RE: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Any23 1.0 Release

2014-07-16 Thread Markus Lanthaler
regarding JSON-LD is, AFAICT, extracting JSON-LD embedded in HTML: http://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld/#embedding-json-ld-in-html-documents It would be awesome if support for that would be added as well. -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: Apple Safari Bug with Hash-based Identitifiers?

2014-04-14 Thread Markus Lanthaler
] http://www.w3.org/Protocols/HTTP/Fragment/draft-bos-http-redirect-00.txt [2] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-p2-semantics-26#section-7.1.2 -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-31 Thread Markus Lanthaler
: schema:knows, resource: /markus/friends } } It could also be tweaked into something like { @id: /markus, hasRelationshipIndirector: { schema:knows: /markus/friends } } so that it works nicely with property paths. -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-31 Thread Markus Lanthaler
not say that the members of /people/markus/friends are related to /people/markus via foaf:knows. But perhaps you had something completely different in mind!? -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-31 Thread Markus Lanthaler
? It would be really helpful if answers to these questions could be given by the schema.org sponsors. -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-30 Thread Markus Lanthaler
On Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:14 AM, Pat Hayes wrote: On Mar 29, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: On 03/29/2014 03:30 PM, Markus Lanthaler wrote: Schema.org doesn't suffer from this issue as much as other vocabularies do as it isn't defined with RDFS but uses its own, looser

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-29 Thread Markus Lanthaler
in the friends list. When Markus is a very popular guy the list can also be paginated. Hope that makes sense. Yes it does. It is, however, just a variation of Niklas' proposal... however with more commonly known properties. -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-29 Thread Markus Lanthaler
old JSON services to be upgraded to JSON-LD+Hydra services by just adding a context to the JSON representations, i.e., without breaking existing clients. -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-29 Thread Markus Lanthaler
if it would be state explicitely that the range also include collections/lists. 3. RDFS and OWL reasoning will work on schema:knows. No, not in the case of schema but there are other vocabularies where it is important. And sorry, this is impossible. Yes, unfortunately. -- Markus Lanthaler

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-29 Thread Markus Lanthaler
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:25 PM, Niklas Lindström wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Markus Lanthaler wrote: OK.. this is quite similar to what we discussed in the Hydra CG (and what LDP does): /markus a schema:Person ; /markus/friends/:manages [ :subject

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-25 Thread Markus Lanthaler
/ . /markus schema:knows /alice . So, how would I link from /markus to /markus/friends? -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-25 Thread Markus Lanthaler
in the context of this discussion. That's exactly the reason why I included the quite explicit plea in my first mail: please let's not talk about hash URLs etc. here, ok? So, please. Let's try to focus on the problem at hand. Thanks, Markus -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler On Mar 25

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-25 Thread Markus Lanthaler
(schema:knows). -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler regards, Haschek PS: as this is my first post to this group, I add a short info about me (don't know if it is necessary here): Michael Haschke, born in Leipzig, studied worked in the AKSW at Uni Leipzig on the OntoWiki GUI

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-25 Thread Markus Lanthaler
the semantic condition could be published as a reference at :listPropertyOf? -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler Pat Hayes On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Markus Lanthaler markus.lantha...@gmx.net wrote: Hi all, We have an interesting discussion in the Hydra W3C Community Group [1

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-25 Thread Markus Lanthaler
to suggest to infer the semantics based on the URL's structure, which is against the principle of URI Opacity [1]. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#uri-opacity -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler Original Message On Tue Mar 25 2014 at 9:01:33 AM, Pat Hayes pha

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-25 Thread Markus Lanthaler
tell the client at all why it should follow schema:url links to /markus{n}. The same is more or less true abut schema:sameAs. -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler Voila! (With the big provisio that I have no idea whether the schema.org processors actually dothe right thing here, asthere

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-25 Thread Markus Lanthaler
Hi Niklas, On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:21 PM, Niklas Lindström wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Markus Lanthaler wrote: On Monday, March 24, 2014 5:54 PM, Michael Haschke wrote: Would it be correct to summarize your question as, how do we enable mechanical features like

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-25 Thread Markus Lanthaler
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:44 PM, Jason Douglas wrote: On Tue Mar 25 2014 at 9:36:21 AM, Markus Lanthaler wrote: On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:08 PM, Jason Douglas wrote: I find that so awkward since :knows is already a repeated property. Now we have denormalized semantics and queries

