward A Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:23:31 -0800
To: "Kiran SB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need to delay execution by 1 clk...

> 
> Will the TimedDelay actor do what you need?
> 
> Edward Lee
> 
> At 04:06 PM 11/27/2003 +0500, Kiran SB wrote:
> >Hi
> >I am new to ptolemy (6 months).
> >Currently I am using PTII 3.0.2 for building(simulating) custom actors in the
> >DE domain, which are basically executional elements (of a reconfigurable
> >device).
> >
> >In one particular situation I have an actor with 8 stages of execution.
> >During initialize I construct a Execution(Data) flow graph depending on the
> >selector settings in the actor.
> >I traverse through the graph and execute each stage in it during fire.
> >Now at one stage I need to create a delay of 1 clock.
> >The executional unit needs to sleep for a clock and proceed to the next stage.
> >Basically I need to forward time by a clock.
> >setCurrentTime (currentTime+1) might not be a good idea as it might cause
> >problems to the token's timestamp.
> >What is to be achieved is that the currentTime after this stage should be
> >t+1(say we started at t).
> >I don't know if I can use DEEventQueue in any way for this purpose.
> >Maybe its a wrong or a repeat question!
> >I have searched all group messages and couldn't find anybody with such a
> >requirement.
> >Can somebody help me out with this problem?
> >
> >- kiran
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Re: Need to delay execution by 1 clk...

2003-12-03 Thread Edward A Lee
Hmm... Your problem statement is still ambiguous.

If you want the delay to be a real-time delay, then you can set
the synchronizeToRealTime parameter of the DEDirector.
If what you need is the effect of a latch, then you want
to combine the TimedDelay with the Previous actor (in the
domain-specific/DE library).
It's also possible that the actor you want is Sleep
(in the real-time library).
Edward

At 06:56 PM 12/3/2003 +0500, Kiran SB wrote:
Thanks for the response...

TimedDelay just sends out a token after a specified delay (send (token, 
delay)).
what I am looking at is to stop(delay) the execution by a clock and proceed.
I could have used TimedDelay if I had to delay in a particular simulation.
But I need to delay inside an actor and not while sending out the Token.
Just somehow hold the execution for one clock. Its a flipflop kind of a device
which needs to hold the data for 1 clock and then give it out to the next 
stage of
execution.

- kiran

- Original Message -
From: "Edward A Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:23:31 -0800
To: "Kiran SB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need to delay execution by 1 clk...
>
> Will the TimedDelay actor do what you need?
>
> Edward Lee
>
> At 04:06 PM 11/27/2003 +0500, Kiran SB wrote:
> >Hi
> >I am new to ptolemy (6 months).
> >Currently I am using PTII 3.0.2 for building(simulating) custom actors 
in the
> >DE domain, which are basically executional elements (of a reconfigurable
> >device).
> >
> >In one particular situation I have an actor with 8 stages of execution.
> >During initialize I construct a Execution(Data) flow graph depending 
on the
> >selector settings in the actor.
> >I traverse through the graph and execute each stage in it during fire.
> >Now at one stage I need to create a delay of 1 clock.
> >The executional unit needs to sleep for a clock and proceed to the 
next stage.
> >Basically I need to forward time by a clock.
> >setCurrentTime (currentTime+1) might not be a good idea as it might cause
> >problems to the token's timestamp.
> >What is to be achieved is that the currentTime after this stage should be
> >t+1(say we started at t).
> >I don't know if I can use DEEventQueue in any way for this purpose.
> >Maybe its a wrong or a repeat question!
> >I have searched all group messages and couldn't find anybody with such a
> >requirement.
> >Can somebody help me out with this problem?
> >
> >- kiran
> >--
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Re: Need to delay execution by 1 clk...

2003-12-04 Thread Mohamed Salem
Hi Kiran and all,

If this actor is constructed as one atomic-actor that models the eight
stages of execution, I would suggest that you re-build it as a composite
actor from eight diffent atmoic-actors (your own models and/or from
library actors).Each atomic actor in this model would be corresponding
to one of the eight stages of execution.

Pipeline your actors; in other words output of (actor1/stage 1) is
connected to input of (actor2/stage2);meanwhile all eight are
synchronous;i.e connected to the same main clock.

The DE director reacts to each positive edge as an event. The
running(execution) of the overall composite actor is a sequene of events
corresponding to each positive edge of the clock.

In this criteria, Consider two consecutive actors (one delivering to
the next) in (execution graph) ; at the positive edge both of them are
Fired such that at this instance(event) T ; (actorX) delivers its output
at time (T-1)to (actorX+1) and it produces simultaneously an output that
to be delivered to (actorX+1)in the next firing event(next positive
edge)at time (T+1).In other words the output token of actorX is reserved
(not changing) in the gap between two consecutive events.

for example :
assume 
actorX output at T-1 = m 
actorX output at T   = n 

(ActorX reserves-stores(flipflop) a value =m for one clock cycle)

Then
 
actor X+1 processes an input = m at time T 
actor X+1 processes an input = n at time T+1 

Conclusion , if I understand your exact problem , this method could
do your job without a delay actor in between actorX and actor X+1. 
Otherwise, insertion of a Timedelay with delay parameter of 1 could
help.

