Re: What is a URL? And What is a URI

2010-11-12 Thread Dave Reynolds
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 12:52 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: All, As the conversation about HTTP responses evolves, I am inclined to believe that most still believe that: 1. URL is equivalent to a URI 2. URI is a fancier term for URI 3. URI is equivalent to URL. I think my opinion on

Re: What is a URL? And What is a URI

2010-11-12 Thread Patrick Durusau
Dave, Thanks! I was working on a much longer and convoluted response. Best to refer to the canonical source and let it go. Patrick On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 09:22 +, Dave Reynolds wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 12:52 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: All, As the conversation about HTTP

survey: who uses the triple foaf:name rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label?

2010-11-12 Thread Dan Brickley
Dear all, The FOAF RDFS/OWL document currently includes the triple foaf:name rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label . This is one of several things that OWL DL oriented tools (eg. http://www.mygrid.org.uk/OWL/Validator) don't seem to like, since it mixes application schemas with the W3C builtins. So

Re: survey: who uses the triple foaf:name rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label?

2010-11-12 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
Yes Sig.ma heavily checks for properties that are subclass of label and uses them. I think sparallax as well. Gio On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org wrote: Dear all, The FOAF RDFS/OWL document currently includes the triple  foaf:name rdfs:subPropertyOf

Linked Data Thesaurus online (was: Re: synonym / thesaurus data)

2010-11-12 Thread Angelo Veltens
Hi there, I have used skos:Concept for the synonym sets now and skos-xl:Label for the terms. I linked one of the terms as prefLabel to a synset and its synonyms as altLabel But you can try it yourself - its online! Example query: http://thesaurus.datenwissen.de/offen#term Do not forget to

Re: survey: who uses the triple foaf:name rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label?

2010-11-12 Thread Bernard Vatant
Hi Dan For the record what happened to geonames ontology re. this issue Answering to the first publication of geonames ontology in october 2006, Tim Berners-Lee himself asked for the geonames:name attribute to be declared as a subproperty of rdfs:label to make Tabulator able to use it. And in

Re: Status codes / IR vs. NIR -- 303 vs. 200

2010-11-12 Thread Lars Heuer
Hi Kingsley, [...] If I want an RDF/XML representation of the document, I can ask for Accept: application/rdf+xml and Wikipedia would (ideally) return an RDF/XML representation of that resource which tells me that John Lennon is a person who was born at ... murdered at ... was part

Re: What is a URL? And What is a URI

2010-11-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/12/10 4:22 AM, Dave Reynolds wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 12:52 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: All, As the conversation about HTTP responses evolves, I am inclined to believe that most still believe that: 1. URL is equivalent to a URI 2. URI is a fancier term for URI 3. URI is equivalent

Re: Google Refine 2.0

2010-11-12 Thread Leigh Dodds
Hi David, Congratulations on getting the 2.0 release out. I'm looking forward to working with it some more. Kingsley asked about extensions. You've already mentioned the work done at DERI, and I've previously pointed at the reconciliation API I built over the Talis Platform [1]. I used Refines'

Re: What is a URL? And What is a URI

2010-11-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/12/10 5:59 AM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Dave, Thanks! I was working on a much longer and convoluted response. Best to refer to the canonical source and let it go. Patrick On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 09:22 +, Dave Reynolds wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 12:52 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

Re: Status codes / IR vs. NIR -- 303 vs. 200

2010-11-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/12/10 7:22 AM, Lars Heuer wrote: Hi Kingsley, [...] If I want an RDF/XML representation of the document, I can ask for Accept: application/rdf+xml and Wikipedia would (ideally) return an RDF/XML representation of that resource which tells me that John Lennon is a person who was

Re: Google Refine 2.0

2010-11-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/12/10 7:34 AM, Leigh Dodds wrote: Hi David, Congratulations on getting the 2.0 release out. I'm looking forward to working with it some more. Kingsley asked about extensions. You've already mentioned the work done at DERI, and I've previously pointed at the reconciliation API I built

Re: Google Refine 2.0

2010-11-12 Thread Leigh Dodds
Hi Kingsley: I recommend you take some time to work with Refine, watch the demos, and perhaps read the paper that Richard et al published on how they have used and extended Refine (or Gridworks as it was) But to answer you question: On 12 November 2010 13:23, Kingsley Idehen