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-25 Thread Markus Lanthaler
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:04 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: On 03/24/2014 08:24 AM, Markus Lanthaler wrote: Hi all, [snip] Thanks, Markus P.S.: I'm aware of how LDP handles this issue, but, while I generally like the approach it takes, I don't like that fact

How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-24 Thread Markus Lanthaler
, Markus P.S.: I'm aware of how LDP handles this issue, but, while I generally like the approach it takes, I don't like that fact that it imposes a specific interaction model. [1] http://bit.ly/HydraCG -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: How to avoid that collections break relationships

2014-03-24 Thread Markus Lanthaler
do we enable mechanical features like addressability and pagination to a value collection in a way that doesn't interfere with its semantics (i.e., change the range)? Yup, this sums it up quite well. Thanks. -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: JSON-LD: Skipping keys, but parsing their contents

2013-12-17 Thread Markus Lanthaler
On Monday, December 16, 2013 10:15 AM, Alexander Dutton wrote: On 15/12/13 12:16, Markus Lanthaler wrote: [...] The other trick you need to use is to map _links to a blank node and set its container to @index so that doesn't get ignored. The triples containing blank nodes as predicate

RE: JSON-LD: Skipping keys, but parsing their contents

2013-12-15 Thread Markus Lanthaler
, and its children don't/, which is the wrong way round for my use case. Is there an answer? I hope I gave you two above :-) Cheers, Markus -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: Is the same video but in different encodings the owl:sameAs?

2013-12-05 Thread Markus Lanthaler
Martynas, This document may give you some of the rationales behind this decision: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Why_not_conneg Cheers, Markus -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler -Original Message- From: Martynas Jusevičius [mailto:marty...@graphity.org] Sent: Thursday

RE: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-22 Thread Markus Lanthaler
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:43 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/21/13 4:18 PM, Markus Lanthaler wrote: Anyway, do you have a URL for a Turtle doc? No, as I said, at the moment I don't serve a Turtle version. Of course you can use a translator to turn the JSON-LD into Turtle (but you

RE: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-22 Thread Markus Lanthaler
such a statement. Thus you need to use constructs such as hydra:Link and hydra:Resource to make the distinction explicit. Hope this helps. If not, let me know. -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-21 Thread Markus Lanthaler
-lanthaler.com/hydra/ [2] http://www.w3.org/community/hydra/ -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-21 Thread Markus Lanthaler
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:06 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/21/13 7:33 AM, Markus Lanthaler wrote: Sure.. it's included at the end of the spec [1 above] and also available as standalone JSON-LD file: http://purl.org/hydra/core Note, there's a content negotiation problem here

RE: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-21 Thread Markus Lanthaler
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:22 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/21/13 2:00 PM, Markus Lanthaler wrote: On Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:34 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: But I am looking for Turtle, hence: curl -ILH Accept: text/turtlehttp://purl.org/hydra/core :-) Sure

RE: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-21 Thread Markus Lanthaler
, Markus [1] https://github.com/HydraCG/Specifications/issues/15 [2] http://www.markus-lanthaler.com/hydra/api-demo/vocab -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-21 Thread Markus Lanthaler
Hi Kingsley, On Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:16 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/21/13 6:14 AM, Markus Lanthaler wrote: Hi Ruben, You probably already expected me asking this :-) Why not Hydra [1]? [...] [1] http://www.markus-lanthaler.com/hydra/ [2] http://www.w3.org/community

RE: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-21 Thread Markus Lanthaler
on the discussion to date, we can discuss this further over there. Awesome! Welcome on board :-) [1] https://github.com/HydraCG/Specifications/issues/5 -- Markus Lanthaler @markuslanthaler

RE: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-21 Thread Markus Lanthaler
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:37 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/21/13 1:01 PM, Markus Lanthaler wrote: Awesome! Welcome on board:-) [1]https://github.com/HydraCG/Specifications/issues/5 SeeAlso: http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/about/id/entity/https/github.com/HydraC G

RE: representing hypermedia controls in RDF

2013-11-21 Thread Markus Lanthaler
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 7:34 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/21/13 12:46 PM, Markus Lanthaler wrote: HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: cloudflare-nginx Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:04:33 GMT Content-Type: application/ld+json All fine at my end though so everything should work. Or did I miss