Re: RDF, XML, XSLT: Grit

2010-01-25 Thread Niklas Lindström
Hi Christoph, … of that kind:  I have successfully done some XSLT processing with RXR (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/RXR, http://www.dajobe.org/papers/xmleurope2004/).  I found it very nice for XSLT processing, as there is exactly one way for writing down things.  On the other hand, it's

Re: RDF, XML, XSLT: Grit

2010-01-25 Thread Niklas Lindström
Hi Frank, 2010/1/20 Frank Dengler frank.deng...@kit.edu: we published a paper about RDF syntax normalization using XML validation in the workshop Semantics for the Rest of Us at ISWC2009. In this paper we describe a method that re-uses existing standards creatively in order to provide a

Re: RDF, XML, XSLT: Grit

2010-01-21 Thread Frank Dengler
Hi Niklas, we published a paper about RDF syntax normalization using XML validation in the workshop Semantics for the Rest of Us at ISWC2009. In this paper we describe a method that re-uses existing standards creatively in order to provide a guaranteed serialization of an RDF graph that can

Re: RDF, XML, XSLT: Grit

2010-01-20 Thread Axel Polleres
Hi all, reading the thread with interest. If I understand correctly most of these approaches Grit, RXR, etc only provide normalisation, which in my opinion is only ONE part of the story in making existing RDF data amenable to XSLT/XQuery transformations. What it doesn't address is that

Re: RDF, XML, XSLT: Grit

2010-01-20 Thread Christoph LANGE
Hi Axel, 2010-01-20 11:45 Axel Polleres axel.polle...@deri.org: reading the thread with interest. If I understand correctly most of these approaches Grit, RXR, etc only provide normalisation, which in my opinion is only ONE part of the story in making existing RDF data amenable to

Re: RDF, XML, XSLT: Grit

2010-01-20 Thread Axel Polleres
Fair enough then, different use case than I had in mind then, I'd say. I understand that you don't deal with big ammounts of native RDF data here, which was more what I had in mind. (IIRC your XSPARQL also uses the SPARQL Query Results format internally. ) Our current (native)

Re: RDF, XML, XSLT: Grit

2010-01-19 Thread Toby Inkster
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 23:32 +0100, Christoph LANGE wrote: … of that kind: I have successfully done some XSLT processing with RXR (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/RXR, http://www.dajobe.org/papers/xmleurope2004/). I found it very nice for XSLT processing, as there is exactly one way for

Re: RDF, XML, XSLT: Grit

2010-01-19 Thread Christoph LANGE
2010-01-19 20:04 Toby Inkster t...@g5n.co.uk: You may be interested in the RXR output plugin I wrote for ARC2 a few months ago: http://goddamn.co.uk/viewvc/demiblog-new/arc-patching/plugins/ I had already feared that RXR had been abandoned, so it's good to see that there are up-to-date

Re: RDF, XML, XSLT: Grit

2010-01-18 Thread Reto Bachmann-Gmuer
I'm wondering what the advantages of grit are when compared with simple subsets of RDF/XML than can be used for XSLT transformation, e.g. Morten's R3X [1]. Cheers, reto 1. http://www.wasab.dk/morten/blog/archives/2004/05/30/transforming-rdfxml-with-xslt (just to allow XSLT the special RSS 1.0

Re: RDF, XML, XSLT: Grit

2010-01-18 Thread Christoph LANGE
Hi Niklas, 2010-01-17 18:53 Niklas Lindström lindstr...@gmail.com: I made this primarily for using XSLT to produce (xhtml) documents from controlled sets of RDF, e.g. vocabularies and such. I've found it conventient enough to think that there may be general interest. My feedback will be … I

Re: RDF, XML, XSLT: Grit

2010-01-18 Thread Niklas Lindström
Hi Reto! I have looked at some RDF/XML-normalizers before, but in all honesty I haven't tested R3X-transform very extensively. I have taken some care in assuring that the Grit XSLT handles very raw RDF/XML -- in my case using the non-pretty serializer of Sesame (on a graph consisting of multiple

RDF, XML, XSLT: Grit

2010-01-17 Thread Niklas Lindström
Hi all! In light of the recent discussions about both using RDF in contexts where RDF awareness and availability of RDF tools are more limited, and in relation to the thoughts on RDF/XML (re-)emerging in the RDF 2.0 discussion thread [1], I find it timely to document and announce an instrumental