Re: Advocacy URL for publishing data with an explicit license

2011-10-24 Thread Ian Davis
Talis has written about this issue or encouraged others to write for quite a while. Here are a few links. There are probably others I have forgotten about. http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/2010/02/sharing-data-on-the-web.php

Re: Linked Data visualisation of Indices of Multiple Deprivation

2011-09-08 Thread Ian Davis
Very nice! On 8 Sep 2011 17:58, Bill Roberts b...@swirrl.com wrote: The list might be interested in a prototype application built by Steve Peters that visualises and links up data on: - the English Indices of Multiple Deprivation from http://opendatacommunities.org (which I was involved with)

Re: Squaring the HTTP-range-14 circle

2011-06-17 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 21:22 -0400, Tim Berners-Lee wrote: On 2011-06 -16, at 16:41, Ian Davis wrote: The problem here is that there are so few things that people want to say about web pages compared

Re: Squaring the HTTP-range-14 circle

2011-06-17 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Tim Berners-Lee ti...@w3.org wrote: On 2011-06 -17, at 08:51, Ian Davis wrote: If you use HTTP 200 for something different, then you break my ability to look at a page, review it, and then express my review in RDF,  using the page's URI as the identifier

Re: Squaring the HTTP-range-14 circle

2011-06-17 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Tim Berners-Lee ti...@w3.org wrote: Not quite. It is saying that you can't give a review for my http://foobar.gov.uk/datasets/population web page because the RDF returned by the URI says it denotes a dataset not the web page. You can still review the dataset

Re: Squaring the HTTP-range-14 circle

2011-06-17 Thread Ian Davis
Small typo changed the meaning of what I was saying: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Ian Davis li...@iandavis.com wrote: OK, we differ here then. I would prefer to bookmark the movie because that's what I'm interested in. The page will change over the years but the movie will still persist

Re: Squaring the HTTP-range-14 circle

2011-06-16 Thread Ian Davis
Tim, On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Tim Berners-Lee ti...@w3.org wrote: I don't think 303 is a quick and dirty hack. It does mean a large extension of HTTP to be uses with non-documents. It does have efficiency problems. It is an architectural extension to the web architecture. We have

Re: Quick reality check please

2011-04-08 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Richard Cyganiak rich...@cyganiak.de wrote: With the second issue it's not so clear what to do about it. It's a question of good practice, and I'm not aware of any document where that recommendation could be easily added. Maybe it could be written up as a

Re: Exciting changes at Data.Southampton.ac.uk!

2011-04-01 Thread Ian Davis
Christopher, I really don't see why I should have to reengineer my entire toolchain simply to consume your proprietary format. It is well known that the standard for information interchange is the Microsoft Word 97 document format which is easily read by every popular computing package. I for one

Re: Exciting changes at Data.Southampton.ac.uk!

2011-04-01 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Richard Cyganiak rich...@cyganiak.de wrote: Taking advantage of one of PDF's many advantages, we plan to present the first printed and bound version of the complete Linked PDF Data at next years' LDOW workshop. Order your copy now! Shipping fees not included.

Re: data schema / vocabulary / ontology / repositories

2011-03-13 Thread Ian Davis
Please try http://schemapedia.com/ and see if it meets your needs. On 13 Mar 2011 16:23, Dieter Fensel dieter.fen...@sti2.at wrote: Dear all, for a number of projects I was searching for vocabularies/Ontologies to describe linked data. Could you please recommend me places where to look for

Re: The truth about SPARQL Endpoint availability

2011-03-06 Thread Ian Davis
Is the number of triples that important? With all respect to the people on this list, I think there's a tendency to obsess over triple counts. Aren't we past that bootstrap phase of being awed when we see millions of triples being produced? I thought we'd moved towards being more focussed on

Re: Google's structured seach talk / Google squared UI

2011-02-11 Thread Ian Davis
Hi, I did something very similar to Google Squared in small php script a couple of years ago: http://iandavis.com/2009/lodgrid/?store=spacequery=jupitercolumns=6 It uses linked data held in the Talis Platform and the platform's full text search service. More examples linked from the main page:

Re: Google's structured seach talk / Google squared UI

2011-02-11 Thread Ian Davis
and return results from nasa and dbpedia?Juan Sequeda +1-575-SEQ-UEDA www.juansequeda.com On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Ian Davis li...@iandavis.com wrote: Hi, I did something very similar to Google Squared in small php script a couple of years ago: http://iandavis.com/2009/lodgrid

Re: What would break, a question for implementors? (was Re: Is 303 really necessary?)

