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Real-world concept URIs

Hi list, Short version: I want real-world concepts to be able to have a URI without a http://;. You cannot transfer any real-world concept over an Internet protocol anyway. Why I would consider changing this can be * If you don't agree, why? * If you do agree, should we change the

Real-world concept URIs

Hi list, Short version: I want real-world concepts to be able to have a URI without a http://;. You cannot transfer any real-world concept over an Internet protocol anyway. Why I would consider changing this can be * If you don't agree, why? * If you do agree, should we change the

Re: Real-world concept URIs

I never really understood the difference between real world objects and their representations. I've never had to talk about the representation of something, so I always just dealt with real world URIs. I have http://zebra. For me http://zebra represents the animal zebra. If people want to know

Re: Real-world concept URIs

Hi Luca, Thank you for your reply. An example why you would need it is to add more statements for e.g., hypermedia applications which need to know how to navigate. For instance, our zebra has many owners (and these owners don't fit on one page): HTTP GET http://zebra#animal Response:

Re: Real-world concept URIs

Hi Pieter, I disagree, pending clarification. If the transportation costs of (RESTful) URI's - an Ontology - between Top Level Domains TLD is Zero - more specifically exp(Zero)-1=Zero, then the URI's are entangled (as in Quantum Entanglement). In this case, the URI's are not broken, but

Re: Real-world concept URIs

Hi Pieter, If we still stick with URIs (as a name but not a locator) [1] but with a different scheme, say things or something, your solution will still work the same, right? There are already URN/DOI to URL resolvers [3], so similarly but rather than using a service, your URIs identifying real

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When do people need to refer to the document or the representation of the animal zebra? If we want to differentiate between I like the zebra; I don't like the document about the zebra. Or more real-world examples: a document about Barack Obama has a different creation date than Barack

Re: Real-world concept URIs

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Ruben Verborgh ruben.verbo...@ugent.be wrote: If we want to differentiate between I like the zebra; I don't like the document about the zebra. But why do they need to be on the same domain? Several parties on different domains can represent information

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But why do they need to be on the same domain? They don't need to be. Several parties on different domains can represent information about the animal zebra. They just seem like different things to me. They are, indeed.

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Recommended reading would be Cool URIs for the Semantic Web: http://www.w3.org/TR/cooluris/ In spite of the advice in that document, people can and sometimes do use the same URI for both the real world entity (such as a zebra) and the document that describes that zebra. Doing so may be

Re: Real-world concept URIs

Hi Pieter, On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Pieter Colpaert pieter.colpa...@ugent.be wrote: Hi Nandana, Thank you a lot for your clear reply! On 2014-07-17 19:17, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya wrote: Hi Pieter, If we still stick with URIs (as a name but not a locator) [1] but with a

RE: Real-world concept URIs

As used by Luca, the animal zebra is not a real world thing either: it's a man-made concept, or possibly a form (Plato - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Forms ). It's a classification applied to a number of individual things that have common characteristics (black and white stripes,

Re: Real-world concept URIs

If we want to differentiate between      I like the zebra;      I don't like the document about the zebra. But why do they need to be on the same domain? Several parties on different domains can represent information about the animal zebra. They just seem like different things to

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I can't speak for other countries in North, South and Central America, but I can say the that United States does not have an official language, even though people who hate immigrants wish it did. ᐧ On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Gannon Dick gannon_d...@yahoo.com wrote: If we want to

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Right you are Paul. I live in Texas. Mexico does not want us back after what we did to their food, but if they find out what we do to Spanish I predict they will be building fences at the border. IMHO, this whole catastrophe could be avoided if Google Translate spoke Zebra. Is it just me?