Re: [cabfpub] Ballot SC9 – Conversion of Validation and NetSec Working Groups to SCWG Subcommittees

2018-09-14 Thread Tim Hollebeek via Public
For the record, I’m in favor of making it explicitly clear that the scope remains the same. If you’re making changes, feel free to also add Wayne as Validation WG Vice Chair, since he already runs the meetings for me when I’m traveling. -Tim From: Kirk Hall Sent: Thursday,

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot SC9 – Conversion of Validation and NetSec Working Groups to SCWG Subcommittees

2018-09-13 Thread Wayne Thayer via Public
In my opinion it makes some sense to move forward with a conversion of the Validation WG to a Subcommittee with the existing broad scope and no expiration date. On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 3:21 PM Kirk Hall wrote: > I’m taking your comment as saying you will vote in favor of the ballot if > I make

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot SC9 – Conversion of Validation and NetSec Working Groups to SCWG Subcommittees

2018-09-13 Thread Kirk Hall via Public
I’m taking your comment as saying you will vote in favor of the ballot if I make that specific change, so I’ll make that change. Otherwise, on this ballot and Ballot SC10, I’m only going to consider comments and criticisms that propose specific alternate language. We have spent two months on

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot SC9 – Conversion of Validation and NetSec Working Groups to SCWG Subcommittees

2018-09-13 Thread Wayne Thayer via Public
Kirk, My concern is that the ballot doesn't explicitly state what you (and I agree) believe is intended here. Someone in the future can look back at the ballot language we passed with SC9 and interpret it differently. Simply copying the VWG scope (and deliverables) into the body of the motion

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot SC9 – Conversion of Validation and NetSec Working Groups to SCWG Subcommittees

2018-09-13 Thread Kirk Hall via Public
Wayne – sorry, I didn’t see your message until now. In my view, “converting” the Validation Working Group to the Validation Subcommittee under Bylaw 5.3.4 means it has the same scope as it had under Ballot 143, which established the Validation Working Group. If the scope is repeated or

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot SC9 – Conversion of Validation and NetSec Working Groups to SCWG Subcommittees

2018-09-13 Thread Wayne Thayer via Public
This ballot doesn't appear to account for any of the scoping proposed or concerns raised in this thread: https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2018-July/013736.html If the intent here is that conversion of an existing WG binds the new subcommittee to the original scope of the WG, then that should

Re: [cabfpub] Ballot SC9 – Conversion of Validation and NetSec Working Groups to SCWG Subcommittees

2018-09-12 Thread Tim Hollebeek via Public
Thanks for taking the time to write this, Kirk. I'll endorse. -Tim From: Public On Behalf Of Kirk Hall via Public Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:52 PM To: CABFPub Subject: [cabfpub] Ballot SC9 - Conversion of Validation and NetSec Working Groups to SCWG Subcommittees I am proposing

[cabfpub] Ballot SC9 – Conversion of Validation and NetSec Working Groups to SCWG Subcommittees

2018-09-12 Thread Kirk Hall via Public
I am proposing the following ballot – are there two endorsers? If we move soon on this, we can get this ballot approved before October 3, and there will be no lapse for these two Subcommittees. (Note: I considered also converting the Governance Change Working Group to a Subcommittee, but it