2010-11-09 Thread Ian Davis
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: Pete Johnston wrote: This document mentions the following class It's all very simple really, when you remove all the conflated terms. I am not conflating terms and nor is my example, but I think you are (see below) What is

Publishing Linked Data without Redirects

2010-11-08 Thread Ian Davis
I wrote up a summary of the current thinking on using 200 instead of 303 to serve up Linked Data: http://iand.posterous.com/a-guide-to-publishing-linked-data-without-red The key part is: When your webserver receives a GET request to your thing’s URI you may respond with a 200 response code and

Re: What would break, a question for implementors? (was Re: Is 303 really necessary?)

2010-11-08 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Leigh Dodds leigh.do...@talis.com wrote: So here's a couple of questions for those of you on the list who have implemented Linked Data tools, applications, services, etc: * Do you rely on or require HTTP 303 redirects in your application? Or does your app just

Re: Hash vs Slash in relation to the 303 vs 200 debate (was: Is 303 really necessary - demo)

2010-11-07 Thread Ian Davis
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Toby Inkster t...@g5n.co.uk wrote: Not necessarily. If you take your ex:isDescribedBy predicate and add that to a triple store where the non-Information-Resource resources are identified using hash URIs, then the SPARQL query is just:        DESCRIBE uri ?res

Re: 200 OK with Content-Location might work

2010-11-07 Thread Ian Davis
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Phil Archer ph...@w3.org wrote: I share John's unease here. And I remain uneasy about the 200 C-L solution. I know I sound like a fundamentalist in a discussion where we're trying to find a practical, workable solution, but is a description of a toucan a

Re: 200 OK with Content-Location might work

2010-11-06 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: Mike Kelly wrote: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-p2-semantics-12#page-14 snipped and fuller version inserted:   4.  If the response has a Content-Location header field, and that URI       is not the same as the

Hash vs Slash in relation to the 303 vs 200 debate (was: Is 303 really necessary - demo)

2010-11-06 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: URI resolution is essentially:  dereference( uri.toAbsolute() ); Which gives us the simplicity and semantic indirection which we need. Use frags, forget HTTP, know that uri#frag is never going to be a document (unless you

Is 303 really necessary - demo

2010-11-05 Thread Ian Davis
Hi all, To aid discussion I create a small demo of the idea put forth in my blog post http://iand.posterous.com/is-303-really-necessary Here is the URI of a toucan: http://iandavis.com/2010/303/toucan Here is the URI of a description of that toucan: http://iandavis.com/2010/303/toucan.rdf As

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-05 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:54 AM, William Waites w...@styx.org wrote: Provenance and debugging. It would be quite possible to record the fact that this set of triples, G, were obtained by dereferencing this uri N, at a certain time, from a certain place, with a request that looked like this and

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-05 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: What's the point in you saying:  /toucan a :Toucan; :describedBy /doc . If the rest of the world is saying:  /toucan a :Document; :primaryTopic ex:Toucan . Follow? Because the data obtained by dereferencing /toucan is

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-05 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: Not at all, I'm saying that if big-corp makes a /web crawler/ that describes what documents are about and publishes RDF triples, then if you use 200 OK, throughout the web you'll get (statements similar to) the following

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-05 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: and if I publish:  http://webr3.org/nathan#me :isKingOf :TheWorld . it's authorative and considered true? great news all round :) No :) I mean't that when you dereference http://iandavis.com/2010/303/toucan, the triples you

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-05 Thread Ian Davis
Hi David, Rather than respond to each of your points let me say that I agree with most of them :) I have snipped away the things I agree with in principle, and left the things I want to discuss further. I have a question about http://thing-described-by.org/ - how does it work when my

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-05 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: I'll roll with the who cares line of thinking, I certainly don't care how you or dbpedia or foaf or dc publish your data, so long as I can deref it, but for god sake don't go telling everybody using slash URIs and 200 is The Right

Re: Is 303 really necessary - demo

2010-11-05 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Jörn Hees j_h...@cs.uni-kl.de wrote: If I GET http://iandavis.com/2010/303/toucan i retrieve a document (I'll call this A) with rdf statements. This is not correct. You receive a response with an entity: the representation. (Here entity is used in the rfc2616

Re: What would break, a question for implementors? (was Re: Is 303 really necessary?)

