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2008-12-07 Thread Dwight Hines
Help me, I need to get digest version. How? Dwight Florida

Re: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Danny Ayers
2008/12/8 Marko A. Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Google does have a limit and it was hit the moment it was created. Google > (the search engine) doesn't solve all my problems---it only solves the > keyword index and rank problem. This is a very specific computation for a > very specific proble

Re: Re[4]: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Sw-MetaPortal-ProjectParadigm
--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Danny Ayers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Danny Ayers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re[4]: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Shavkat Karimov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Kingsley Idehen" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Re[2]: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Danny Ayers
2008/12/8 Sw-MetaPortal-ProjectParadigm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Dear Sir, > > If you mean by trolling (Wikipedia definition): Yes. > I must disagree. > > You seem to be upset by this Rainbow Warrior metaphor (an open license > metaphor courtesy of the Canadian Cree nation, not owned by Greenpeace

Re: Re[2]: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Sw-MetaPortal-ProjectParadigm
Dear Sir, If you mean by trolling (Wikipedia definition): An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of prov

Re: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
I tend to disagree on this " the scale of the data sets that currently exist and will ultimately grow to become, the "download and index" philosophy of the World Wide Web will not so easily map over to the Semantic Web." Does google have any visible limits? using the proper indexing technology f

Re: Re[4]: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Danny Ayers
Please expand on these bits (in the language of your choice) : > incidentally is what the joined project our organization with Ekolibrium > proposed for sustainable development worldwide, is all about. and > What is important not to overlook is the fact that ICT project funding for > non-pro

Re: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Danny Ayers
Abstract looks excellent, though personally I'd drop the hypens ('-'). Now to read a paper! 2008/12/8 Marko A. Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all, > > Here is a short column that I wrote that is in line with this thread of > thought: > > http://arxiv.org/abs/0807.3908 > > It addresses the im

Re: Re[4]: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Sw-MetaPortal-ProjectParadigm
Shavkat, The problem Google will still be facing that they will never have the resources to be everything to everybody and provide everything to everybody. And the beauty of e.g. open source software is that a start-up with adequate funding and user community support and backing can upset even

Re: Re[2]: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Danny Ayers
Sw-MetaPortal-ProjectParadigm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, sir, are you trolling? (Sw not SW - tsk tsk) 2008/12/7 Sw-MetaPortal-ProjectParadigm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Dear Shavkat, > > The subscription would not be for all the net but for parts of the internet > that are of particular interest to a spec

Re: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Sw-MetaPortal-ProjectParadigm wrote: Kinglsey, I would very much like to know what it will take to start up just such a federation. There are technical standards, legal issues of copyright and numerous others to explore. Federation post Web 2.0 will occur in the same fashion centralizatio

Re: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Danny Ayers
2008/12/7 Sw-MetaPortal-ProjectParadigm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The next Internet giant company will be linking open data and providing open > access to repositories, in the process seamlessly combining both paid for > subscriptions, Creative Commons or similar license based or open source > softwa

Re: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Shavkat Karimov wrote: I think people wouldn't pay any fees to search the web. I don't believe I said or implied they would. The FREEdom of the Internet is why it is so powerful. Nobody is disputing that. Also, while I agree with most other Milton's statements, this new Internet giant might

Re[4]: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Shavkat Karimov
Title: Re[4]: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories Yes, Milton, I agree on the paid part of the Net. However, on the future player, these big guys (Google, Yahoo, and some others) own the traffic and got the money needed to create such a 'federatio

Re: Re[2]: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Sw-MetaPortal-ProjectParadigm
Dear Shavkat, The subscription would not be for all the net but for parts of the internet that are of particular interest to a specific user, the comment was meant to indicate an analogy to what already exists now, online excerpt databases for professional journals. For example in my case I wo

Re: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Sw-MetaPortal-ProjectParadigm
Kinglsey, I would very much like to know what it will take to start up just such a federation. There are technical standards, legal issues of copyright and numerous others to explore. How do we go about designing a framework for the federation, i.e. a defining framework document and the requi

Re[2]: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Shavkat Karimov
I think people wouldn't pay any fees to search the web. The FREEdom of the Internet is why it is so powerful. Also, while I agree with most other Milton's statements, this new Internet giant might still be Google, since they are already going to this direction in many ways. Thanks for the insightf

Re: The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Sw-MetaPortal-ProjectParadigm wrote: The next Internet giant company will be linking open data and providing open access to repositories, in the process seamlessly combining both paid for subscriptions, Creative Commons or similar license based or open source software schemes. Revenues will

Re: Potential Home for LOD Data Sets - is it Open?

2008-12-07 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Hugh Glaser wrote: Thanks Kingsley. Getting there, I think/hope. So exactly what is the URI? I run something like select * where { ?s ?p "ZNF492" } and get back things like http://purl.org/commons/record/ncbi_gene/57615, but these are not URIs in the Amazon cloud, and so if that is where I

The next Internet giant: linking open data, providing open access to repositories

2008-12-07 Thread Sw-MetaPortal-ProjectParadigm
The next Internet giant company will be linking open data and providing open access to repositories, in the process seamlessly combining both paid for subscriptions, Creative Commons or similar license based or open source software schemes. Revenues will be generated among other things from onl