Re: Cost and access (Was Re: [ESWC 2015] First Call for Paper)

2014-10-07 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 07/10/2014 14:33, Gray, Alasdair a.j.g.g...@hw.ac.uk wrote: On 3 Oct 2014 16:06, Phillip Lord phillip.l...@newcastle.ac.uk wrote: Eric Prud'hommeaux e...@w3.org writes: Let's work through the requirements and a plausible migration plan. We need: 1 persistent storage: it's hard to

Re: Linked Data and Semantic Web CoolURIs, 303 redirects and Page Rank.

2014-07-23 Thread Michael Smethurst
Hello (Pretty sure I've made this comment before so please forgive any signs of premature senility) I think this may be an unfortunate side effect of the conflation of the 303 (I can't send that) pattern with the content negotiation (what flavour would you like) pattern Lots of linked data

Re: Linked Data and Semantic Web CoolURIs, 303 redirects and Page Rank.

2014-07-23 Thread Michael Smethurst
at the BBC - essentially dealing with the fact that the server doesn't know about what comes after the # Thanks Bill On 23 Jul 2014, at 13:52, Michael Smethurst michael.smethu...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Hello (Pretty sure I've made this comment before so please forgive any signs of premature

Re: Linked Data and Semantic Web CoolURIs, 303 redirects and Page Rank.

2014-07-23 Thread Michael Smethurst
Oops, dropped laptop :-/ Continues On 23/07/2014 14:50, Michael Smethurst michael.smethu...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Hi Bill Bit of a difficult question to answer because the reality is probably still quite disjointed. Various parts of bbc.co.uk: - serve linked data - store data as rdf

Re: Linked Data and Semantic Web CoolURIs, 303 redirects and Page Rank.

2014-07-23 Thread Michael Smethurst
Regards, John Walker On July 23, 2014 at 3:55 PM Michael Smethurst michael.smethu...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Oops, dropped laptop :-/ Continues On 23/07/2014 14:50, Michael Smethurst michael.smethu...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Hi Bill Bit of a difficult question to answer because

Re: Linked Data and Semantic Web CoolURIs, 303 redirects and Page Rank.

2014-07-23 Thread Michael Smethurst
Hi Kingsley Very definitely starting to feel like deja vu... On 23/07/2014 20:18, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 7/23/14 2:05 PM, Michael Smethurst wrote: For internal usage it's all probably fine. But I still think it's a pattern that shouldn't be generally encouraged. Its

Re: Linked Data and Semantic Web CoolURIs, 303 redirects and Page Rank.

2014-07-23 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 23/07/2014 21:49, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 7/23/14 3:40 PM, Michael Smethurst wrote: Hi Kingsley Very definitely starting to feel like deja vu... On 23/07/2014 20:18, Kingsley Idehenkide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 7/23/14 2:05 PM, Michael Smethurst wrote

Re: Change Proposal for HttpRange-14

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 30/03/2012 16:15, Tom Heath tom.he...@talis.com wrote: Hi Michael, On 27 March 2012 16:17, Michael Smethurst michael.smethu...@bbc.co.uk wrote: On 26/03/2012 17:13, Tom Heath tom.he...@talis.com wrote: Hi Jeni, On 26 March 2012 16:47, Jeni Tennison j...@jenitennison.com wrote

Re: Change Proposal for HttpRange-14

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 27/03/2012 18:12, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 3/27/12 12:35 PM, Michael Smethurst wrote: On 27/03/2012 16:53, Kingsley Idehenkide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 3/27/12 11:17 AM, Michael Smethurst wrote: No sane publisher trying to handle a decent amount

Re: Change Proposal for HttpRange-14

2012-03-27 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 26/03/2012 17:13, Tom Heath tom.he...@talis.com wrote: Hi Jeni, On 26 March 2012 16:47, Jeni Tennison j...@jenitennison.com wrote: Tom, On 26 Mar 2012, at 16:05, Tom Heath wrote: On 23 March 2012 15:35, Steve Harris steve.har...@garlik.com wrote: I'm sure many people are just