2010-11-05 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: However, if you use 303's the then first GET redirects there, then you store the ontology against the redirected-to URI, you still have to do 40+ GETs but each one is fast with no response-body (ontology sent down the wire) then

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-05 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Norman Gray nor...@astro.gla.ac.uk wrote: httpRange-14 requires that a URI with a 200 response MUST be an IR; a URI with a 303 MAY be a NIR. Ian is (effectively) suggesting that a URI with a 200 response MAY be an IR, in the sense that it is defeasibly taken

Re: isDefinedBy and isDescribedBy, Tale of two missing predicates

2010-11-05 Thread Ian Davis
Kingsley, My only gripe is with mutual exclusion. ..dropping 303... didn't come across as adding an option to the mix. Ditto positioning 303 as a mandate, which it's never really been. I think you read too much conspiracy into 140 characters. Ian

Re: isDefinedBy and isDescribedBy, Tale of two missing predicates

2010-11-05 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: Better clear that up, noticed that it's an age old XHTML-RDFa potential issue, so I'll see if we can get it covered in the WG and relay back to the TAG to hopefully clear the issue. Suppose I assign the ID 'mars' to represent the

Re: Is 303 really necessary - demo

2010-11-05 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Robert Fuller robert.ful...@deri.org wrote: I submitted both urls to sindice earlier. Both were indexed and have the same content. In the search results[1] one displays with title A Toucan, the other with title, A Description of a Toucan.

Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Ian Davis
Hi all, The subject of this email is the title of a blog post I wrote last night questioning whether we actually need to continue with the 303 redirect approach for Linked Data. My suggestion is that replacing it with a 200 is in practice harmless and that nothing actually breaks on the web.

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Ian Davis
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Ian, Q: Is 303 really necessary? A: Yes, it is. Why? Read on... I don't think you explain this in your email. What's the problem with having many options re. mechanics for associating an HTTP based Entity

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Ian Davis
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 11/4/10 10:22 AM, Ian Davis wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Kingsley Idehenkide...@openlinksw.com  wrote: Ian, Q: Is 303 really necessary? A: Yes, it is. Why? Read on... I don't think you explain

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Ian Davis
] http://www.cs.vu.nl/~pmika/swc/submissions/swc2010_submission_19.pdf On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Ian Davis m...@iandavis.com wrote: Hi all, The subject of this email is the title of a blog post I wrote last night questioning whether we actually need to continue with the 303 redirect

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Ian Davis
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Giovanni Tummarello giovanni.tummare...@deri.org wrote: I think it's an orthogonal issue to the one RDFa solves. How should I use RDFa to respond to requests to http://iandavis.com/id/me which is a URI that denotes me? hashless? mm one could be to return

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Ian Davis
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: I don't presume. I prefer to use terms that are familiar with the people on this list who might be reading the message. Introducing unnecessary capitalised phrases distracts from the message. Again, you presume.

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Ian Davis
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 11/4/10 11:50 AM, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: its up to clients to really care about the distinction, i personally know of no useful clients for the web of data that will visibly misbehave if a person is mistaken

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Ian Davis
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Robin YANG yang.squ...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, yes, we can use ontology or ex:isDescribedBy, but none of solution explained what happens when you dereferencing the URI over HTTP which you just used to refer to the non-information resources. Don't u need 303 or hash

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Ian Davis
Hi Dave, On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:56 PM, David Wood da...@3roundstones.com wrote: Hi all, This is a horrible idea, for the following reasons (in my opinion and suitably caveated): - Some small number of people and organizations need to provide back-links on the Web since the Web doesn't

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Ian Davis
On Thursday, November 4, 2010, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: Please, don't. 303 is a PITA, and it has detrimental affects across the board from network load through to server admin. Likewise #frag URIs have there own set of PITA features (although they are nicer on the network and