I hope that this would be helpful ...
let me know about results.

THANKS for your time and interest

Best Regards,

Mohamed A.Salem



On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 13:06, Kiran SB wrote:
> Hi
> I am new to ptolemy (6 months).
> Currently I am using PTII 3.0.2 for building(simulating) custom actors in the
> DE domain, which are basically executional elements (of a reconfigurable 
> device).
> 
> In one particular situation I have an actor with 8 stages of execution.
> During initialize I construct a Execution(Data) flow graph depending on the
> selector settings in the actor.
> I traverse through the graph and execute each stage in it during fire.
> Now at one stage I need to create a delay of 1 clock.
> The executional unit needs to sleep for a clock and proceed to the next stage.
> Basically I need to forward time by a clock.
> setCurrentTime (currentTime+1) might not be a good idea as it might cause
> problems to the token's timestamp.
> What is to be achieved is that the currentTime after this stage should be
> t+1(say we started at t).
> I don't know if I can use DEEventQueue in any way for this purpose.
> Maybe its a wrong or a repeat question!
> I have searched all group messages and couldn't find anybody with such a
> requirement.
> Can somebody help me out with this problem?
> 
> - kiran



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Re: Need to delay execution by 1 clk...

2003-12-05 Thread Kiran SB
Hi Mohamed Salem,
I think this would be a nice way to look at it.
It never struck to me!
I can always split this actor into 8 different atomic actors and put them into a 
composite actor.
May be this can solve the matter (My project release is due this month end!!).
Anyway thanks a lot for the suggestion, I will try it and let you know.

Thanks
kiran

- Original Message -
From: Mohamed Salem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 04 Dec 2003 16:12:55 +0200
To: Kiran SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need to delay execution by 1 clk...

> Hi Kiran and all,
> 
>   If this actor is constructed as one atomic-actor that models the eight
> stages of execution, I would suggest that you re-build it as a composite
> actor from eight diffent atmoic-actors (your own models and/or from
> library actors).Each atomic actor in this model would be corresponding
> to one of the eight stages of execution.
> 
>   Pipeline your actors; in other words output of (actor1/stage 1) is
> connected to input of (actor2/stage2);meanwhile all eight are
> synchronous;i.e connected to the same main clock.
> 
>   The DE director reacts to each positive edge as an event. The
> running(execution) of the overall composite actor is a sequene of events
> corresponding to each positive edge of the clock.
> 
>   In this criteria, Consider two consecutive actors (one delivering to
> the next) in (execution graph) ; at the positive edge both of them are
> Fired such that at this instance(event) T ; (actorX) delivers its output
> at time (T-1)to (actorX+1) and it produces simultaneously an output that
> to be delivered to (actorX+1)in the next firing event(next positive
> edge)at time (T+1).In other words the output token of actorX is reserved
> (not changing) in the gap between two consecutive events.
> 
> for example :
> assume 
> actorX output at T-1 = m 
> actorX output at T   = n 
> 
> (ActorX reserves-stores(flipflop) a value =m for one clock cycle)
> 
> Then
>  
> actor X+1 processes an input = m at time T 
> actor X+1 processes an input = n at time T+1 
> 
>   Conclusion , if I understand your exact problem , this method could
> do your job without a delay actor in between actorX and actor X+1. 
> Otherwise, insertion of a Timedelay with delay parameter of 1 could
> help.
> 
> I hope that this would be helpful ...
> let me know about results.
> 
> THANKS for your time and interest
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
>   Mohamed A.Salem
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 13:06, Kiran SB wrote:
> > Hi
> > I am new to ptolemy (6 months).
> > Currently I am using PTII 3.0.2 for building(simulating) custom actors in the
> > DE domain, which are basically executional elements (of a reconfigurable 
> > device).
> > 
> > In one particular situation I have an actor with 8 stages of execution.
> > During initialize I construct a Execution(Data) flow graph depending on the
> > selector settings in the actor.
> > I traverse through the graph and execute each stage in it during fire.
> > Now at one stage I need to create a delay of 1 clock.
> > The executional unit needs to sleep for a clock and proceed to the next stage.
> > Basically I need to forward time by a clock.
> > setCurrentTime (currentTime+1) might not be a good idea as it might cause
> > problems to the token's timestamp.
> > What is to be achieved is that the currentTime after this stage should be
> > t+1(say we started at t).
> > I don't know if I can use DEEventQueue in any way for this purpose.
> > Maybe its a wrong or a repeat question!
> > I have searched all group messages and couldn't find anybody with such a
> > requirement.
> > Can somebody help me out with this problem?
> > 
> > - kiran
> 

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