Re: Change Proposal for HttpRange-14

2012-03-27 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 27/03/2012 16:53, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 3/27/12 11:17 AM, Michael Smethurst wrote: No sane publisher trying to handle a decent amount of traffic is gonna follow the dbpedia pattern of doing it in one step (conneg to 303) and picking up 2 server hits per

RE: Explaining the benefits of http-range14 (was Re: [HTTP-range-14] Hyperthing: Semantic Web URI Validator (303, 301, 302, 307 and hash URIs) )

2011-10-20 Thread Michael Smethurst
Hello! Don't want to sound hopelessly naive but for one second (until the nomenclature wars reignited) I did see a small chink of agreement there. Paraphrasing I think Leigh was saying the resource / representation split was already quite an abstraction and enough for most people in most

Re: Address Bar URI

2011-10-20 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 20/10/2011 01:18, Nathan nat...@webr3.org wrote: Dave Reynolds wrote: The problem, as I see it, is that developers start from the NIR but then use web browsers to find their way round the data and then cut paste the browser locations they find, thus ending up with IRs where they should

Re: Address Bar URI

2011-10-20 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 20/10/2011 00:35, Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: On 18 Oct 2011, at 14:49, Michael Smethurst wrote: On 18/10/2011 11:30, Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: snip So can I infer from this?: In a world where I only have one of animals (1) and (2) (despite

Re: Explaining the benefits of http-range14 (was Re: [HTTP-range-14] Hyperthing: Semantic Web URI Validator (303, 301, 302, 307 and hash URIs) )

2011-10-20 Thread Michael Smethurst
Yes, like I say, I think you agreed Nothing to be ashamed of :--Z On 20/10/2011 12:21, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 10/20/11 2:38 AM, Michael Smethurst wrote: RE: Explaining the benefits of http-range14 (was Re: [HTTP-range-14] Hyperthing: Semantic Web URI

Re: Address Bar URI

2011-10-19 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 18/10/2011 11:30, Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: Hi. On 18 Oct 2011, at 10:57, Michael Smethurst wrote: Hi Bernard Glad to hear I¹m finally making sense to someone... :-/ I think I might be still with you ;-) And finding the discussion very helpful - thanks. And I'm

Re: Address Bar URI

2011-10-18 Thread Michael Smethurst
for an IR, here it is, and in the format you've asked. Do I get your point correctly? Bernard 2011/10/18 Michael Smethurst michael.smethu...@bbc.co.uk Hi Richard (Again top post courtesy of webmail. sorry) I'm saying dbpedia is missing the concept of a *generic* information resource

Re: Address Bar URI

2011-10-18 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 18/10/2011 11:30, Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: Hi. On 18 Oct 2011, at 10:57, Michael Smethurst wrote: Hi Bernard Glad to hear I¹m finally making sense to someone... :-/ I think I might be still with you ;-) And finding the discussion very helpful - thanks. And I'm

Re: Address Bar URI

2011-10-18 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 18/10/2011 12:26, Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Michael, On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 10:57 +0100, Michael Smethurst wrote: All of the problems mentioned in this thread could be solved with the addition of a *generic* information resource URI that does the conneg

RE: Address Bar URI

2011-10-18 Thread Michael Smethurst
I don't seem to be doing a such good job at lurking but I'd thought the current argument against fragment ids was you always get a 200 (so long as the information resource they hang off exists). So: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m86d#teddybearsandtrainsets returns a 200 but that

RE: Address Bar URI

2011-10-18 Thread Michael Smethurst
(which is) see mails passim :-) -Original Message- From: Jonathan Rees [mailto:j...@creativecommons.org] Sent: Tue 10/18/2011 6:27 PM To: Michael Smethurst Cc: Kingsley Idehen; public-lod@w3.org Subject: Re: Address Bar URI On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Michael Smethurst michael.smethu

RE: Address Bar URI

2011-10-17 Thread Michael Smethurst
/2011 12:50 PM To: public-lod@w3.org Subject: Re: Address Bar URI On 10/17/11 1:48 AM, Michael Smethurst wrote: Hi Kingsley I've heard you make this argument several times in the past. But I don't understand why. How does it benefit publishers to expose the representation address? I am