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Ian Davis
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: You see it's not about what we say, it's about what other say, and if 10  huge corps analyse the web and spit out billions of triples saying that anything 200 OK'd is a document, then at the end when we consider the RDF graph of

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Ian Davis
On Thursday, November 4, 2010, Jörn Hees j_h...@cs.uni-kl.de wrote: Hi Ian, From your blogpost: Under my new scheme: GET /toucan responds with 200 and a representation containing some RDF which includes the triples /toucan ex:owner /anna and /toucan ex:isDescribedBy /doc GET /doc responds

Re: Please allow JS access to Ontologies and LOD

2010-10-23 Thread Ian Davis
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: Hi Ian, Thanks, I can confirm the change has been successful :) However, one small note is that the conneg URIs such as http://productdb.org/gtin/00319980033520 do not expose the header, thus can't be used. Ta. These should be

Re: Please allow JS access to Ontologies and LOD

2010-10-22 Thread Ian Davis
Hi Nathan, I implemented this header on http://productdb.org/ (since I had the code open). Can someone comfirm that it does what's expected (i.e. allows off-domain requesting of data from productdb.org) One important thing to note. The PHP snippet you gave was slightly wrong. The correct form

Re: Linked Data Movie Quiz

2010-10-18 Thread Ian Davis
Guillermo, This is a very nice demo, well done! Is the architecture generic enough to apply to other datasets? Musicbrainz would be a good one once the new linked data version is ready. Cheers, Ian 2010/10/17 Guillermo Álvaro Rey galv...@isoco.com: Dear LODers, We have created a simple

Re: PUBLINK Linked Data Consultancy

2010-10-07 Thread Ian Davis
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Michael Schneider schn...@fzi.de wrote: Sören Auer wrote: PS: Please also keep in mind that PUBLINK is very limited (max. 3-5 data owning organizations) and ca. 10 man days of support for each. I think those numbers are the really important bits. I have seen EU

Re: WordNet RDF

2010-09-09 Thread Ian Davis
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Toby Inkster t...@g5n.co.uk wrote: Dear all, I've created a think RDF wrapper around the WordNet 3.0 database (nouns only). For example:  http://ontologi.es/WordNet/data/Fool Great work. There is a SPARQL'able version of Wordnet 3.0 available via the Talis

Re: [ANN] Major update of Lexvo.org

2010-07-08 Thread Ian Davis
Hi Bernard, On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Bernard Vatant bernard.vat...@mondeca.com wrote: Basically that's it. If this practice seems good from social and technical viewpoint it could be a good idea to document it in a more formal way and put it somewhare on the wiki. There has been a

Re: RDF Extensibility

2010-07-06 Thread Ian Davis
2010/7/6 Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org: 2010/7/6 Jiří Procházka oji...@gmail.com: It would have a meaning. It would just be a false statement. The same as the following is a false statement:       foaf:Person a rdf:Property . Why do you think so? I believe it is valid RDF and even valid

Re: Show me the money - (was Subjects as Literals)

2010-07-02 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Pat Hayes pha...@ihmc.us wrote: Jeremy, your argument is perfectly sound from your company's POV, but not from a broader perspective. Of course, any change will incur costs by those who have based their assumptions upon no change happening. Your company took a

Re: destabilizing core technologies: was Re: An RDF wishlist

2010-07-02 Thread Ian Davis
Patrick, Without disputing your wider point that HTML hit the sweet point of usability and utility I will dispute the following: HTML 3.2 did have: 1) *A need perceived by users as needing to be met* Did users really know they wanted to link documents together to form a world wide web? I

Re: Show me the money - (was Subjects as Literals)

2010-07-02 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net wrote: I make this point in another post this morning but is your argument that investment by vendors = I think I just answered it there, before reading this message. Let me know if not! Ian Ian

Re: Subjects as Literals, [was Re: The Ordered List Ontology]

2010-07-02 Thread Ian Davis
Yves, On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Yves Raimond yves.raim...@gmail.com wrote: First: this is *not* a dirty hack. Brickley bif:contains ckley is a perfectly valid thing to say. You could, today, use data: URIs to represent literals with no change to any RDF system. Ian

