Re: URIs within URIs

2014-08-25 Thread Ruben Verborgh
Hi Mark, Indeed. Interestingly, this use case was the first one I published as an example of RDF Forms; http://www.markbaker.ca/2003/10/UriProxy/ It's then probably not a coincidence that the first iteration of triple pattern fragments worked with the RDF Forms vocabulary :-)

Re: Education

2014-08-25 Thread Hugh Glaser
Hi Leif, I’m not sure you meant to do Reply-all. :-) But a Reply-all from me what said that you exactly have the point. It is entirely appropriate that more than half the course, or even more, would be on scripting itself. And that the students would start from essentially no knowledge - that is

Re: URIs within URIs

2014-08-25 Thread Ruben Verborgh
Hi Luca, I'm wondering however if *form URIs* could themselves be resources rather than datasets. Sure, why not. They're just URIs. For example imagine the example from earlier: http://bar.com/?subject=http%3A%2F%2Ffoo.com%2Falice a void:Dataset . http://foo.com/alice #some #data .

Re: URIs within URIs

2014-08-25 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 8/25/14 7:26 AM, Ruben Verborgh wrote: Hi Luca, I'm wondering however if*form URIs* could themselves be resources rather than datasets. Sure, why not. They're just URIs. For example imagine the example from earlier: http://bar.com/?subject=http%3A%2F%2Ffoo.com%2Falice a

Re: URIs within URIs

2014-08-25 Thread Hugh Glaser
On 22 Aug 2014, at 22:43, Ruben Verborgh ruben.verbo...@ugent.be wrote: Hi Hugh, Can you tell me id there is a pattern for the uri= style stuff, where you want everything the service wants to say about the URI, in any position? The current triple pattern fragments spec does not

Re: URIs within URIs

2014-08-25 Thread Ruben Verborgh
bnodes are Semantic Web, but not Linked Data. If a node doesn't have a universal identifier, it cannot be addressed. I find this comment strange. If you mean that I can’t query using a bnode, then sure. If you mean that I never get any bnodes back as a result of a Linked Data URI GET, then

Re: URIs within URIs

2014-08-25 Thread Paul Houle
One of the advantages of bNodes is that they don't have names so that people can't add things to them. This is useful in the case of RDF Collections and in places of the OWL spec where you can use them to say that 'these things are in the collection' and others can't add to them. On Mon, Aug

Re: URIs within URIs

2014-08-25 Thread Herbert Van de Sompel
On Aug 25, 2014, at 9:38, Paul Houle ontolo...@gmail.com wrote: One of the advantages of bNodes is that they don't have names so that people can't add things to them. This is useful in the case of RDF Collections Yes, because RDF Collections are collections without identity. But, in many

Re: URIs within URIs

2014-08-25 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 8/25/14 11:17 AM, Ruben Verborgh wrote: bnodes are Semantic Web, but not Linked Data. If a node doesn't have a universal identifier, it cannot be addressed. I find this comment strange. If you mean that I can’t query using a bnode, then sure. If you mean that I never get any bnodes back as a