Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] [EXTERNAL] Ballot SC6 v2 - Revocation Timeline Extension

2018-08-31 Thread Wayne Thayer via Public
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 9:21 AM Ryan Sleevi wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 12:10 PM Wayne Thayer wrote: > >> But aren't these distinct organizations? >>> >> > >> In what sense? Certainly in the physical world they are the same. >> > > In the information being reported in the certificate.

Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] [EXTERNAL] Ballot SC6 v2 - Revocation Timeline Extension

2018-08-31 Thread Ryan Sleevi via Public
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 12:10 PM Wayne Thayer wrote: > But aren't these distinct organizations? >> > > > In what sense? Certainly in the physical world they are the same. > In the information being reported in the certificate. Obviously, this is more a matter of OV/EV than DV, but the argument

Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] [EXTERNAL] Ballot SC6 v2 - Revocation Timeline Extension

2018-08-31 Thread Wayne Thayer via Public
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 6:24 PM Ryan Sleevi wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 6:41 PM Wayne Thayer via Servercert-wg < > servercert...@cabforum.org> wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:42 AM Ryan Sleevi wrote: >> >>> Thanks Wayne. >>> >>> I know you're intentionally avoiding the

Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] [EXTERNAL] Ballot SC6 v2 - Revocation Timeline Extension

2018-08-30 Thread Ryan Sleevi via Public
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 6:41 PM Wayne Thayer via Servercert-wg < servercert...@cabforum.org> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:42 AM Ryan Sleevi wrote: > >> Thanks Wayne. >> >> I know you're intentionally avoiding the controversial cleanups with this >> specific Ballot, so it will be good to

Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] [EXTERNAL] Ballot SC6 v2 - Revocation Timeline Extension

2018-08-30 Thread Wayne Thayer via Public
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:42 AM Ryan Sleevi wrote: > Thanks Wayne. > > I know you're intentionally avoiding the controversial cleanups with this > specific Ballot, so it will be good to have a follow-on discussion for > those matters, as CAs will no doubt having to make only one update to their

Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] [EXTERNAL] Ballot SC6 v2 - Revocation Timeline Extension

2018-08-30 Thread Ryan Sleevi via Public
Thanks Wayne. I know you're intentionally avoiding the controversial cleanups with this specific Ballot, so it will be good to have a follow-on discussion for those matters, as CAs will no doubt having to make only one update to their CP/CPS versus two. Or, differently stated, I'd hope that the

Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] [EXTERNAL] Ballot SC6 v2 - Revocation Timeline Extension

2018-08-29 Thread Wayne Thayer via Public
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:05 AM Ryan Sleevi wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:53 AM Wayne Thayer wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 7:33 AM Bruce Morton < >> bruce.mor...@entrustdatacard.com> wrote: >> >>> Works for me. >>> >>> Bruce. >>> >>> On Aug 29, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Ryan Sleevi

Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] [EXTERNAL] Ballot SC6 v2 - Revocation Timeline Extension

2018-08-29 Thread Ryan Sleevi via Public
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:53 AM Wayne Thayer wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 7:33 AM Bruce Morton < > bruce.mor...@entrustdatacard.com> wrote: > >> Works for me. >> >> Bruce. >> >> On Aug 29, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: >> >> Just to confirm: Your concern is about the CA feeling

Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] [EXTERNAL] Ballot SC6 v2 - Revocation Timeline Extension

2018-08-29 Thread Wayne Thayer via Public
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 7:33 AM Bruce Morton < bruce.mor...@entrustdatacard.com> wrote: > Works for me. > > Bruce. > > On Aug 29, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > > Just to confirm: Your concern is about the CA feeling that the evidence > does not meet any of the requirements to revoke,