Re: Subjects as Literals, [was Re: The Ordered List Ontology]

2010-07-02 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Jeremy Carroll jer...@topquadrant.com wrote:  On 7/2/2010 12:00 PM, Dan Brickley wrote: Or maybe we should all just take a weekend break, mull things over for a couple of days, and start fresh on monday? That's my plan anyhow... Yeah, maybe some of us could  

Re: Organization ontology

2010-06-07 Thread Ian Davis
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@googlemail.com wrote: We would like to announce the availability of an ontology for description of organizational structures including government organizations. Congratulations on the publication of this ontology! I've added it to

ANNOUNCE: lod-announce list

2010-06-07 Thread Ian Davis
Hi all, Now we are getting a steady growth in the number of Linked Data sites, products and services I thought it was time to create a low-volume announce list for Linked Data related announcements so people can keep up to date without needing to wade through the LOD discussion. You can join the

Re: Linking a vCard to its holder

2010-05-14 Thread Ian Davis
Hi you could use http://open.vocab.org/terms/businessCard There is also a proposal to add a similar property to FOAF at http://wiki.foaf-project.org/w/term_businessCard On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Felix Ostrowski felix.ostrow...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, vCards in RDF seem to be a good

Re: Cross site scripting: CORS and a Javascript library accessing Linked Data

2010-05-11 Thread Ian Davis
Hi Nathan, On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: Could everybody publishing linked data please note that open data isn't currently retrievable via client side JS libraries due to same origin policies and the likes. In order to make it open and accessible by UAs we

Re: DBpedia hosting burden

2010-04-15 Thread Ian Davis
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org wrote: Bills the major operative word in a world where the Bill Payer and Database Maintainer is a footnote (at best) re. perception of what constitutes the DBpedia Project. If dbpedia.org linked to the sparql endpoints of

Re: UK Govt RDF Data Sets

2010-04-15 Thread Ian Davis
Kingsley, You should address your question directly to the project organisers, we're a technology provider and host some of the data but it is not up to us when or where the dumps get shared. My understanding is that because this is officially sanctioned data they want to ensure that the

Re: UK Govt RDF Data Sets

2010-04-15 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Ian Davis wrote: Kingsley, You should address your question directly to the project organisers, we're a technology provider and host some of the data but it is not up to us when or where the dumps get shared. My

Re: Announce: Linked Data Patterns book

2010-04-06 Thread Ian Davis
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Peter Ansell ansell.pe...@gmail.com wrote: In the Annotation publishing pattern section there is the following statement: It is entirely consistent with the Linked Data principles to make statements about third-party resources. I don't believe that to be

Re: Linking HTML pages and data

2010-02-17 Thread Ian Davis
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: I really don't believe we achieve much via: link rel=primarytopic href=http://education.data.gov.uk/id/school/56; / primarytopic isn't an IANA registered type link. Yes, I know. Nor is foaf:primaytopic :) I

Re: Linking HTML pages and data

2010-02-16 Thread Ian Davis
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: I also agree w/ Kingsley that it would be neat to also have a link pattern that non-RDFa folks could use:  link rel=http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/primaryTopic; href=http://dbpedia.org/resource/Mogwai_(band) title=Mogwai / I have

Re: Fresnel: State of the Art?

2010-02-02 Thread Ian Davis
The Fresnel Path Language was submitted as a note to the W3C a while back: http://www.w3.org/2005/04/fresnel-info/fsl/ I implemented that in PHP as part of the moriarty library: http://code.google.com/p/moriarty/source/browse/trunk/graphpath.class.php I think FSL is very interesting (having

Re: PHP RDF fetching code

2010-01-26 Thread Ian Davis
You may find something useful in my Moriarty project: http://code.google.com/p/moriarty/ It's geared towards the Talis Platform but there is a lot of code in there that has no dependencies on the platform, e.g.: http://code.google.com/p/moriarty/source/browse/trunk/httprequest.class.php some

Re: Contd: [pedantic-web] question about sioc / foaf usage

2009-11-30 Thread Ian Davis
I assume you've noticed the dearth of RDF examples that include descriptions of RDF files that are distinct, but connected, to the file contents. People have been doing that for years using foaf:primaryTopic. See example at http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_PersonalProfileDocument and