Semantic Ambiguity

2010-11-12 Thread William Waites
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 08:40:14AM -0500, Patrick Durusau wrote: Semantic ambiguity isn't going to go away. It is part and parcel of the very act of communication. [...] Witness the lack of uniform semantics in the linked data community over something as common as sameAs. As the linked

Re: Status codes / IR vs. NIR -- 303 vs. 200

2010-11-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/12/10 9:18 AM, Lars Heuer wrote: Hi Kingsley, [...] identity problem. Unless we'd introduce a concept to distinguish between NIRs and IRs (like Topic Maps does with Subject Identifiers and Subject Locators). Topic Maps isn't doing anything that isn't being done via Linked Data

Re: What is a URL? And What is a URI

2010-11-12 Thread Patrick Durusau
Kingsley, On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 10:12 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/12/10 8:40 AM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Kingsley, On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 07:58 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/12/10 5:59 AM, Patrick Durusau wrote: snip Patrick / Dave, I am hoping as the responses

Re: survey: who uses the triple foaf:name rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label?

2010-11-12 Thread Toby Inkster
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:08:36 +0100 Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org wrote: This is one of several things that OWL DL oriented tools (eg. http://www.mygrid.org.uk/OWL/Validator) don't seem to like, since it mixes application schemas with the W3C builtins. DL is a tiresome bore. Add a few more

Re: survey: who uses the triple foaf:name rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label?

2010-11-12 Thread KangHao Lu (Kenny)
Dear Dan, On 2010/11/12, at 20:08, Dan Brickley wrote: Dear all, The FOAF RDFS/OWL document currently includes the triple foaf:name rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label . This is one of several things that OWL DL oriented tools (eg. http://www.mygrid.org.uk/OWL/Validator) don't seem to like, since

Re: survey: who uses the triple foaf:name rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label?

2010-11-12 Thread KangHao Lu (Kenny)
This is one of several things that OWL DL oriented tools (eg. http://www.mygrid.org.uk/OWL/Validator) don't seem to like, since it mixes application schemas with the W3C builtins. FWIW, the footer on the page of the tool mentioned [[ © University of Manchester, 2003, © University of

Re: survey: who uses the triple foaf:name rdfs:subPropertyOf rdfs:label?

2010-11-12 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
Unfortunately, they should complain. OWL defines rdfs:label as an annotation property, but foaf:name is a datatype property. If foaf decided to make foaf:name an annotation property too, then it would be possible to assert that, and even to retain the domain and range assertions. While they

Re: What is a URL? And What is a URI

2010-11-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/12/10 1:31 PM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Kingsley, On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 10:12 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/12/10 8:40 AM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Kingsley, On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 07:58 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/12/10 5:59 AM, Patrick Durusau wrote: snip Patrick /

LIMES

2010-11-12 Thread Axel Ngonga
Dear all, On behalf of AKSW Research Group [1] I'm pleased to announce the first public release of the *LIMES framework* (Link Discovery Framework for Metric Spaces) available for download at: http://limes.sf.net LIMES implements time-efficient and lossless approaches for large-scale link

Re: Google Refine 2.0

2010-11-12 Thread KangHao Lu (Kenny)
(Sorry I haven't played with Google Refine 2.0, but I would like to make some comments) I'm pretty sure we're on the same page regarding the big vision: make data more fun, more useful, and easier to deal with. My focus is on a smaller and more immediate problem: how to let people handle

Re: What is a URL? And What is a URI

2010-11-12 Thread Patrick Durusau
Kingsley, Last one for today! On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 16:05 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/12/10 1:31 PM, Patrick Durusau wrote: snip Not to be offensive but are you familiar with begging the question? You are assuming that ...we can solve ambiguity in the context of Linked Data

Re: What is a URL? And What is a URI

2010-11-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/12/10 6:47 PM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Kingsley, Last one for today! On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 16:05 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/12/10 1:31 PM, Patrick Durusau wrote: snip Not to be offensive but are you familiar with begging the question? You are assuming that ...we can solve