Re: Can we afford to offer SPARQL endpoints when we are successful? (Was "linked data hosted somewhere")

2008-11-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Peter Ansell wrote: 2008/11/27 Hugh Glaser <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Prompted by the thread on "linked data hosted somewhere" I would like to ask the above question that has been bothering me for a while. The only reason anyone can afford to offer a SPARQL

Re: Can we afford to offer SPARQL endpoints when we are successful? (Was "linked data hosted somewhere")

2008-11-26 Thread Aldo Bucchi
Hugh, Let's just look forward. This is not the same world, not the same game and definitely not the same problem. The comparison stops the minute you realize we now have billions of computers connected, and a globally distributed DSN. The trick is understanding that we are not exposing SQL endpo

Re: Can we afford to offer SPARQL endpoints when we are successful? (Was "linked data hosted somewhere")

2008-11-26 Thread Sherman Monroe
Amazon Web Services platform offers one solution, I think people will soon begin to realize that data access in the SW comes with a small cost, and that cost can mainly be absorbed by the consumer. If the user is deriving any utility from the data they consume, then they sho

Re: Can we afford to offer SPARQL endpoints when we are successful? (Was "linked data hosted somewhere")

2008-11-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Hugh Glaser wrote: Prompted by the thread on "linked data hosted somewhere" I would like to ask the above question that has been bothering me for a while. The only reason anyone can afford to offer a SPARQL endpoint is because it doesn't get used too much? No. For instance DBpedia has offe

Re: Can we afford to offer SPARQL endpoints when we are successful? (Was "linked data hosted somewhere")

2008-11-26 Thread Peter Ansell
2008/11/27 Juan Sequeda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hugh, > > Nice point brought up. > > What I do see is that even though we can't make a sql query to the facebook > db, we can use the api's to obtain data. Same as some many different > applications that offer api. > > Now imagine LOD as the data that

Re: Can we afford to offer SPARQL endpoints when we are successful? (Was "linked data hosted somewhere")

2008-11-26 Thread Peter Ansell
2008/11/27 Hugh Glaser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Prompted by the thread on "linked data hosted somewhere" I would like to > ask > the above question that has been bothering me for a while. > > The only reason anyone can afford to offer a SPARQL endpoint is because it > doesn't get used too much? > >

Re: Can we afford to offer SPARQL endpoints when we are successful? (Was "linked data hosted somewhere")

2008-11-26 Thread Juan Sequeda
Hugh, Nice point brought up. What I do see is that even though we can't make a sql query to the facebook db, we can use the api's to obtain data. Same as some many different applications that offer api. Now imagine LOD as the data that a developer can obtain from an api. In this case, instead of

Re: A VoCamp Galway 2008 success story

2008-11-26 Thread Juan Sequeda
Neologism is crucial!! That is an awesome tool! Really looking forward to do VoCamp in Austin after we do a Linked Data tutorial! Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student Research Assistant Dept. of Computer Sciences The University of Texas at Austin http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~jsequeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:

Can we afford to offer SPARQL endpoints when we are successful? (Was "linked data hosted somewhere")

2008-11-26 Thread Hugh Glaser
Prompted by the thread on "linked data hosted somewhere" I would like to ask the above question that has been bothering me for a while. The only reason anyone can afford to offer a SPARQL endpoint is because it doesn't get used too much? As abstract components for studying interaction, performan

Re: linked data hosted somewhere

2008-11-26 Thread Aldo Bucchi
OK Hugh, I see what you mean and I understand you being upset. Just re-read the conversation word by word because I felt something was not right. I did say "wacky"... is that it? In that case, and if this caused the confusion, I am really sorry. I was not talking about your software, this was j

Re: linked data hosted somewhere

2008-11-26 Thread Aldo Bucchi
Hi Hugh, I don't intend to fight at all. And I don't speak for Kingsley, btw. My views are my own. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Hugh Glaser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks, Kingsley and Aldo. > I have to say you raise quite a lot of concerns, or at least matters of > interest. > I real

Re: A VoCamp Galway 2008 success story

2008-11-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Michael Hausenblas wrote: Just to let you know. One of the outcomes of the recent VoCamps [1] was that we have agreed on a final layout for voiD (Vocabulary of Interlinked Datasets). It is now available at [2] - please note that the actual (final) namespace will be 'http://rdfs.org/ns/void#'

A VoCamp Galway 2008 success story

2008-11-26 Thread Michael Hausenblas
Just to let you know. One of the outcomes of the recent VoCamps [1] was that we have agreed on a final layout for voiD (Vocabulary of Interlinked Datasets). It is now available at [2] - please note that the actual (final) namespace will be 'http://rdfs.org/ns/void#' ... can't fix everything w

Re: linked data hosted somewhere

2008-11-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Hugh Glaser wrote: Thanks, Kingsley and Aldo. I have to say you raise quite a lot of concerns, or at least matters of interest. I really don't think it is a big deal that I asked someone to consider resources when accessing my web site, and I am a bit uncomfortable that I then get messages effec

Re: Dataset vocabularies vs. interchange vocabularies (was: Re: DBpedia 3.2 release, including DBpedia Ontology and RDF links to Freebase)

2008-11-26 Thread John Graybeal
On Nov 19, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Richard Cyganiak wrote: Interestingly, this somewhat echoes an old argument often heard in the days of the “URI crisis” a few years ago: ““We must avoid a proliferation of URIs. We must avoid having lots of URIs for the same thing. Re-use other people's identif

Re: Some FOAF services

2008-11-26 Thread Libby Miller
Mischa, On 26 Nov 2008, at 15:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Am mailing round to announce some FOAF related services Garlik are hosting at foaf.qdos.com. Very cool stuff. 1. FOAF Validator[1]: We have put together a page which can be used to validate foaf documents. We put this

Re: linked data hosted somewhere

2008-11-26 Thread Hugh Glaser
Thanks, Kingsley and Aldo. I have to say you raise quite a lot of concerns, or at least matters of interest. I really don't think it is a big deal that I asked someone to consider resources when accessing my web site, and I am a bit uncomfortable that I then get messages effectively telling me tha

Re: linked data hosted somewhere

2008-11-26 Thread Kingsley Idehen
रविंदर ठाकुर (ravinder thakur) wrote: can we use this data on EC2 form environments outside EC2. Of course. EC2 is just a computing resource virtualization space in the clouds. It give you a disposable networked computer in the clouds, in a nutshell. I thoguht we already have the LOD hosted

Re: linked data hosted somewhere

2008-11-26 Thread रविंदर ठाकुर (ravinder thakur)
can we use this data on EC2 form environments outside EC2. I thoguht we already have the LOD hosted somewhere with nice SPARQL etc endpoints avialable :) As an developer trying to make some useful apps on semantic web, i would like to concentrate on the apps logic rather than hosting the data and

Some FOAF services

2008-11-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello, Am mailing round to announce some FOAF related services Garlik are hosting at foaf.qdos.com. 1. FOAF Validator[1]: We have put together a page which can be used to validate foaf documents. We put this together based on common errors we found in FOAF documents online. Any suggestion