Re: Contd: [pedantic-web] question about sioc / foaf usage

2009-11-30 Thread Ian Davis
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: If you lookup Linked Data from spaces associated with myself of OpenLink you will see use the aforementioned property re. missing relation. Also, you may also find out that few people added the missing triple to

Re: Contd: [pedantic-web] question about sioc / foaf usage

2009-11-30 Thread Ian Davis
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Peter Ansell ansell.pe...@gmail.com wrote: The necessary declaration of document as distinct, and yet necessary for the definition of data, and the necessity of different URI's for these two concepts, are fundamental sticking points for many people. Who is

Showcase of Linked Data at Online Information

2009-09-23 Thread Ian Davis
Hi all, I am delivering a Semantic Web track keynote at Online Information this year( http://www.online-information.co.uk/ ) on the subject of The Reality of Linked Data. I want to showcase the work of the community in putting Linked Data to work and bringing real benefit to end users. I am

Re: Top three levels of Dewey Decimal Classification published as linked data

2009-08-24 Thread Ian Davis
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Ross Singerrossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, yes, I think some more thought needs to go into Dewey and LCSH's relationship to the real world. I think http://www.flickr.com/photos/danbri/3282565132 might be relevant here The classification that danbri uses in

Re: Top three levels of Dewey Decimal Classification published as linked data

2009-08-20 Thread Ian Davis
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Panzer,Michaelpanz...@oclc.org wrote: Hi all, I would like to announce the availability of the DDC Summaries as a linked data service that uses SKOS and other vocabularies for representation [1]. Please take a look if you like. Comments, suggestions, and

Re: ProductDB

2009-08-14 Thread Ian Davis
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Toby Inkstert...@g5n.co.uk wrote: Does anyone know of any vocabs that provide terms like these? If not, shall I add to the VoCampBristol2009 todo list? Maybe my first ever RDF schema would be useful: http://vocab.org/barter/0.1/ Ian

Re: Distributed versioning for RDF?

2009-07-30 Thread Ian Davis
Have you looked into changesets which is used by the Talis Platform? See http://n2.talis.com/wiki/Changesets and http://vocab.org/changeset/schema.html Ian On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Axel Rauschmayera...@rauschma.de wrote: Offhand, I see the following requirements for many (mostly

Linked Data and the Public Domain

2009-07-16 Thread Ian Davis
I wrote up some background to licensing, waivers, the public domain and how it applies to linked data. I also included examples of how you can declare a public domain waiver for a linked dataset. http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/2009/07/linked-data-public-domain.php Hope this helps people with

Re: [Ann] LinkedGeoData.org

2009-07-08 Thread Ian Davis
On Wednesday, July 8, 2009, Sören Auer a...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de wrote: Dear Colleagues, On behalf of the AKSW research group [1] I'm pleased to announce the first public version of the LinkedGeoData.org datasets and services. LinkedGeoData is a comprehensive dataset derived from the

Re: .htaccess a major bottleneck to Semantic Web adoption / Was: Re: RDFa vs RDF/XML and content negotiation

2009-07-08 Thread Ian Davis
On Wednesday, July 8, 2009, Toby Inkster t...@g5n.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 15:13 +0100, Mark Birbeck wrote: The original point of this thread seemed to me to be saying that if .htaccess is the key to the semantic web, then it's never going to happen. It simply isn't the key to the

Re: LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-24 Thread Ian Davis
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.comwrote: My comments are still fundamentally about my preference for CC-BY-SA. Hence the transcopyright reference :-) I want Linked Data to have its GPL equivalent; a license scheme that: Have you read the licenses at

The Public Domain (was Re: LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS)

2009-06-24 Thread Ian Davis
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.comwrote: The NYT, London Times, and others of this ilk, are more likely to contribute their quality data to the LOD cloud if they know there is a vehicle (e.g., a license scheme) that ensures their HTTP URIs are protected

Re: LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-23 Thread Ian Davis
Hi all, On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.comwrote: All, As you may have noticed, AWS still haven't made the LOD cloud data sets -- that I submitted eons ago -- public. Basically, the hold-up comes down to discomfort with the lack of license clarity re.