RE: Address Bar URI

2011-10-16 Thread Michael Smethurst
[mailto:h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk] Sent: Sat 10/15/2011 2:43 PM To: Michael Smethurst Cc: Norman Gray; Linking Open Data; Don Cruickshank Subject: Re: Address Bar URI Thanks Michael. Very helpful to bring in the SEO perspective, even on a Friday evening. On 14 Oct 2011, at 21:28, Michael Smethurst wrote

RE: Address Bar URI

2011-10-16 Thread Michael Smethurst
: public-lod-requ...@w3.org on behalf of Kingsley Idehen Sent: Sun 10/16/2011 2:41 PM To: public-lod@w3.org Subject: Re: Address Bar URI On 10/16/11 8:50 AM, Michael Smethurst wrote: Hi Hugh Apologies for top post; blame webmail :-/ (Using labels as they appear in my head; feel free to translate

RE: Address Bar URI

2011-10-14 Thread Michael Smethurst
Have to say from a pragmatic point of view that using replaceState to switch between IR and NIR (or whatever we're supposed to call them) URIs feels like bad advice for most developers Users in older browsers are going to see (and copy and paste) one set of URIs whilst users of more modern

Re: PUBLINK Linked Data Consultancy

2010-10-07 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 07/10/2010 11:58, Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: Clearly this is an exciting thing to be doing, but I couldn't let Sören's comments go :-) On 07/10/2010 08:57, Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 01:38 +0200, Sören Auer wrote: On 07.10.2010

Re: Slightly off topic - content negotiation by language accept headers

2010-06-24 Thread Michael Smethurst
Hi John Thanks for the tips. Seems our Chrome versions aren't quite the same. I'm on MacOS (5.0.375.70) and... On 23/06/2010 19:48, John Erickson olyerick...@gmail.com wrote: Here's how you specific your language preferences in Chrome: * In the Customize menu (the wrench) select Options I

RE: A question - use 301 instead of 406?

2010-03-26 Thread Michael Smethurst
Hello Just chipping in from a publisher's perspective. The /data and /page thing on DBpedia always confused me a little. It seemed to make the assumption that there was only one page (desktop html) and only one data view (RDF). On bbc /programmes we have 2 pages (desktop html using

RE: [HELP] Can you please update information about your dataset?

2009-08-07 Thread Michael Smethurst
Hi Jun/all Just noticed the line on: http://esw.w3.org/topic/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData/DataSets/Statistics saying: BBC Later + TOTP (link not responding - 2009-04-01) That's my bad. The site's been down since we forgot to pay our ec2 bills :-/ Having said that the data has

RE: Linked railway data for the UK

2009-05-15 Thread Michael Smethurst
http://ontologi.es/rail/stations/gb/MAN.rdf and wondering if there's some confusion between location and administrative office / postal address. in the case of piccadilly it's a complex of buildings. the admin office / postal address is in a high rise alongside the actual station and

RE: Linked railway data for the UK

2009-05-14 Thread Michael Smethurst
know there was a database of all public transport nodes in the UK? http://www.naptan.org.uk/ Michael Smethurst pointed me at this lately: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOPS which is interesting at the level of identifying rolling stock (perhaps you don't want to go quite that far :-) http

RE: [backstage] Muddy Boots + BBC Music Beta

2008-08-06 Thread Michael Smethurst
another bit of a joined up bbc.co.uk clunks into place... mainly thru the efforts of you people if u were all in london and the bbc paid me enough i'd buy you all beers : ) btw: http://www.slideshare.net/fantasticlife/semweb-at-the-bbc is a presentation i gave (badly) the other day to various

rdf AND rdf-a?

2008-06-10 Thread Michael Smethurst
Morning all The site I'm working on uses microformats fairly heavily. And we've encountered all the usual problems: accessibility, lack of namespacing / scope etc. Anyway for accessibility reasons we've just updated our standards to prohibit the use of the microformat abbreviation design