RE: Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-07 Thread John Goodwin
The only problem I see with the example is that we don't have counties in Scotland, we have districts. In Quebec and Louisiana and other historically catholic places we have parishes. Is Scotland a state in the American sense, not really. You could use things like vc:county and vc:state and

Re: Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-07 Thread Phil Archer
:-) I've just been forcing 5 different location addresses for one company (BAE Systems) into VCard. In the process, I have asserted that both Filton and Samlesbury Aerodrome are street addresses. TGIF. Phil. On 07/01/2011 15:50, John Goodwin wrote: The only problem I see with the

Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-04 Thread Phil Archer
I'm doing a bit of grunt work on some data about companies and want to remodel relevant sections using the org vocabulary [1]. But... I'd rather not be forced to use vCard for the address info (because UK addresses don't fit the vCard model particularly well. You can make them fit, but it's a

Re: Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-04 Thread Dave Reynolds
Hi Phil, On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 10:32 +, Phil Archer wrote: I'm doing a bit of grunt work on some data about companies and want to remodel relevant sections using the org vocabulary [1]. But... I'd rather not be forced to use vCard for the address info (because UK addresses don't fit

Re: Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-04 Thread William Waites
* [2011-01-04 11:49:43 +] Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@gmail.com écrit: ] Is VCard that bad? It fits your example below just fine. The only problem I see with the example is that we don't have counties in Scotland, we have districts. In Quebec and Louisiana and other historically catholic

Re: Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-04 Thread Keith Alexander
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 11:49:43 -, Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Phil, On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 10:32 +, Phil Archer wrote: I'm doing a bit of grunt work on some data about companies and want to remodel relevant sections using the org vocabulary [1]. But... I'd rather

Re: Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-04 Thread Dave Reynolds
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 13:28 +0100, William Waites wrote: * [2011-01-04 11:49:43 +] Dave Reynolds dave.e.reyno...@gmail.com écrit: ] Is VCard that bad? It fits your example below just fine. The only problem I see with the example is that we don't have counties in Scotland, we have

Re: Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-04 Thread Phil Archer
Thanks everyone for the replies. OK, I'm going to try and use vCard like it says! Dave R - thanks for the example of one location having 2 addresses. I thought that such a thing might be possible but couldn't think of an example. I was thinking about shared office space but that didn't lead

Re: Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-04 Thread Tim Berners-Lee
I wish the conflation of a VCard and a SocialEntity whose card it is were either ruled out completely or asserted completely by statements in the ontology. I personally find that the class of business card is one which I do not want to have any data about. (In fact for me it maps best not to a

Re: Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-04 Thread Dave Reynolds
Hi Phil, My inclination is to simply use VCard as is (including the sub-resources) rather than try to short cut by collapsing the VCard and Address. So I'd tend to write your example as: blah a org:Site; org:siteAddress blah/vcard . blah/vcard a v:VCard ; v:fn Blah Ltd (Headquarters);

Re: Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-04 Thread Phil Archer
Thanks Dave, I'll use this, although, as you say, it's because of the re-use issue. VCard seems to have many of the problems that TimBL points to. And it does seem that encoding names and addresses in RDF is a recurring problem that has yet to be solved to everyone's satisfaction. Ah well...

Re: Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-04 Thread Alexander Dutton
On 04/01/11 11:49, Dave Reynolds wrote: The separation between the Site and the address isn't necessary in general, but it is necessary in order to reuse vcard. An org:Site isn't a vcard:Address [*] hence the need for the indirection. I think there's some confusion between the vCard and the

Re: Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-04 Thread Dave Reynolds
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 11:02 -0500, Tim Berners-Lee wrote: I wish the conflation of a VCard and a SocialEntity whose card it is were either ruled out completely or asserted completely by statements in the ontology. +1 I personally find that the class of business card is one which I do not

Re: Is vCard range restriction on org:siteAddress necessary?

2011-01-04 Thread Bob Ferris
Hi, Am 04.01.2011 13:38, schrieb Alexander Dutton: The vCard ontology doesn't give a general property for linking a thing to its v:VCard, which suggests to me that the only way to discover addresses in the general case is when properties in the vCard namespace are applied directly to people,