Re: http://ld2sd.deri.org/lod-ng-tutorial/

2009-06-23 Thread Ian Davis
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Giovanni Tummarello g.tummare...@gmail.com wrote: Just a remark about what we're doing in Sindice, for all who want to be indexed properly by us. we recursively dereference the properties that are used thus trying to obtain a closure over the description of

Re: http://ld2sd.deri.org/lod-ng-tutorial/

2009-06-23 Thread Ian Davis
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org wrote: On 23/6/09 11:01, Martin Hepp (UniBW) wrote: And Michael, please be frank - there is a tendency in the LOD community which goes along the lines of OWL and DL-minded SW research has proven obsolete anyway, so we LOD guys

Re: LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-23 Thread Ian Davis
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.comwrote: Using licensing to ensure the data providers URIs are always preserved delivers low cost and implicit attribution. This is what I believe CC-BY-SA delivers. There is nothing wrong with granular attribution if

Re: LOD Data Sets, Licensing, and AWS

2009-06-23 Thread Ian Davis
On Wednesday, June 24, 2009, Peter Ansell ansell.pe...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/24 Ian Davis li...@iandavis.com On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Using licensing to ensure the data providers URIs are always preserved delivers low cost

Re: gimmee some data!

2009-06-15 Thread Ian Davis
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Toby Inkster t...@g5n.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 01:03 +0100, Hugh Glaser wrote: On 15/06/2009 00:18, Toby A Inkster t...@g5n.co.uk wrote: I still need to add some 303 redirects in there. Better hurry up, people might find it...

Re: gimmee some data!

2009-06-14 Thread Ian Davis
else to polish. Anyway, Happy Birthday!, a brand new present: http://biolit.rkbexplorer.com/ Hugh On 14/06/2009 10:23, Danny Ayers danny.ay...@gmail.com wrote: It's Ian Davis' birthday tomorrow, and for it he wants some linked data. So what datasets does anyone know of that can

Re: Common Tag - semantic tagging convention

2009-06-11 Thread Ian Davis
Congratulations! This looks really good On Thursday, June 11, 2009, Andraz Tori and...@zemanta.com wrote: Hi guys, today, a small consortium of web companies and one institute (AdaptiveBlue, DERI (NUI Galway), Faviki, Freebase, Yahoo!, Zemanta, and Zigtag) released a format specifying

Re: Linked Data upcoming Semantic Technologies 2009 Conference.

2009-06-10 Thread Ian Davis
I'd like to attend but that wiki page appears to be locked for edits, so I can't add myself. Can you add me? On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.comwrote: All, If you're attending the Semantic Web Technologies 2009 Conference in San Jose, note that there will

Re: New github project for RDFizer scripts

2009-05-21 Thread Ian Davis
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.comwrote: All, The 30+ xslt stylesheets [1]used by the our collection Sponger Cartridges are now available for community development and enhancement via a github [2]. Links: 1.

Re: [ANN] Linking Open Data Triplification Challenge 2009

2009-05-16 Thread Ian Davis
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Michael Hausenblas michael.hausenb...@deri.org wrote: With the recent uptake of structured data/RDF by major players such as Google the motivation for exposing relational data and other structured data sources on the Web entered a new stage. We encourage

Commercial Product Announcements

2008-12-08 Thread Ian Davis
Hi all, I'm not aware of any official policy on commercial posts to this list, but usual mailing list etiquette generally recommends that postings about commercial services and products should indicate their nature and give some indication of cost. I think this is even more important when the

Re: Domain and range are useful Re: DBpedia 3.2 release, including DBpedia Ontology and RDF links to Freebase

2008-11-17 Thread Ian Davis
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:02 AM, Tim Berners-Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-11 -17, at 11:27, John Goodwin wrote: [...] I'd be tempted to generalise or just remove the domain/range restrictions. Any thoughts? There are lots of uses for rand and domain. One is in the user interface

Re: New LOD Cloud - Please send us links to missing data sources

2008-09-19 Thread Ian Davis
I wonder if we could highlight those doing a great job in this space more, e.g. I believe Opera's foaf output is LOD On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Tom Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sad but true. Things are improving in my experience but we still have some evangelism to do in this area.

Job Advert: Linked Data Developer

2008-09-12 Thread Ian Davis
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